October 4th, 2017 at 10:01 AM ^
Uhh... child abuse is illegal in every state, I believe.
October 4th, 2017 at 10:12 AM ^
And you have to beat the shit out of a kid to get charged with it. Give children the same protections adults receive under DV laws. Watch half the country go to jail the next week.
/two kids. never raised a hand to either. Daughter is a freshman at Michigan.
October 4th, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^
"Societal outrage" and something being against the law are not the same things. There are a lot of examples at which there is outrage that are perfectly legal; but the ones that come immediately to mind are political and so I'll leave them unsaid. Anyway, I don't want to argue with you here because I agree with your anti-beating-children perspective completely. I just disagree with your implication that there is no outrage about said child beating; there clearly is.
October 4th, 2017 at 2:33 PM ^
Hey I agree with you. I was just pointing out that it is technically illegal.
In my opinion, physical discipline of children is absolutely wrong in every account no matter what. People claim it's how they were raised, and that's true of my family as well, but at some point we have to be willing to admit that our ancestors were wrong. If a person took a belt to a grown 200 lb man, they'd go to jail no question. But you're allowed to take a belt to a 6 year old? That doesn't add up.
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:39 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 9:25 AM ^
If you say so.
October 4th, 2017 at 8:41 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 9:59 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 9:58 AM ^
People need to remember that everything about the NFL is amplified by the media attention the NFL gets. Domestic violence is actually significantly less amongst NFL players than the national average for men of that age range.
October 4th, 2017 at 10:00 AM ^
Not trying to say there isn't a domestic violence problem. But it is a national problem, not a football problem.
October 4th, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
2% of men aged 25-29 are arrested each year for each of drug use and DUI? That seems like a lot.
October 4th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 2:49 PM ^
The national average for both is about 2,000/100,000 -> ~2%
October 4th, 2017 at 1:24 PM ^
Considering that ~0.3% of the entire population of Michigan was arrested for DUI in 2015 (34,000 DUI arrests in a population of 9.9 million) and the biggest group of offenders is 25-29yo men... 2% doesn't seem to unrealistic to me.
October 4th, 2017 at 2:53 PM ^
I did not know that. It looks like in 2017, there were 283K men 25-29 in Michigan. Assuming similar numbers for 2015, that's 5660 arrests. Agreed that's not a crazy share of the total number.
October 4th, 2017 at 8:40 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 8:19 AM ^
requires help with his anger issues. Football should be his least concerns...until he gets his anger under control.
October 4th, 2017 at 8:24 AM ^
Adios
October 4th, 2017 at 8:27 AM ^
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:35 AM ^
How long until the first "Grant Perry assaulted a women but he is a starter so he barely got in trouble and Nate Johnson did the same thing but was immediately kicked off the team because he is buried on the depth chart" hot take article/comment emerges?
October 4th, 2017 at 8:42 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 8:57 AM ^
Gonna disagree... I have no idea what Nate has done to get himself kicked off the team, but I'll put money down that says he did more than arrogantly grab some girls ass. But I'll use your example - if Rashan grabs some girls ass he'll be suspended (like Perry was) until its resolved. If Rashan beats some woman (or whatever Nate has done), he'll be dismissed.
I don't think Harbaugh tolerates much, and I don't think he plays favorites under identical situations. His entire coaching mantra is 'next guy up, be ready to play'...
October 4th, 2017 at 11:10 AM ^
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October 4th, 2017 at 8:35 AM ^
How about just Don't Hit Anyone?
October 4th, 2017 at 8:45 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 11:07 AM ^
There are laws against hitting people But yet many people don't pay heed to them. Time to ban all hands.
October 4th, 2017 at 11:28 AM ^
October 4th, 2017 at 9:46 PM ^
This is getting out of control. Nate is glad he wasn't dating this woman.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/10/04/maleia-cole-murder-charges/
October 4th, 2017 at 8:36 AM ^
"Character and Integrity are the greatest insurance policies that have never failed at protecting ones purpose and future"
October 4th, 2017 at 8:53 AM ^
Sounds like Manuel and Harbaugh gave him a chance to tell his side of the story, and were underwhelmed with it. I trust Harbaugh to make prudent decisions on these matters and put character ahead of near-term results on the field.
Caveat, of course, that we don't know what happened. But this decision points toward it being pretty bad - not Grant Perry stuff, but something worse.
October 4th, 2017 at 10:41 AM ^
Gee, have to wonder how this would have been handled by the Staee coaching staff. With all the similar issues they've had up there, I don't think they have EVER acted this promptly and decisively to remove a bad actor from the program. In fact, I recall them waiting outside the jailhouse to ferry some kid to practice once he was released. Am I right about that?
October 4th, 2017 at 8:45 AM ^
Exactly how a program should handle this kind of situation.
October 4th, 2017 at 9:00 AM ^
What kind of situation is this? Is this a Grant Perry or Frank Clarke situation? I legit want to know, because I haven't seen or heard anything other than Johnson was booted off the team. Apparently, you have some other knowledge - please share!
October 4th, 2017 at 8:54 AM ^
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October 4th, 2017 at 9:14 AM ^
at many levels. Thoughts for the victim, and for the young man to straighten his life out. Hope both get the help they need. Glad Michigan is a stand up program.
October 4th, 2017 at 9:31 AM ^
under these circumstances. One, is that Mr. Johnson was not truthful about his actions to the police or the coach, or both, and the story is worse than acknowledged. In any case, the normal suspension bar that denies an athlete a place on the team while working through an off-field problem, civil or criminal matter is always a matter of degree, policy and judgement and how the incident and its treatment reflects on the university and the team.
Regardless of the details, I am certain they are not the harbinger of good news for anyone. And thus the action taken by the coach.
October 4th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
Since this happened during the season, I don't believe it will count for the Fulmer Cup Standings.
October 4th, 2017 at 10:10 AM ^
But glad it doesn't look like our staff messes around with this stuff. Hoping the kid can get his act together but if it's true, don't need that on the team.
October 4th, 2017 at 10:31 AM ^
happens at 2 10 am. Outside
October 4th, 2017 at 10:48 AM ^
Actually, back in the early '70s when I was an undergrad here and used to trip out regularly, lots of good stuff happened outside at 2:10 a.m. At least I think it was outside, and quite possibly it was dark. Fuck me, I don't know.
But what I do know, for sure, is that I have never hit a woman. Period. Straight or stoned.
October 4th, 2017 at 11:57 AM ^
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