MgoHillbilly

June 17th, 2020 at 4:35 PM ^

This kind of crap is what Michigan student athletes should get passes on. I'm not saying give credit for bullshit classes like at UNC, but from the same conference? Ridiculous.

MgoHillbilly

June 17th, 2020 at 5:45 PM ^

It could be an excuse, but I remember transferring colleges in Georgia a long time ago after finishing up our state required core curriculum here at a public university in Georgia and was surprised that Georgia Tech (public) was going to offer me less credit than Emory (private) was offering.  I still don't understand why I would be asked to retake things like calculus after already having taken it (along with applied calculus class) at another public state school with the same common core.  Made my transfer decision a no-brainer, but seems nuts to me even now.  So it wouldn't surprise me to hear that a school is shorting credits from another to try and milk them for more tuition money.

Maybe the NCAA should consider letting students in his situation enroll and extend their eligibility in order to make up the classes needed...

TheCube

June 17th, 2020 at 4:36 PM ^

Coach Howard can't seem to catch a break. How the hell are credits not transferable from Purdue? It's not like it's a pushover school.

Special Agent Utah

June 17th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^

And people wonder why Beilein left.

I mean I’m all in favor of us maintaining standards and not accepting any transfer from dumb fuck U, unlike Izzo. But, come on, it’s Purdue, find a way to accept the credits. 

Perkis-Size Me

June 17th, 2020 at 4:39 PM ^

I'd understand credits not transferring from a place like SCLSU, but this is Purdue. They're a fellow Big Ten school, and a darn good school in their own right. How in the hell do credits not transfer from there? 

ak47

June 17th, 2020 at 4:53 PM ^

My guess is he had a lot of credits under one specific area and Michigan capped the number of transfer credits. Its pretty normal for schools to limit transfer credits so you aren't going to the school for one semester and 4 classes and getting a degree, generally you need at least two years of remaining credit at Michigan.

Grad transfers are obviously different because they are coming into a new program for a new degree

4th phase

June 17th, 2020 at 5:21 PM ^

This is probably it. He spent 3 years at Purdue, probably had close to 100 credits and figured he would get a Michigan degree in 2 semesters. Michigan probably said to actually receive the degree you have to spend a minimum of 4 semesters enrolled, which makes sense. 

But isn't that going to be the case at basically every school? 

4th phase

June 17th, 2020 at 8:29 PM ^

I don’t get the analogy. The marriage is an agreement between two people. Michigan gives degrees to thousands every year, and it would kind of cheapen the degree if you barely have to go there.

Who knows the details, but athletes already get a lot of flexibility. Admissions have cost Michigan like 4 athletes in the last 10 years.  

MgoHillbilly

June 17th, 2020 at 8:37 PM ^

I'm saying that all it takes is two parties to agree and time alone shouldn't be a deciding factor in special relationships.  Scholarship athletes in football and basketball provide extraordinary value to the university and the University should make exceptions for students who bring that to the table.  

MgoHillbilly

June 18th, 2020 at 10:20 AM ^

I'm saying Michigan would have to approve that arrangement on a discretionary basis. If you were a talented student athlete who would be visibly representing the University and bring in a bunch of money, then make an exception. For the same reason some kids get scholarships and others pay full tuition, schools already make exceptions to attract students they want. I don't see why that can't be the case here, especially with a student athlete from another well regarded school in the same conference.

4th phase

June 17th, 2020 at 6:37 PM ^

I know he wasn't a grad transfer. Weren't there rumors that he didn't want to to sit and that he would just go pro overseas if he didn't get granted eligibility? And he was probably banking on an blanket transfer waiver from the NCAA coming this summer.

Not to mention even if he did actually plan on being at Michigan for 2 years, maybe he wanted one of those years to get his grad degree, in case the shooting never comes around.

The more I think about this, it seems like it was just a really knee jerk decision on his part, that he maybe made before having everything thought through. He left Purdue out of nowhere (according to Painter), was in the transfer portal for a day before announcing he was coming to Michigan on twitter, then there were rumors he announced that before Michigan gave him the green light, and now seemingly his credits aren't transferring, but who knows for sure. Weird situation.

TrueBlue2003

June 17th, 2020 at 4:55 PM ^

He wasn't a grad transfer, was he? If that was the case, credits transferring wouldn't matter.  He'd hae a degree and would be starting from scratch in a grad program. 

Even still, why not let him transfer in but say ok, you have 90 credits at Purdue but we can only take 78 or whatever they're willing to accept?  Isn't that something everyone would do since he's going to take two more years (5 total) anyway?

Jack Be Nimble

June 17th, 2020 at 4:54 PM ^

Anyone know what his major is? This seems a little odd. In my experience, both Michigan and Purdue (I've attended both institutions) are a bit hesitant about taking transfer credits from anyone, but I have never heard of a guy trying to transfer within the Big Ten being told he doesn't have enough credits.

ldd10

June 17th, 2020 at 5:09 PM ^

Weird situation.  Do players normally make sure they are good to go academically before they announce?  Not sure he was ideal fit anyways. 

Side note - saw only Izzo called Emoni the other night.  Is UM pursuing or is it just kinda understood if he goes to school for year he's going to MSU?  Seemed weird no other coaches called. 

njvictor

June 17th, 2020 at 5:27 PM ^

From what I've heard, Eastern was a "Sales" or "Sales Management" major at Purdue, which is the athlete major and was basically almost failing all of his classes. Michigan doesn't have a Sales major from my understanding and the closest thing to that would be a Marketing major in Ross. So that plus doing very poorly in all of his classes is why he wasn't admitted

I think we kinda dodged a bullet here honestly because most Purdue fans think he and his family are headcases and he's a 6'8" forward who can't shoot, but insists on being a PG and primary ball handler

highlow

June 17th, 2020 at 6:03 PM ^

I didn't believe that sales was a real major. Lo and behold.

(I am all for some level of professional education in undergrad -- either explicitly geared toward a future profession like software engineering or obviously applicable like statistics -- but this feels far more like a vocational school major than something a four year university should offer.)

nerv

June 17th, 2020 at 7:24 PM ^

From a basketball perspective I think we could have definitely worked him into our system and benefited from it. That said, if he is only interested in a certain role and not willing to bend from it than it would have been very iffy. Who knows what the case is but I was hoping we could make it work with him and give this team some much needed depth.

gustave ferbert

June 17th, 2020 at 5:34 PM ^

Sucks to see that the University is still a hard ass to transfer credits.  I spent a summer abroad through a different university program.  None of that shit transferred.  

uncle leo

June 17th, 2020 at 6:02 PM ^

I was tepid about him coming here to begin with.

He's an excellent defender; there is no doubt about it. 

But the dude is a complete black hole on offense. To say he was a poor man's Matthews is an understatement. Matthews could get to the hole, could hit the occasional outside jumper, and was at least, at worst, a threat to score. You do not even have to guard Eastern.

And I don't even think he was going to be eligible to play this season. I think scholarships were better served going to other players.

ThadMattasagoblin

June 17th, 2020 at 7:19 PM ^

Nojel Eastern is basically Tum Tum. I'm more excited about the Wake Forest transfer Brown and I'm not considering this a big loss considering he may have had to sit out a year anyways.

ChuckieWoodson

June 17th, 2020 at 7:32 PM ^

Typical elite Michigan bullshit. You wonder why we lose to OSU every year? This is part of the problem. It's one fucking guy out of 25k. Who gives a shit. Look at the bigger picture you goons

Ajcoss

June 17th, 2020 at 8:57 PM ^

Think we use the scholarship spot? Read something about a 21 5-star that liked Michigan and thought he might reclassify to 20 class. Anyone hear about this? Can’t find story anymore to recall guys name. Others possibly on list to explore for last spot?