OT: Dune Part 2(no spoilers)

Yeah, that singing (I use the term loosely) is easily the least enjoyable part of the movie.  the woman is apparently getting speared with a hockey stick. Assuming he is a Sparty.  crosschecking her in the neck or something like that.

I’ll concur…I’m as big a sci fi fan there is. I wanted to like Dune so much, but didn’t last past the opening 30-45 min and couldn’t finish.
 

Blade Runner original and 2049 might make my top 10 list 🤷‍♂️ 

Its depth of the plot and the detail that went into the world-building is what made the Dune books so beloved by its fans.

Its basically a sci-fi epic with the plot depth of Game of Thrones and the detailed world-bulding of Lord of the Rings. 

I also prefer the 1984 version, as flawed as it is.

Not the only person. Overall I found it more impactful than 2021. In the Lynch film I cared about the characters much more, ironically even though Villeneuve spent more time character building on Caladan. Lynch showed a warmth the Atreides had with each other that was lacking in the newer one, in which they were cold and austere. That much is in-character for the Atreides outwardly, but they are not supposed to be like that with each other. Not simply as a matter of integrity to the source material, but for making a film with characters people give a damn about. Their dull austerity was surpassed only by the Harkonnens, who are characteristically more flamboyant and exuberant in their villainy; theirs was a very striking change of character and the simplifying, muting effect is palpable.

The fact that both the noble families we spend the most time with were basically the same — cold, severe, aesthetically minimalist (really, pretty much all the characters are depicted thusly) — just creates a dull impression from the film. Very little emotional engagement with the audience, which was exacerbated by its hasty pacing and IMO over-emphasis on action sequences. And given that these are galactic aristocracy, with worlds of wealth at their disposal, the fact that they aren’t more ostentatious does not compute. The film was very much playing to the stylistic sensibility of early 21st century middle class Americans with their love of bland “modern farmhouse” aesthetic while depicting what should be an extravagant spacefaring feudal society, and as such disrupts one’s suspension of disbelief, I vouch. 

That said, Dune 2021 is visually a very impressive film and some of the acting was excellent (with some uninspiring acting as well). And the ornithopters are freaking sweet. Also a cool soundtrack from Hans Zimmer. Overall entertaining, worth a watch for fans of sci fi or epic films in general, and I certainly plan to see part 2 in theaters. But I think Lynch did a better job with character development and creating emotional impact.

Nope, I thoroughly enjoyed the 1984 version. But I'm not a movie-analyzer-then-critique type. Do I enjoy a movie? Yes? Then I consider it good. And I enjoyed the 1984 version.

I read the first two, maybe three, books and it's just too much world-building for me. It took me a long time to get through the GoT books, and I DNF the Wheel of Time series. Just too ponderous. 

I'm a huge fan of the books and enjoyed Part 1, but my takeaway from that was, "These planet leaders are really spending a lot in resources just to have 10,000 people stand in formation to watch a spaceship land." You'd think that maybe if they were a little more thrifty they wouldn't have to go to war over spice.  

I agree, but its not looking good.  I just read that the main audience that movies used to attract (people under 18 years old) have a hard time identifying movie stars.  However, they have no problem identifying YouTube stars. 

Cool.  Let me know how Christian Bale performs.  I'd be curious if he still has his mojo.