OT: Best steakhouse in Michigan

Submitted by duffman is thr… on January 20th, 2022 at 11:01 PM

I took my father out to a nice dinner at Bowdie’s Chophouse in downtown Lansing. I’ve known about this place for awhile now. My family knew the owners of the former establishment The Night Cap. The food here was phenomenal. I have to be honest and say I’ve never had a steak that good in my life. I ordered the filet mignon, and I understand that amongst foodie types they would probably prefer a tomahawk ribeye or a porterhouse or something of the like but filet is my preference. Anyways, this was the best steak I’ve ever had and the waitstaff was excellent. It’s a very small setting but that doesn’t bother me. This had me wondering where else in Michigan can I try and get a meal like this? Particularly the steak. Also have any of my fellow Mgo patrons ever been here? It’s a bit pricey  and the menu is fully A la carte, which is kind of nice to not be forced to have a specific side with your meal. 

TheKoolAidGuy

January 20th, 2022 at 11:11 PM ^

Moved to CO (from SW OH) recently and have been trying the ones they have to offer out here. Been to Guard and Grace thus far, with a reservation at Urban Farmer this weekend. A5 is also on the list.

Ohio is a tossup between Jeff Ruby’s and The Precinct (also owned by the Jeff Ruby Restaurant Group). Both are in Cincinnati. The Pine Club in Dayton is also very good.

Also, who can go wrong at St Elmo’s in Indy? I’ll hang up and listen 

 

kookie

January 20th, 2022 at 11:34 PM ^

I'm not a fan of A5. It is just too much. I can handle one little strip (1/3") but that is all.

However, the waygu crossbreds from the US are great.

A tip on St. Elmos is if you can't get in or don't want to get too fancy go to Harry and Izzy's. Same exact food (the downtown location shares a kitchen). And make sure you get the shrimp cocktail.

JMo

January 21st, 2022 at 8:36 AM ^

With apologies to Indy Pete who seems like a nice guy, and any other Indianapolis resident here... St. Elmos is (I'm trying to be nice here) old school.

In the past I've had stronger words to say about it. And my bigger "beef" is that the entire city's culinary identity is built around a shrimp cocktail, which is a very nice shrimp cocktail, but come on.

Here's the deal with St Elmos. It's an old school steakhouse. They exist all over, in every city. It looks exactly like somewhere you'd expect Frank and Dean and the boys to have run up a $1000 tab in 1961. They've been around for 100 years and they're proud of it. Awesome. The problem with that is, the food and the menu has been around for 100 years too. 

Now don't get me wrong, an old school steakhouse has its place in the culinary landscape. But honestly, most of it is for nostalgia. The fact that people talk about St Elmos so much in Indy has more to do with the fact that the true food "revolution" has been a bit slow to land in the city (some new good places), combined with so many big sporting events there, that require sports journalists to do stories about "local fare."  But in the end, that's what St Elmos is. It's the same old school steakhouse you can have in most every major city in America, you can order the "tomahawk" cut, and eat like they did "when things were good in this place."  Or whatever.

But our culinary sensibilities have changed in the past 70 years. Shit, they've changed in the past 10 years leaps and bounds.

Here's the deal about steakhouses in general. It's not about the steaks. Chefs that work here are masters of cooking and preparing meat. If you can't do that, then GTFO. So, every good steakhouse that is actually good can cook. The meat... well that comes from the same handful of purveyors. Yeah you can shop a little more local "from a small farm in the Hudson Valley" or whatever. But that's just narrative. A high end cut of beef from Jeff Ruby's, tastes like a high end cut of beef from Cote, tastes like the same high end cut of beef from Maple & Ash. 

It's the sides...

That's where they separate themselves. What are you doing with your compound butter or demi-glace? How are you serving the potatoes? Creamed spinach to die for? And so on... and so on...

So, find yourself the steakhouse that does the sides well. The 20oz porterhouse rare+ or whatever you treat yourself to, meat-wise, is basically going to be the same great cut of meat. But everything else.... that's what separates men from the boys. 

That's also why a place like St. Elmos isn't really anything more than eating a Nathans on Coney Island. Do it if you're there. It's cool to say you did. But there's nothing special about it.

JMo

January 21st, 2022 at 10:23 AM ^

LOL. I didn't think mgoblog was exactly the place for "cultivated opinion" shaming. But sure, happy to dumb things down for you...

St Elmos... thems okay eats, but you can do better.

Or maybe, having an opinion at all offended you.

St. Elmos... uhmm, i dunno?

All better now?  :)

1VaBlue1

January 21st, 2022 at 11:25 AM ^

Found the local 'I'm a sensitive guy' account...

Settle down, insert some steel into your spine, and accept the normal slate of 'found <some> account' one line replies as the sarcasm they are.  Not everything is a personal attack - I expected a guy with a 50-gal hat to have some sense of humor.  Jeez...

JMo

January 21st, 2022 at 12:42 PM ^

Well, it appears leading with the "LOL", the finishing with the ":)", and basically the general tenor of my response seems to have alluded you. Maybe it was all hiding behind my hat?  But as a great poster once said to me "not everything is a personal attack" and "jeez" :)

caup

January 21st, 2022 at 12:20 PM ^

While I agree with most of your post, I must say that some steakhouses char better than others. Also, some steakhouses have fantastic seasoning rubs that make a world of difference.

To say that the piece of meat is the only variable is not quite correct.

JMo

January 21st, 2022 at 2:53 PM ^

Oh sure. I may not have done a good job delineating my point, I'm only really talking about those places that are considered to be "the best." 

Some will use a woodfire grill, different rubs, or few different cooking techniques, that are unique to them. I guess my point is, all of that is playing in the margins when you're talking about the "elite" steakhouses. They're all going to go out of their way to ensure that the beef is the star on the plate. And they are are serving the same exceptionally high quality beef.

WindyCityBlue

January 21st, 2022 at 3:56 PM ^

I'm a red meat snob.  I've been to St. Elmo's a few times and each time it was really good.  One of the best prime ribs I've ever had.  They tout their horseradish shrimp there more than anything, but if you buy your steaks prime (and medium-rare to rare) St Elmos is fantastic.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

January 21st, 2022 at 8:11 AM ^

St. Elmo’s is definitely iconic. A beautiful restaurant with a famous shrimp cocktail with a bite that you will remember. The steaks are excellent of course, and the service is also outstanding. In my opinion, the steak at Ruth’s Chris is even more special given the seasoning and the scalding hot plate. It is not quite as special of an experience as Saint Elmo’s as it is a chain, but in terms of steak quality, I would give RC first place. 

mgoblue78

January 20th, 2022 at 11:39 PM ^

Well, Bowdie's original location is in Saugatuck. I haven't been, but Vernales between Petoskey and Harbor Springs gets good reviews as one of the top steakhouses in the state.

Yo_Blue

January 21st, 2022 at 3:08 PM ^

Totally agree with Vernales.  We have a cottage across the street and spend quite a bit of time there.  They have three restaurants in one ranging in degrees of "fanciness".  The same menu is served at all three so you can watch TV in the sports bar while eating your prime tomahaw.

kookie

January 20th, 2022 at 11:40 PM ^

I'm not sure Michigan has a great steakhouse or at least one that is a destination.

A2's Chop House might be the best.

Roast (RIP) was very good when it opened. Rochester Chop House is always quality.