OT - Good luck to any parents waiting on Michigan EA decisions that are expected to drop today

Submitted by Fielding Yost on January 26th, 2024 at 9:25 AM

My daughter's a sophomore at Michigan, and my son's hoping for good news today. Sending positive vibes to all the other kids out there waiting to hear back too. Fingers crossed for those acceptance letters!

Go Blue!

WindyCityBlue

January 26th, 2024 at 11:15 AM ^

About half my high school went to UofI.  Several of my best friends are alums.  IMO, the tie that binds people to school pride is driven through success is sports.  UofI is a great academic institution, but has had very little success with sports.  That is why you'll see a lot more ND pride in Chicago than Illinois or Northwestern.

DakotaBlue

January 26th, 2024 at 10:08 AM ^

Am crossing fingers for my youngest kid, hoping we get good news later today.

Middle kid is a junior right now, so Michigan has never lost to OSU while he's been a student!

Edit: was accepted!

Amazinblu

January 26th, 2024 at 10:21 AM ^

My son (who is a junior at Michigan today) began watching and attending Michigan games when he was five years old.   So - though his youth had some great nights - such as the UTL games - he also "caught a lot of flak" for his Michigan fandom during the RR and Hoke years.   

He enrolled in Michigan in the fall of '21 - and, to say the least - he's enjoyed following the Maize & Blue since.   He was on the field after the '21 win over Ohio State - been to B1G CCGs in Indy - and, was at the Rose Bowl.

Hopefully - your middle child - and mine, are "good luck charms" for the Maize & Blue.

Perhaps we should consider having them follow up their undergraduate times with an application to grad school!

Go Blue!

DakotaBlue

January 26th, 2024 at 12:18 PM ^

Same here. For my middle kid, Michigan football was mostly a long dry spell of never winning the big games. He never really got into it.

But, being a student has changed all that. He was out there with your son on the field after the '21 OSU game. He's been totally hooked ever since. 

Let's get these guys into Ph.D. programs that require a very long time to degree! Keep the wins coming.

Amazinblu

January 26th, 2024 at 1:07 PM ^

My son's lining up - and about to accept - his internship for this summer.   

Graduate school is definitely in my son's future - but, it might not be a PhD program - though, that's an interesting thought.   As for my daughter - graduate school again, is not a question - the location / acceptance is - as well as the likelihood of a gap year for her.

Go Blue!

GoBlue96

January 26th, 2024 at 10:15 AM ^

Good luck.  My first two kids has a little too much fun in high school so no anxiety on potentially getting admitted.  I have one left that still has potential but she's only 7...

Ray

January 26th, 2024 at 10:19 AM ^

Good luck to all of you have prospective Wolverines waiting.  My daughter's acceptance was certainly a great moment.  

We were out of state and my daughter applied to a number of different schools and the others did not stop recruiting.  After her acceptance my daughter continued to get phone calls, emails, letters from current students telling her how great their experience was and how wonderful she'd find it at their school.  So be ready for the hard sell, especially as enrollment deadlines approach.  

M-Dog

January 26th, 2024 at 12:29 PM ^

College admissions is such a weird dichotomy. 

You have students falling all over themselves to try to get admitted to a small group of supposedly "elite" schools, while you have a large number of incredible schools falling all over themselves trying to get strong students to enroll.

We are going through this right now with my daughter.  It is very strange to be stalked, Taylor Swift-style, by colleges who really want you, while simultaneously being outright disdained by colleges that think they are above everybody.

It gets in the kids' heads.  They start to take the schools that want them for granted, and obsess over the schools that defer or push them off.   

The best statement I ever heard on this topic is this:

Your college decision is a match to be made, not a trophy to be won.

I laugh my ass off at kids that apply to both Cornell and Columbia just so they can say they got into the Ivy League.  Those schools could not be more different.  If you think one of them is a great match for you, then the other one clearly is not.

olm_go_blue

January 26th, 2024 at 1:59 PM ^

I get your points, but it's a bit much to "laugh your ass off" at kids trying to get an elite education. I'm not aware of this particular difference in schools, but same could be said for someone applying to Harvard and Stanford. Maybe they like both, and could succeed at either? Maybe they prefer one, but are improving there chances by applying to both. I'm sure you realize the diaspora that is the UM student body, it's not a one size/vibe fits all. 

Finding a college isn't like finding a spouse, there are venn diagrams of overlap and I won't besmirch anyone's decision, especially when it sets them up for success like an ivy would. 

Nickel

January 26th, 2024 at 10:37 AM ^

Good luck to all of you waiting for a family member this afternoon!

I feel sheepish admitting this, but I don't remember anything special about getting my acceptance letter (started Fall of '97 so I guess admission letter would have come in fall of '96 or winter of '97?). Couldn't tell you the date I got it, couldn't tell you my reaction. I was in-state, an engineering type and Michigan was just where I always wanted to go and assumed I'd go (parents were MSU grads so no help there).

Davy Found

January 26th, 2024 at 11:01 AM ^

Yeah, in my days (early 90s), if you were in-state, had decent grades and test scores, you were almost a shoo-in. I remember being happy I got in, but it wasn't a dramatic moment. 

FWIW, my friends who didn't get in all went to WCC for 1 - 2 years and then transferred in. Different era, perhaps...

Good luck to all those parents out there! My 5 year old son insists he's going to Michigan, so I'll be going through this in 12 years!

ShadowStorm33

January 26th, 2024 at 11:02 AM ^

I feel sheepish admitting this, but I don't remember anything special about getting my acceptance letter (started Fall of '97 so I guess admission letter would have come in fall of '96 or winter of '97?). Couldn't tell you the date I got it, couldn't tell you my reaction. I was in-state, an engineering type and Michigan was just where I always wanted to go and assumed I'd go (parents were MSU grads so no help there).

Yeah, I'm jealous of everyone who had that excitement when they got in. Don't get me wrong, I grew up absolutely loving U of M and Ann Arbor, and I bled maize and blue from a young age, having gone to football games since before I can remember. But my dad was adamant that I go to an Ivy, so after years of him trying to steer me in that direction, by my senior year of high school that was really what I had set my sights on. (And I'm sure it didn't help, from an excitement standpoint, that I never had any real doubts about getting into U of M; I feel kind of bad saying it, but I kind of felt a safety school vibe). So yeah, I don't remember when I got my acceptance (sometime in the spring maybe, since I'm not sure I even applied until November or December), and I'm sure my reaction was fairly ho-hum since I fully expected to get in. Well, I struck out on the Ivies I applied to, so Michigan it was, and looking back, it was the best thing that could have happened to me. Since I was in-state, I got an amazing education for a fraction of what an Ivy would have cost. I would have graduated with well over $200k in debt had I gone to an Ivy, and I ended up in the same place anyway (U of M's law school, with a ton of Ivy League-undergrad classmates).

But I do vividly remember when my sister got into U of M off the deferred list a number of years later. She called me screaming so hysterically I thought someone had died, my aunt sent her maize and blue dyed roses, etc. That was pretty special. And I did have a joyous moment of my own when I got into M's law school, so I can't complain.

bsand2053

January 26th, 2024 at 10:50 AM ^

Best of luck to your son and all the other applicants!

 

I’m a little confused why this is “early” though.  I was accepted in Sept/Oct of my senior year though that was back in 05.  What’s changed?  

1989 UM GRAD

January 26th, 2024 at 10:53 AM ^

Admissions to many selective colleges are no longer done on a rolling basis.

Admission decisions come out on a particular date.  Used to be just before Christmas.  That's when our son (2023 UM Grad) got his acceptance notice.

Due to the pandemic and the increase in applicants, it was moved to the last Friday of January in 2021 and has remained there.  Michigan also has a round of admissions that get announced the last Friday of February and the last Friday of March.  

Amazinblu

January 26th, 2024 at 10:55 AM ^

Over the past twenty years - the college admissions process has changed quite a bit.

Without getting into significant details - "rolling admissions" are offered by a number of schools - but, I don't believe Michigan does that.   So - you'll see most schools offer - "EA" which is Early Action and with either "accept, decline, or defer".   "ED" which is Early Decision and commits an applicant to that school if they are accepted.   And, Regular Decision - this is usually later in the Spring.

Michigan's not an easy school to get in to these days - especially, if you're an out of state student.

Go Blue!

M-Dog

January 26th, 2024 at 11:42 AM ^

Yep, this exactly.  You got what you got, and you competed on that.  

No Common App either.  Every single school had its own completely unique application, that you had to hand type on paper forms. 

Some of those forms had light colored backgrounds, so you couldn't use white out if you made a mistake (cruel bastards).  So you wrote your essays off the the side and then typed them in very slowly, letter by letter, so that there would be no errors.    

Mattinboots

January 26th, 2024 at 11:05 AM ^

Does anyone know if it’s “easier” to get admitted by transferring in from another good/very good school but that’s not quite on Michigan’s level?  That happened to be my route back in the early aughts and I was told acceptance rates for transfers is substantially higher. 

Yostal

January 26th, 2024 at 2:03 PM ^

A friend mentioned to me that it is easier to get into certain schools at U-M (non LS&A) from WCC than it is to transfer between units (because units don't like losing their own numbers.)  So if you know you want to be Public Health or Natural Resources, etc, it can sometimes be a very viable plan B.

drjaws

January 26th, 2024 at 11:13 AM ^

I would have never gotten into Michigan, despite both parents being employed by the school.

I barely graduated HS (2.3 GPA) because I played travel hockey and often missed a lot of school due to tournaments in Toronto, Minneapolis, etc.

Moved to Canada to play juniors before my senior year and didn’t go to school there. Got my HS diploma from a HS I have never seen by attending “adult education classes” and promptly worked construction for a couple years before deciding to go back to school. Got accepted to a small IU satellite campus (they accepted everyone who could pay)

worked out well as I went to Berkeley for PhD program though (Roll on you Bears)

Amazinblu

January 26th, 2024 at 1:13 PM ^

What a great path - journey you've taken.

I have a question - and, it's a bit "Cal" specific.   The ACC released it's schedule for this year - and, it appears (what I always felt was a protected rivalry) the Cal v Stanford game no longer ends the season.

For Cal - it looks like their "end of season, protected rivalry" will be against SMU.

Do you have any thoughts about that?    Personally, I think it's a travesty - Cal v Stanford represented so much of what collegiate athletics, competition, tradition, etc. - is all about.

olm_go_blue

January 26th, 2024 at 11:22 AM ^

UM was the only undergrad school I applied to, which in hindsight, was quite risky. My parents didn't know much about admissions/applications, even though I had some extended family at UM (and grew up a huge fan). I wrote my essay on the way back from a Michigan game with my dad, which I came across recently when my parents gave me a box of papers (it wasn't good lol).

I was so excited when I got accepted, and I called my dad at work. He was so excited, he literally didn't believe me until I read it. He asked if he could tell me grandpa and uncle, and I obliged. My uncle later told me my dad had tears in his eyes he was so proud. Great memory.

WindyCityBlue

January 26th, 2024 at 11:23 AM ^

Good luck to everyone!

I'll add my admittance experience.  Humblebrag incoming: I was a model student at one of the largest and highest ranked schools in Cook County in the mid 90s. I think I graduated number 9 in my class out of about 1000 students, scored well on ACT/SAT, etc etc.  I got into NW and UofI with a very minor scholarship (IIRC, I got $5k/year applied to tuition), but I got wait listed at Michigan. WTF!  I finally got in about 1 week before high school graduation.

enlightenedbum

January 26th, 2024 at 11:35 AM ^

It makes me laugh that I'm way more nervous for my students than I was for myself back in the day.  I only applied to Michigan and got in (I was a bit cocky as a high schooler).

Pioneer sends ~100/year so should get lots of good news for them.

MgoBAFERD

January 26th, 2024 at 11:38 AM ^

My youngest is awaiting the news today.  She texted me that she's so nervous she can't eat.  I feel terrible for these kids to have so much pressure to get in.  I am an alumnus, 2 uncles and all three of her siblings have attended or are current students at UofM.  She's been so nervous all year she has refused to get her hopes up and even visit her siblings at football games.  Any positive thoughts would be greatly appreciated and needed.  Go blue!  Good luck to all

Update: i  now have 4 wolverines!  Lfg. Go Blue

Amazinblu

January 26th, 2024 at 1:19 PM ^

"I'd go back in a heartbeat."

Wendy - as our children were growing up - with their sports and activities - there wasn't much of an opportunity to get back to Ann Arbor for games / visits, etc.

Since my kids were admitted - we tailgate about five times a season (though this year's schedule has a lot of games that are incredibly attractive - but five consecutive home games to start the season won't be manageable).

After the Rose Bowl - my son asked me if I could join him and "his crew" for the NC game.  Of course, I said yes - and, enjoyed a fun filled evening at Scorekeepers.  It was a memorable evening.

So - if you want to go back for a Game Day - you & yours are welcome to join us for pre / post game tailgating this fall.   Go Blue!

GPCharles

January 26th, 2024 at 11:42 AM ^

Best of luck to all awaiting the word.  W and I are M grads but could never get a child to apply.

Three children - 

S1 - Michigan directional school

D1 - Ivy League EA

S2 - Service Academy - acceptance to school + congressional nomination

Big day when the positive letter for each appeared. 

JFW

January 26th, 2024 at 11:53 AM ^

Seriously. My daughter and her friends are *way* too stressed out over this. 

I do feel bad for her. She's got above a 4 point and a ton of extra curriculars. She's tried to point her CV to UM. But it's so uncertain. 

I'm a graduate from '96 but no way UM even looks at '91 JFW today. 

yigit

January 26th, 2024 at 11:58 AM ^

I'm still mad at my mom for giving me a sad face when she handed me the envelope even though it was an acceptance.  That was 31 years ago.

Lordfoul

January 26th, 2024 at 12:04 PM ^

Thanks for the heads up!  My son is EA applied and is with his mother currently, so I'll be sure to check in with him.  He got a 1590 on his SAT (perfect 800 in math - end humblebrag) so I hope it is only a formality.  He did get deferred at his top choice (MIT).

Update: He is in!  Woooot!!!

 

 

lmgoblue1

January 26th, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^

Yeah. I didn't get mine until April. I had MSU staring me in the face along with WMU and CMU all having accepted about now.  Thank God I waited to the bitter end. Sorry for lowering the curve but I enjoyed my time at Michigan and have a degree to prove it. Plus I got an extra year out of it LOL.

 

Go Blue and good luck to all would-be Wolverines!

Hab

January 26th, 2024 at 2:20 PM ^

How much of this is a function of the adoption of the common college app, which makes applying to multiple schools far less work than it ever was?  Sure, some components are unique to each school, but the effort required to apply to, say, 10-15 schools today versus before, where you would apply to maybe 5-6. seems significantly reduced.