MSU hires Colorado OC Jay Johnson as OC

Submitted by Bambi on February 17th, 2020 at 8:59 PM

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Johnson led Colorado to the #51 offense according to S&P+ despite having a first round pick at WR and the schools all-time passing leader at QB. #51 is an improvement over MSU's 2019 offense, and Colorado's 2018, it this seems like an uninspiring hire as most UC fans are happy he's gone.

So far Mel Tucker is being paid $5.5 mil to put together a Frankenstein staff of MSU and UC coaches. That, like the OC hire, seems uninspiring.

Swazi

February 17th, 2020 at 9:05 PM ^

He’s the one coach Colorado fans are happy to see leave.

 

Reminds me of Hoke bringing Borges with him, but having no where near the talent at his disposal year 1.

 

Also, it’s not UC.  Two Cincinnati coaches shave told Sparty no already.  Colorado AFAIK is CU.

Don

February 17th, 2020 at 9:51 PM ^

The weird thing is that the official name of the institution is the University of Colorado, but for some reason the athletic dept goes by CU.

It's the same thing with Kansas: the athletic dept goes by KU, but the official name is the University of Kansas.

A Lot of Milk

February 17th, 2020 at 9:55 PM ^

It's so unbelievably dumb and almost all of the Big 12 does it. I believe I read that they do it to distinguish themselves from more established schools that already have the nickname. For instance, Kansas goes by KU because Kentucky goes by UK. But like, aren't you just basically conceding that your school is second fiddle if you literally have to make your nickname an incorrect abbreviation of your actual name? 

Bambi

February 17th, 2020 at 9:07 PM ^

From a Colorado fan on Reddit:

"CU offensive rankings:

91st points per game

91st red zone scoring

75th yards per game 4

6th 3rd down conversion percentage

I hope for the sake of MSU that he isn’t going to be their OC. I imagine he’ll probably just be the QB coach."

He will be both the QB Coach and OC. QB Steven Montez regressed in every major category last year (Completion %, YPA, INT%, TD% QB RTG) as a senior 3rd year starter. 

Bodogblog

February 18th, 2020 at 11:25 AM ^

There was a whole thing on twitter a few weeks back.  Ant was a dick, questioned the kickstarter $ Ace got last year (or more correctly, questioned why Ace took that $ from some and then blocked those people), and in doing that his phrasing made it clear he didn't believe Ace's CFS ailment was severe or real.  A big Michigan twitter war started, others chimed in that Ace hadn't been thankful enough, or that they had donated and felt betrayed because they were blocked by Ace because they also followed Ant.  And many of those comments continued to question Ace's CFS and its severity.  Just a horror show on many sides. 

That's twitter though.  Ace and mgoblog blocked lots of folks for being toxic to Ace, or just following or liking someone who had been toxic to Ace.  I somewhat get that, but I've seen Ace and mgoblog be plenty toxic to plenty of people (toxicity is probably the best one word description of twitter, and Ace and Brian certainly know that).  To take the time - what must have been hours and hours - to go through and meticulously hunt out people who followed Ant or LGHail (he also got pulled into this nonsense I believe?) or whoever - most of whom made no comment on this twitter war at all - is petty and peak twitter.  Probably a much better idea to get off the app ("but Ace has lots of followers and this is how he makes his living"; understood but toxicity is going to come at you from all angles on twitter). The whole thing was vomitous. 

MichCali

February 18th, 2020 at 11:04 AM ^

Are you serious?  That whole drama thing with Ace?  Man, that's some childish shit.  I tried to make sure I didn't "like" anything that would upset Ace, because I heard he was going thru Ant's and other people's tweets to see who liked them to he could block them.  I guess I failed.  Funny thing is, I'm not blocked by Ace, but I am from MgoBlog.

SpartanInA2

February 17th, 2020 at 9:41 PM ^

I'm not crazy about the OC hire, but not going to bash it until I actually see plays called. I would have liked to see a bigger name as OC but given the timing we probably didn't have much of a chance for that this year. IMO, our main problem last season was terrible blocking, not so much to do with play calling.

 I'm very happy with the OL coach hire though. By all accounts he's a good OL coach, and that has been by far our biggest weakness the last few years. Keeping Burton and Tressel was good as well, especially Burton. Obviously a lot left to fill out on the staff so we'll see where this goes from here. Probably won't be a lot of great options available at this time so we might have to try again next year.

Seth

February 17th, 2020 at 11:16 PM ^

I agree playcalling wasn't a problem for MSU last year. If anything I thought the offense made a lot of sense for the ability on the field. Their problem was they got lucky once in building Jack Conklin and French and Beedle, plus an Allen brother, into a great OL, and instead of continuing to scout guys and take the best shots, I'm convinced MSU decided those were their types and got super-focused on repeating that. What they ended up with were a bunch of tackles too light to play (Chewins, Reid, Campbell, Arcuri, Higby) a lug in Jarvis who can't get anywhere fast enough, and progressively worse Allens who try to make up the difference with laughable holding attempts. And since the twiggy tackles break like twigs they're constantly injured.

I think the Samac kid will be good one day, and who knows maybe some of the other youngsters they used will be too. But shit you can't play offense with the lines they've been putting out there the last few years.