Michigan Director of Recruiting Candidate Chad Bowden to stay at Notre Dame
Don’t shoot the messenger but looks like the plan to boost recruiting by scooping up Bowden mentioned by Sam Webb and the roundtable fell through.
Cue the obligatory Fire Warde and the sky is falling takes.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:54 PM ^
Yeah, the Grant rumor is a hypothetical scenario from Warde's hatin'-ass-haters for failing to secure Herbert.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:22 PM ^
Me thinks your head is rumbling… get it checked out and stop posting stupidly
February 1st, 2024 at 3:44 PM ^
No new thread with this? Come on. We love edge of the internet stuff around here
February 1st, 2024 at 3:52 PM ^
Where's Sal when you need him.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:08 PM ^
In a fistfight with Long Covid.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:54 PM ^
i hear ya. Since 2019 I went from long haulers to inter-continental to inter stlellar with Space X. DARPA has me on a kill mission for any Greys.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:22 PM ^
This name being floated out by Webb struck me like media sites for the Cubs, Tigers and all the other MLB teams not named the Dodgers or Yankees stating that they had a chance of signing Ohtani.
The next time we outbid another major school for talent will be the first time.
February 1st, 2024 at 5:18 PM ^
I wish everyone we wanted was at West Virginia. It seems like the only school we can outbid.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:25 PM ^
That must have cost ND an arm and a leg. Hurts with retaining Elston.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:30 PM ^
Dang. This is sort of a bummer. One of the exciting parts of Sherrone hiring was the theoretical smooth transition. Much more (potential) staff changes than I anticipated. I guess we will learn soon about how Sherrone will put together a staff.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:46 PM ^
Who told you that a smooth transition meant no staff changes. There are schools out there who played their last game in November. They are bound to be shopping to improve their lot. None of the staff signed on for life, they are all going to try to improve their lot in life as well. Get a grip.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:28 PM ^
Dude you're projecting like a motherfucker. I'm not acting like the sky is falling, because it is not. However, it is incredibly disappointing if we lose Mike Elston because he is a great staff member.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:48 PM ^
Isn't Elston the current director of recruiting? Does he wish to offload those responsibilities?
Edit: He's the recruiting coordinator.
Edit 2: Albert Karschnia is the Director of Recruiting Operations.
February 1st, 2024 at 6:27 PM ^
Every time I see Albert Karschnia I read it as Alain Kashama.
Sorry, I just needed to tell someone.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:17 PM ^
Elston did this? That's way too much work to be the DL coach AND the recruiting director.
February 1st, 2024 at 5:21 PM ^
Where would Elston go?
He probably will be named co-DC along with Clink and an appreciably bump in pay.
February 1st, 2024 at 7:04 PM ^
Sam has said Minter wants Elston in LA.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:28 PM ^
Boosting recruiting efforts isn't dependent on landing one individual...
it was my impression that the program planned on increasing the budget and number of positions in the recruiting department overall - this would be a boost to recruiting.
just have to find guys to be a part of that staff.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:46 PM ^
No, but if potential candidates look at our NIL and our spineless AD and decide that they are at a significant disadvantage working here, then it is another negative data point regarding the perception of our program.
At places like OSU, Bama, etc., it is assumed that you will be willing to break any and all rules to get results, and that is a selling point. The players want to get "pay-to-play" and the recruiters want to be able to shower recruits with money.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:27 PM ^
Agreed.
fixing recruiting isn't just increasing recruiting positions - its got to go hand in hand with NIL... Brian hit the nail on the head when he stressed this in his article.
But they have to start somewhere and if they are not going to throw NIL money at it, throwing more people at it is another option
February 1st, 2024 at 3:46 PM ^
Yay, double post. Just like OSU is perceived as soft on the field, we are perceived as soft in our commitment to NIL.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:39 PM ^
We lost out on a guy most of us had never heard of until yesterday. We'll survive.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:43 PM ^
Put another way... "Sherrone Moore lost out on his first choice to run player recruiting"
Which seems not ideal and potentially worth pointing out.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:22 PM ^
It was worth a shot, but I'm not exactly shocked we couldn't rip him away from a peer program when the only connection appeared to be Elston.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:49 PM ^
I’m with this take.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:50 PM ^
I read most posts on this board, but someone please catch me up here. Who again was the recruiting coordinator and did we lose him?
Thanks.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:56 PM ^
We didn't lose anyone. This guy works at ND and he's staying there.
February 1st, 2024 at 7:06 PM ^
I believe HTV means why did we need this ND person, did we lose some other staff member. And I do not actually know the answer to that. I kind of think we didn't really have anyone in this role was the issue. (Edit: Tom Gamble was the Director of Player Personnel and is among those going with Harbaugh.)
Elston is the recruiting coordinator.
February 2nd, 2024 at 12:07 PM ^
That's exactly what I meant, sorry if not clear. Thanks for the information. I didn't recall Elston being in that role but now that you say that it rings a bell. I think makes Seth's comment about retaining Elston make more sense to me as well.
February 1st, 2024 at 3:50 PM ^
There are plenty of good people for this job. Not worried
February 1st, 2024 at 3:56 PM ^
Wasn't that Dudek's job a few years ago?
February 1st, 2024 at 4:50 PM ^
Yeah and getting turnt down by our primary target is how we ended up with that loaf.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:16 PM ^
What ever happened to our team mom lady? She was the secret to success before Herbert took that title.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:21 PM ^
Iowa State director of personnel.. Seems to be next choice
February 1st, 2024 at 5:06 PM ^
Greaaaat they’ve been on the cutting edge /s
February 1st, 2024 at 4:23 PM ^
I hate the offseason
February 1st, 2024 at 4:49 PM ^
I've got bad news for you, you've got seven more months of offseason to look forward to.
February 1st, 2024 at 4:56 PM ^
Is this offseason football's version of a Michigan Hockey Summer?
February 1st, 2024 at 4:40 PM ^
On the ND board they were pretty confident that Bowden would stay at ND - it would have been a lateral move for him, with a (presumed) substantial bump in pay. The ND expectation was that ND would simply boost Bowden's pay and he would stay at ND. Sounds like that's what happened.
February 1st, 2024 at 7:12 PM ^
At least we managed to make Notre Dame commit some more resources. So there! We win!
February 1st, 2024 at 4:42 PM ^
I mean have we added anything this offseason? Resting on laurels is how the hoke era happened. Been. A lot of attrition and not a lot of interest in a championship program no one finds that strange?
February 1st, 2024 at 5:22 PM ^
Michigan only eats during football season.
February 1st, 2024 at 6:05 PM ^
My god, what a bunch of whining bitches on this thread -- two weeks after winning a national title.
February 1st, 2024 at 7:57 PM ^
How’d things go after 97?
February 1st, 2024 at 11:12 PM ^
Maybe we see OSU making huge moves and preparing for next year while we are taking post-season Ls left and right. Going 8-4 (or worse) next year isn't going to be great.
February 1st, 2024 at 8:02 PM ^
As soon as it leaked they were trying to sign him … concluded it was a salary play or I would be pleasantly surprised.
February 1st, 2024 at 11:11 PM ^
FIRE WARDE!
Also, I think Moore and Santa need to be involved in reaching out to the best people.