Michigan offers JUCO CB Geovonte Howard
Kilgore tweeted out the offer and it was reported by Allen Trieu. It's rare to see Michigan offer a JUCO, but makes sense considering the position. I don't know much about JUCO rankings but he's currently unranked out of Kilgore JC in Texas. His other notable offers seem to be Ole Miss and Maryland.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:15 PM ^
At least they are recognizing they have failed to successfully recruit the position, not a great situation though
November 18th, 2019 at 4:16 PM ^
They've recruited the position well. They've retained those recruits not as well.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:21 PM ^
Not recently
November 18th, 2019 at 4:35 PM ^
We had Myles Sims and Ben St Juste in 2017 and 2018 who were both high 4 stars and had some decent guys in 2019 in DJ Turner and Jalen Perry. We've recruited decently well recently, but obviously Sims and St Juste did not turn out well
November 18th, 2019 at 4:37 PM ^
Correction, St. Juste turned out quite well, just not for Michigan
November 18th, 2019 at 5:08 PM ^
He’s not very good @ UMN. Would be 3rd or 4th string @ CB here
November 18th, 2019 at 7:28 PM ^
He would definitely be playing over Gray if he were here. He’s been decent this year, the week before against PSU he had a very solid game.
November 19th, 2019 at 10:59 AM ^
He's been PFF focus' CB of the week several times this year and I beleive was named to their PFF mid-season all B1G team. He wouldn't start over Ambry or Vert, but he's been very good at UMN and the issue he had here was that the medical staff believed he shouldn't continue playing the sport.
November 18th, 2019 at 6:01 PM ^
I watched the MN vs Iowa... I don't like being negative on players, but Iowa was going at St. Juste all night for a reason.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:22 PM ^
Juste left Michigan for a reason - he wasn’t going to play. Again, MGoBloggers know more about recruiting and coaching than the UM staff
November 18th, 2019 at 9:16 PM ^
Well, he certainly wasn't going to play for Michigan because he was medically retired.
November 18th, 2019 at 6:23 PM ^
Don't forget Keith Washington. He's been pretty good for two years at WVU.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:03 PM ^
Washington is one of those players that was just too good to keep. He was a converted QB in the H.S. Class of 2015 and got passed by David Long and Lavert Hill, both true CBs, who were in the next class. I'm sure a fresh start at a new school seemed preferable to fighting Brandon Watson and Ambry Thomas for snaps and hoping that you'd get a crack at a starting job.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:24 PM ^
He’s much better than Watson, so he could’ve been a nickel(Or move Hill inside) had he waited longer. However, I do get his reasoning for finding another situation.
November 18th, 2019 at 8:45 PM ^
Sam Webb has shot this down as not accurate.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:15 PM ^
I'm insanely over-zealous after that MSU ass-whooping so I say:
ALL YOUR JUCOS ARE BELONG TO US!!!!
November 18th, 2019 at 4:23 PM ^
I think I speak for the board when I say it's time for us to get over the State victory. Let's strive for something higher than beating a subpar 4-6 team. Let's beat a team that matters.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^
I think I speak for the board when I say it’s time to shut your whore mouth and let us bask in the glory of an ass kicking that we can refer to for the next year when encountering any MSU mouth breather
November 18th, 2019 at 5:36 PM ^
Calling MSU fans mouth breathers is kind of harsh towards mouth breathers
November 18th, 2019 at 5:53 PM ^
It’s true. I’m a mouth breather and most of us wouldn’t have a thing to do with MSU . . .
November 18th, 2019 at 4:31 PM ^
A team that matters? Like ND?
November 18th, 2019 at 4:48 PM ^
MSU always matters. They deserve to have their asses kicked for many years to come, just to "even things out".
November 18th, 2019 at 4:50 PM ^
Good try Mork...
November 18th, 2019 at 5:02 PM ^
You're like one of those people on tv (You know who I'm talking about) that's completely out of touch with reality.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:17 PM ^
Who are you talking about?
November 18th, 2019 at 5:02 PM ^
You don't. Your thoughts were wrong.
November 18th, 2019 at 6:31 PM ^
How in the Hell did someone join today and get points?
That's almost as confusing as someone joining today and claiming to speak for the board.
November 18th, 2019 at 10:48 PM ^
You only speak for yourself.
November 19th, 2019 at 9:50 AM ^
To the Troll Cave with you...
November 18th, 2019 at 4:27 PM ^
I'm having flashbacks, when we went out and got Austin Panter.
Good player just not thrilled with the situation.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^
Good. This is something that Michigan could do better with. There are a lot of CC kids who are worthy of consideration to play at UM.
November 18th, 2019 at 6:03 PM ^
I agree, problem is admissions. Lots of JUCO credits don't transfer...
November 18th, 2019 at 10:23 PM ^
That’s a problem academically as well. The juco transfer to UC (cal and UCLA included) set up was so much better than Michigan’s. In fact, it’s easier and simpler to transfer to cal tech or Harvard from a CC than it is to Michigan.
It’s really something Michigan could do better at.
November 19th, 2019 at 1:08 AM ^
It is super easy to transfer to Uofm from cc. I and many other students have done it. Only way it would be a problem Is if you took joke classes your entire CC career...which some football players may Be doing I suppose.
But I LOVE recruiting a few JUCO players here and there. Especially if we are going to continue to refuse to bag, we need every advantage we can get.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:31 PM ^
Are we even allowed to take JUCO kids?
I mean, I know the NCAA allows it, but based on how rare it is in Ann Arbor, I just assumed the administration had a blanket ban on accepting all JUCO transfers.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:33 PM ^
I think it's mostly been an academics issue. Brad Hawkins was a JUCO, so this staff has shown they won't shy away.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:36 PM ^
Hawkins was not JUCO. He took a year of prep school I believe
November 18th, 2019 at 4:40 PM ^
Correct, Hawkins did a prep year at Suffield Academy in CT. Important to remember, that he had already qualified academically but had a NCAA Clearinghouse issue.
November 18th, 2019 at 5:40 PM ^
It's mostly an academics issue and that won't change. We can be sure that they got his transcripts before throwing out an offer.
It's tougher for any transfer to get past Michigan admissions than recruits out of HS. Most football players that go the JUCO route out of HS do so because of academic issues and are unlikely to be recruitable to Michigan. They just won't earn enough transferable credits.
Howard didn't even have a recruiting profile in HS, so he may have gone to JUCO for football reasons and his academics are fine. Michigan does take JUCOs in baseball frequently.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:08 PM ^
Yeah, baseball is a much different story given you don't even get 12 scholarships to divvy up. Good chance my son will be going JUCO.
November 18th, 2019 at 8:21 PM ^
Tough enough that Van Jefferson couldn’t gain admission from Ole Miss to UM but did gain admission at Florida. CC credits > Ole Miss?
November 19th, 2019 at 9:05 AM ^
You should never assume a transfer is going to get in unless they are coming from a school ranked near or above Michigan in academics.
CC credits can definitely be better than those from Ole Miss. It all depends on what classes they take.
November 18th, 2019 at 5:40 PM ^
Stop with the academic crap
November 18th, 2019 at 6:25 PM ^
It's true though.
Mostly about trouble with credits transferring but still very much a thing for transfers, particularly JUCOs.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:31 PM ^
I'm honestly surprised Hill/Thomas didn't waive Julian Barnett over after the game and give him a Michigan jersey to blend in.
November 18th, 2019 at 4:46 PM ^
That is one player I’d love Michigan to get from east Lansing as long as he stays away from the needle
November 18th, 2019 at 4:56 PM ^
Barnett is definitely one I wish Michigan could have signed. He was advertised primarily as a CB out of high school but not surprised he's playing WR because his HS WR tape was very impressive.
November 18th, 2019 at 5:01 PM ^
Barnett was the only O player on MSU who looked like he belonged on the field with us.
November 18th, 2019 at 7:41 PM ^
I hate sparty and everything they stand for but you're forgetting Cody White.
That guy would be very productive on an offense with a qb and an O line that has half a pulse.
November 18th, 2019 at 8:42 PM ^
Barnett looked like a potential all American. White looked like a solid Iowa player. He’s clearly the second most talented offensive player though.