OT: GoT S8 E3
Well, this is the episode everyone will be talking about for years to come. Battle scenes took months to shoot, leading to most likely the death of many characters that are either hated and beloved.
Anyone have any good theories of what will go down? I think the dead Starks are going to be raised by the NK, only to fight for the good guys.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:45 PM ^
I'm not really sure, but we saw one at the end, and it landed near Daenerys.
April 29th, 2019 at 12:08 AM ^
In the preview for the next episode, there's two dragons shown in a shot. I also don't think they'd let a dragon die offscreen.
Good. Jon is going to need that dragon to kill Dany before she can kill him.
Fire isn't going to kill Dany, but I'm not sure if it'll kill Jon. Also, I doubt a dragon would turn on Dany...
April 28th, 2019 at 10:42 PM ^
Whoever gave the Dothraki the order to charge should be fucking hanged the next episode, if they’re not dead already. My god that was so stupid of them to do. 40,000 men gone in a matter of 60 seconds.
Will be curious to see how the remaining survivors overthrow Cersei. Their army is completely decimated, Winterfell is in complete ruins, and they have to overtake 20,000 men of the Golden Company.
I’m betting Tyrion has one final plan up his sleeve. The one he’ll be remembered for.
April 28th, 2019 at 10:45 PM ^
"Will be curious to see how the remaining survivors overthrow Cersei."
A girl has skillz.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:07 PM ^
Are you forgetting the dragons?
And Arya?
April 28th, 2019 at 10:46 PM ^
Not impressed. Directing and cinematography was great but to make it end like that is pure deus ex machina garbage.
Nobody if consequence died. No closure
April 28th, 2019 at 11:02 PM ^
It’s not over yet guy.
April 29th, 2019 at 12:45 AM ^
It is for me, sister. Look, I ain't in this for your revolution, and I'm not in it for you, Princess. I expect to be well paid. I'm in it for the money.
Jon Snow blows up the death star. The end.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^
Lady Mormont told me to tell you that she sacrificed her self to kill a zombie giant, and that you are a dick.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
Frodo cast The Ring into the fires of Mount Doom!!!!
April 28th, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
You must be a really fun person.
Eats perfectly cooked steak
/MEH! I could have cooked this at home for 1/5 the price
sees Mona Lisa
/MEH. It’s so small. I don’t get the allure.
Vacation to Maui.
Not impressed. There is sand in my shoes
April 28th, 2019 at 11:24 PM ^
Or your the guy who says if you don’t like what I like it it’s a you problem. Get over yourself dude. I thought it sucked. You liked it big whoop we have differing opinions. You’ll live.
If you like game of thrones to this point and thought last night “sucked” then yes it is a 100% you problem
April 29th, 2019 at 10:13 AM ^
I have loved Game of Thrones to this point but I have a lot of issues with last nights episode.
April 28th, 2019 at 10:59 PM ^
Melisandre already knew Arya would kill the Night King. Arya and Lady Mormont are the heroes of the Battle of Winterfell!!
Then why didn't she just say so? Whatever...
She didn't know. But she knew that she would either die by White Walker or die the way she did (i.e. if the NK was killed, her purpose would have been served). That's why she knew she wouldn't survive the night.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:05 PM ^
That was, for my money, the greatest moment in the history of television.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:13 PM ^
Oh, and:
HOLY SHIT.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:32 PM ^
I found tonight's episode to be quite tedious.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:41 PM ^
For a second, I thought she dropped that dagger to Brann and he killed the Night King.
Well I guess he won't be posting on this board anymore.
April 28th, 2019 at 11:50 PM ^
Damn.. my buzz is wearing off, and I just realized that the Dothraki are pretty much extinct.
April 29th, 2019 at 12:54 AM ^
Im sure there's many rogue Dothraki warrior tribes that werent there when Dany took over and considering they fuck like rabbits they'll be fine
April 29th, 2019 at 10:14 AM ^
The Dothraki charge was stupid.
April 29th, 2019 at 11:30 AM ^
True, but it made for a cool visual and a chilling moment to see the lights all go out and it showed the characters how truly terrifying the army of the dead was so I'm okay with it.
April 29th, 2019 at 11:37 AM ^
This is the conundrum that a lot of movies/shows seem to struggle with these days: How do we show a cool thing that actually makes sense.
I agree, that was an awesome visual, it was chilling in that the Dothraki were built up as an incredible force among the living and were snuffed out immediately but...nothing about it made sense when you thought about it for two seconds.
Well the Dothraki wouldn't have had a place in Westeros anyways. So the writers had to figure a way to wipe them all out. Personally I would rather them get snuffed out in a charge on the Army of the dead than get caught in some silly trap by Cersei.
Yeah, it was an absurd tactic and was done simply for the visual and narrative effect. That is the challenge with balancing plausibility with narration.
I was fine with it because that was going to be a bloodbath regardless of Winterfell's actual battle tactics. The only way Winterfell was going to prevail was a stealth and surgical hit on the Night King so I'm not going to be overly critical about the actual tactics leading up that.
April 29th, 2019 at 12:09 AM ^
DAMN!
April 29th, 2019 at 12:54 AM ^
Yara about to show up with the Second Sons....
April 29th, 2019 at 12:56 AM ^
I forgot about them but that's still NOTHING compared to Cerseis army
She has the Lannister troops, her banners, and the Golden Company which is tens of thousands of men. Second sons were only like 2-3 thousand if I remember correctly
It doesn't matter though. The Onion Knight is going to smuggle Arya into Kings landing and bribe some dumbass guards again
But the way GoT timelines work, Daario’s recruited 50,000 strong, and Yara’s built 300 new ships.
Yeah, I don’t know. I could see Tyrion coming up with a plan/plot to take out Cersei, maybe Arya puts on a face, perhaps some dragon fire or wait, they sign a truce and everyone lives in peace and harmony.
Say what you will about the general detioration of the quality of this show, but Game of Thrones plays the long game better than probably everyone.
Arya as the Prince who was Promised, in hindsight, was vaguely hinted at since the very first episode. Her is-she-a-girl-or-a-boy thing overlaps with the gender neutrality of the legendary prince/princess really well. It was just given to us in only oblique hints spread across several seasons, so not easy to put together.
The Melisandre and Arya parts of this episode, though, were about it's only redeeming qualities. The rest gave off a feeling of pointless mass carnage that not only could have been avoided by decent planning, but also painfully respected every shred of plot armor the show has built since season 5. How are we supposed to believe that all these people survived for any reason other than they are main characters with a contract?
That and the fact their battle plan was awful. No decent military commander would waste the Dothraki like that. They would have been out of site waiting to hit the flanks of the undead.
The fire trench should have been further out, and they should have made more than one.
Dragons could have been used far more effectively, especially at the beginning. Why not have them engage the dead first instead of the Dothraki?
Your last question was at least answered in the previous episode. Jon and Dany made the plan to wait for the NK near Bran. It was certainly a dumb plan, and didn't require both dragons. Why not have one lie in the "weeds" near Bran while the other wreaks havoc? But at least they talked about and revealed their rationale for that plan.
In any case, they abandoned that plan very quickly anyway so then it just goes back to how dumb the Dothraki charge was. And that was dumb, but done for the visual.
They had a limited amount of time to prepare and cold ground so it's reasonable to think they couldn't dig more than one trench.
Arya isn't the Prince That Was Promised. She meets none of the criteria of the prophecy. That means that the Night King was a symptom, not cause, of the Long Night to come. That's why they could off the NK with 3 episodes to go. My guess is that Bran/Greenseers in general is/are the real cause, and we'll find out next episode.
Maybe Dani kills Bran to save everyone and Jon has to execute her for it because no one believes her when she proves to be the PTWP?
I told myself I was going to suck it up and finish the series but I don't know if I can at this point. 80% of the episode was pointless with some really cheesy deaths (Lady Mormont and Theon). I'm also so fucking sick of the 1,000 vs 1 battles that the writers love so much now. Ugh.
I'm going to sleep on it but I thought this was the worst episode of the series. Arya as NK killer was good but:
- Episode-long battle was incredibly tedious
- Characters acted so incredibly dumb
- Dothraki charge
- All characters apparently unaware Night King brings dead to life (going to the crypts, bringing in/ignoring the dead and dying and acting surprised when they arise)
- The "trap" for the NK didn't really have an actual tactical trap plan (like maybe put Arya or some archers in the tree?)
- Night King's general lethargy and zombies not protecting him at the end
- Black levels and digital compression made the damn thing near unwatchable and not just for me according to Twitter
How much did that shit cost?!
What show have you been watching for damn near a decade if you expected people to act intelligently?
I feel like people put some narrative in their own minds of how this should all end and are bothered that their made up version didn’t come to fruition
I agree! Arya was in the tree when she jumped down! Where the hell else would she have been? Flying in from a 200' long jump? JFC!! The plan was to get the NK with a dragon - and Dany did. People watched with their own agendas...
I'm going to rewatch, but I don't think she was in the tree. She came up quickly from behind the WW and Knight King. It didn't look like she dropped straight down.
April 29th, 2019 at 11:19 AM ^
My agenda was "I hope this episode rules" last night. I'm a fan! I'd much rather enjoy the damn thing.
It's funny to me how fans who are disappointed in GoT get dismissed like that. What's our agenda? Bringing down the show with disappointed comments on sports blogs?
April 29th, 2019 at 11:09 AM ^
I expect them to act like they know the Night King raises the dead! I don't need geniuses here but that doesn't seem like a lot to ask.
April 29th, 2019 at 11:52 AM ^
This has been an issue with Star Wars for 20 years.
Yeah the picture quality through Comcast for me was awful. People trying to claim it's because people have bad TV's or aren't calibrated properly, but that is BS. Have a high end 4k model that is well calibrated and me and my wife could not tell what was happening half the time. Just compression artifacts and banding all over the dark parts of the screen.
Considering I couldn’t see a damn thing at first (seems to be a common theme) and there was so much silence and build up, I thought for a split second the Dead had marched south and the Night King was going to fry King’s Landing, before returning for Bran.
I’m still confused why we saw foreshadowing of snow falling on the Iron Throne (twice). Unless winter is still coming for House Cersei...