OT: GoT S8 E3
Well, this is the episode everyone will be talking about for years to come. Battle scenes took months to shoot, leading to most likely the death of many characters that are either hated and beloved.
Anyone have any good theories of what will go down? I think the dead Starks are going to be raised by the NK, only to fight for the good guys.
I'm more excited for 'Barry'. Greatest show on TV right now.
Is that good? I've been looking for a new show to start.
Bosch is good. Very good.
Bosch is great!
Respectfully disagree. Bosch felt like a cheesy cop show to me.
Barry is fantastic though
Willing to bet that you haven’t watched many episodes of Bosch or you just hate cop shows. Hating cliche cop shows is acceptable. Judging Bosch after not watching it is not.
Billions is my favorite show on right now. Just cant get into GOT.
I love Billions also, but I also like GOT and Bosch. People realize it's ok to watch and like multiple shows at once. I tried watching Barry the 1st season but I only watched 2 shows. I have to give it another go.
We just binge-watched season 5 and are now bummed we have to wait until 2020 for season 6.
It’s worth watching, but calling it the best show on now is extreme.
I'm watching Killing Eve on BBC America and Amazon. Recommend it highly.
Highly recommend
Henry Winkler deserves all of the awards.
Yeah, you already posted that earlier today
Bill Hader does an outstanding job! His acting skills are way better than I would have thought, what with him coming out of sketch comedy on SNL. But he keeps that comedic edge while being a serious actor. Very happy with the show, only wish it were an hour long instead of 30 minutes.
Couldn't get into Barry. Tried during the first season. I am more into Veep than Barry.
WHAT!?
My sense is that nearly everyone will die and the Night King will march on to Cersei. I suspect the survivors will end up widely scattered and scarce. For plot reasons, I expect them to include J-Snow, Bran, the Hound. I honestly foresee everyone else in Winterfell dying. I could go either way on Sam, Tyrion, the dragons, Dany, Sansa, and Arya. But my guess for them is doom.
I'm also at a weird conflict for what I want to happen. I really hate the idea that the final scene of the season might have the Night King sit on the iron throne. But I also think a Winterfell victory tonight is so improbable that anything outside the range of Pyrrhic victory to outright slaughter will also be disappointing.
Dragonglass kills the walkers, so make a wedge of dragonglass wielding unsullied and drive forward to the night king. It’s simple, really.
If he tries to flee on his dragon, the good guys have 2 of those.
My guess is they take a pyrhhic victory at Winterfell but the NIght King flies to King's Landing and takes the "million souls" that occupy the city. Plus the 20k Golden Company. My only hitch here is I can't see Cersei dying without Jamie there to see it.
There are three more episodes after this. So the good guys can not win tonight. I believe the survivors (which may or may not include Jon but will include Daenerys, Jamie, Tyrion, Arya, Bran and Sansa) barely escape to refuge in the Iron Islands. I mean, what's the point of the Yara arc this season if not for that? So, most of the major characters survive to fight another day. A whole bunch of second level characters die tonight. But not Bronn, he will live forever.
I also believe Sansa will eventually save Daenerys' bacon against Cersei and help her claim the Iron Throne. In exchange, Sansa is recognized as Queen of the North and not required to bend the knee.
Three more, after this. Six total this season.
Corrected. Thanks.
I think there are scenarios where the “good guys” can win the battle of Winterfell. There are a lot of layers to the show. For all we know this episode is to “get the dead out of the way” and settle the throne issues after that.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^
Boom!
April 28th, 2019 at 11:33 PM ^
Sorry, didn't even cross my mind as a spoiler.
Goddamit. I'd successfully spent the full weekend avoiding anything to do with Endgame. Coming off of my last midnight shift, with tickets in hand to see it at 2pm today... and then here you are, in the GoT thread.
Cute Stark joke though...
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I think the same way as what Robbie mentioned, but have a big question about the Mountain.
Is he dead? If he is dead, could he be controlled by the night king?
If he is not dead, but does not seem to feel pain, could he be one of the people who help the good guys win?
I could see the Hound giving the Mountain a dragon glass weapon and the two of them finally fight together allowing the others to escape.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:16 PM ^
None of the above predictions aged well.
Good episode though. They did well building the tension, but I really wanted to see more deaths.
Arya killing the Night King was cool, but now the show ends with a battle against Cersi for the Iron Throne.
Which is anticlimactic as hell.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:35 PM ^
Here is how the episode should have ended:
With 20 minutes left, Arya gets to Bran and informs him winter has come and death is at the door. Bran says "what do we say when death is at our door" and they both smile at each other. Bran then says "I need you to do something for me."
Then, at the end of episode, when the Night King is about to kill Bran, he stands up and sticks the knife in the Night King's gut and instantly kills him. When the camera zooms in on Bran, he removes his face and its Arya except she is very sad. The camera pans out and next to tree you see Bran in a pool of blood as Arya killed him at his request so they could win the battle.
There I fixed it.
April 29th, 2019 at 12:10 AM ^
Not bad, but the night king would have sensed if the three eyed raven had died.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Arya
April 30th, 2019 at 10:41 AM ^
My prediction aged great!
April 29th, 2019 at 12:38 AM ^
This post didn’t age well
Need some honest opinions. I tapped out of GOT after two seasons. Is it worth revisiting if the first two seasons didn’t capture my fandom?
Long answer, yes.
Yes. As far as TV shows go, it's probably one of the better things out there.
Yes, it gets better the more time you spend on it. The first 1-2 seasons were boring to me as well but I now consider the show the best show I've ever watched. You wont regret it by any means.
I will typically give a series a chance to find its footing hoping that the writers can develop and find characters. Willing to exercise some patience if I think there are some interesting characters or an idea to be explored. Was a Breaking Bad fan from season 1 based on the idea of a science teacher turned Meth manufacturer because of cancer. GOT after two seasons just seemed like directionless nonsense with bewbs after a few seasons.
Season 2-4 are excellent in most every way, IMO. After that it gets wrapped up in meta bullshit, and sort of loses its way. Again, my opinion. I still watch it, but the books are far and away better than the show.
April 28th, 2019 at 10:43 PM ^
Books 1-3 were excellent. Books 4 and (especially) 5 weren't all that good.
This is an interesting take given that this wasn't like the normal television series that works on year-to-year contracts hoping to develop and find characters and get renewed (which often leads to shifting the focus and premise dramatically as it goes on).
This was an adaptation of an already written epic masterpiece for which the character arcs had already been known and for which their complex development was already done (and tested in book form).
It was the exact opposite of directionless (certainly in the first two seasons - the show writers struggled a little adapting one of the storylines but that didn't come into play until later). The entire story had already been written and everything that was done was purposeful and intentional.
Because the show played the long game, the development of characters was long and complex: the relationship between a brilliant and witty dwarf and his powerful family, the development of a young immature girl into a ruling queen (make that two young immature girls into rulers), the growth of a young sheltered girl into an absolute assassin by will and necessity, the struggle between good and evil and the idea that you can't be one or the other - there are always tradeoffs to be made.
I get that it's not for everyone. With a huge ensemble cast, the acting wasn't stellar from top to bottom (I thought Emilia and Kit have just been ok), although it was very good overall (Nicolai, Lena, Charles Dance, Peter Dinklage, Liam Cunningham, etc have been outstanding). You also get a lot of jumping around to develop the entire story rather than a lot of intimate time with your favorite characters so that's not going to be for everyone.
As others have mentioned, if you didn't like the first two seasons, I don't know why you'd like the rest of the series although season 6 and 7 have largely become Hollywood comic book style action shows with big battles, dragons, zombies and plenty of improbable dues ex machina last minute salvations when everything looked bleak (as opposed to the first five seasons of character development).
Eh doubtful. If you watched two seasons, and it did little for you..it's probably fair to say it doesn't interest you. It's a "tits&dragons" mix of soap opera, historical drama and fantasy fiction..which all was in the first two seasons as well. I personally stopped watching it years ago, but kinda kept an eye on how the plot progresses, and I can't say I feel much of a need to watch the seasons after I stopped watching...
Stopped watching, but still keep an eye on it. mm hmm. You must be the Varys of the mgocommunity, cards held close to the vest.
It has gotten worse every year but I guess I need to ride It out. Worst story line is the stupid dead army. Wish it would have just come down to fighting for the throne.
I kind of get it. Aside from Dinklage, the acting is very wooden, and the dialogue is very uneven. But it has a good atmosphere to it.
I never watched at the beginning because it just seemed like Dungeons and Dragons on screen, and then the only episode I caught was when they burned the girl alive at the stake, which, as a father of two young girls, was almost enough to make me throw up.
However, I figured that with it being off air for so long before this last season, they would have to do an extended recap, and now I feel basically up to speed (even if I don't have all the characters' names memorized).
So, in short, I would say it's worth tuning in to this final season, though there's probably no real reason to revisit any seasons you missed.
The thing is, the show has like half of the “main characters” it once did because a lot of them have died. Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister were two of the best characters of any show of all time. I could see that the cast and writing does not look incredibly impressive now, but trust me, GOT was cooking for a long time. I would go back and start it from the beginning.
Dinklage, Lena Headey and Nicolai Coster-Waldau are excellent. Headey is probably the best even. Charles Dance was excellent as Tywin. Liam Cunningham is great as Davos. Diana Rigg was amazing as Lady Olenna. I thought Alfie Allen was really convincing. Maisie Williams and Conleth Hill were pretty good.
But yeah, unfortunately the top two characters only had mediocre acting.
No. This is the most overrated “prestige” show ever. It’s a show for geeky 12 year old boys that adults for some reason watch. Same trend where grown-ups watch superhero movies. Just garbage.