A Lawyer's Perspective - Competing Considerations

Submitted by XM - Mt 1822 on November 17th, 2023 at 5:10 AM

Mates,

Good Morning.  Not going to make this a diary (or a dairy), but wanted to put a couple of things out there before the day gets going.  We are all ticked off about how this suddenly ended with seemingly the worst possible outcome, and voluntarily.   I also am fond of a saying learned many years ago, "You know what you know, but you don't know what you don't know".   What we don't know might be tougher to figure out but lets see what we do know or at least believe.

First, from my review of the pleadings and knowledge of these types of procedures, we were in a very good place to win this morning.  Having handled a number of these types of procedures and having tried hundreds of cases this was a hearing we wanted to have, and have it with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind.

Second, the surrender yesterday did nothing for us as far as we know*.  What difference is there in a headline from "Michigan Loses Hearing.  Suspension Stands.  News at 11" from "Michigan Folds Tents.  Admits Cheaters and Best"?  In other words, we gained nothing from surrender and lost a very, very good shot at a win.  Unbelievably weak, sniveling, pathetic 'deal'.  You have got to be kidding all of us. 

Weigh those against two more considerations.  One was mentioned by MgoHillbilly when he rightly pointed out last night that there can be cases where, for instance in a criminal matter, the client's family is all gung-ho about going to trial and outraged by a plea that the client is offered but they don't have the big picture and don't know or appreciate some very critical facts.  Also, sometimes the price of failure is catastrophic and simply not worth wagering in the face of a known, final resolution.  We can all talk very bravely until it's our neck on the line looking at the abyss.  

And then you get to our KFATA (Known Friend and Trusted Agent) Craig Ross who, with impeccable sources, says that the Board of Regents went around their counsel, local counsel, and somehow brokered the worst possible deal.  It is my further understanding that Harbaugh did not agree to this.  Remember too, he was technically not a named party to this litigation (AFAIK). And we all shake our heads and mutter curse words.  I will tell you that clients do sometimes make crazy decisions and destroy their own cases.  It happens. 

So what do we do, where are we in all of this?  A couple of thoughts.  First, I think we simply have to figure that there are some significant things we simply don't know*.  That is a hard one to fathom since we know the lawyers closest to the controversy were absolutely ready to rumble this morning but there has to be some rational, even if weak, reason for what happened.    And second, I think you simply have to put this into the category of things you care about, maybe even care too much about, but cannot do anything about.  In other words, steel up your spine, drink some whole milk, have some vitamin steak and keep marching to the Victors.  

And no matter what, remember Coach Moore's awesome words after the PSU game.  We have the best players, the best alumni and the best university in the world.  We also have the best coach.  Support our players and our team and don't waste too much time trying to analyze something that can't be changed by any of us. 

Have a great Friday.  It is still football season and we are about to make the terps road kill.

Go Blue!

XM 

 

XM - Mt 1822

November 17th, 2023 at 8:24 AM ^

My sources tell me exactly what I wrote:  JH did not agree to this and the local lawyers are ticked about it getting settled in this fashion.  To the extent JH was named on the pleadings, he was a nominal plaintiff, but the Regents were the real party in interest.

and I’m disappointed like all of us, but have a full day and I’m barely 4 hours into it.  Too busy to be angry.

Monkey House

November 17th, 2023 at 6:31 AM ^

One of my issues is it feels like us fans have been hung out to dry. The fans deserve to know what happened and not in lawyer speak. We all rallied around because we were told Michigan was going to fight like hell and it was WAR. None of that SEEMS to have been true. The fans pay the bills and we deserve answers. 

jmblue

November 17th, 2023 at 6:32 AM ^

 this suddenly ended with seemingly the worst possible outcome, 

I'm certainly not happy that he can't coach the 1000th win or the OSU game, but this is not the worst outcome.  He could have been forbidden from coaching the team during the week.  He also could have had additional games added to the suspension.

Presumably, the Big Ten told us, "If you fight us, you'd better win or we're adding more to the punishment."  And (as Sam Webb and some others have hinted) we may not have been fully confident that we would win in front of the judge.

DesertDog

November 17th, 2023 at 7:05 AM ^

The court case wasn't actually about whether somebody at Michigan broke a rule or not, it was about whether the Big Ten was following its own rules. Winning it would not have made people stop calling us cheaters. It would not have made the NCAA go away.

The problem is that if this wasn't Harbaugh's idea, he is probably gone at the first chance he gets.

DesertDog

November 17th, 2023 at 7:10 AM ^

I can see a scenario where Michigan wins this court case because the court rules that they cannot punish Harbaugh for an institutional violation but the court does not accept Michigan's due process argument. In that case, the Big Ten might conclude that the only legal way for them to sufficiently punish Michigan would be to ban them from the Big Ten Championship Game and the postseason.

LSA89

November 17th, 2023 at 7:40 AM ^

My read of this was similar. Michigan got word that if the Harbaugh suspension was overturned, then the institution’s punishment was the ban from the conference championship game. The weakest point in the B1G’s case was targeting Harbaugh. 

I can accept the settlement, as long as Harbaugh signs his contract next week. I’ll always root for the players and the team.

Njia

November 17th, 2023 at 7:51 AM ^

I considered the B1G's possible move as well. It's definitely possible because the conference and its commissioner have been shown to be petty and vindictive. But if Michigan had won the legal case, PR momentum would have been on its side. If the B1G then punished the team and its players, the optics of that would have been damaging to the B1G and the network execs who bankroll the conference would have gone ballistic.

cobra14

November 17th, 2023 at 6:40 AM ^

I’m going to add another thing with this Lawyers post. This is how innocent people go to jail. They are forced into a plea deal because they might lose at trail. Fear is a hell of a motivator. 

UMForLife

November 17th, 2023 at 7:18 AM ^

If BoR did this without any regard for Harbaugh or the team, then UofM deserve to be mediocre. Then I hope Harbaugh leaves. No reason to support the university when they want money. Fuck them. That is how I feel this morning. I am not in favor of tarnishing our own alumni name to protect the brand.

Njia

November 17th, 2023 at 7:23 AM ^

I had a few hours of windshield time driving home last night after the news broke and I'm in agreement with some here that the only thing that makes sense is that the university learned additional facts material to the case that would be presented in court proceedings either today, during discovery, or at a later trial. Whether the B1G knew those facts or the university learned of them as its lawyers interviewed coaches who would later be subpoenaed doesn't matter.

My own speculation leads me to believe that an assistant did know - at a minimum. It's also possible that an assistant was in some way involved in what Stalions was doing, The only way I can see Harbaugh backing down is to protect the coach from a career-ending, public admission of guilt.

Harbaugh is the one guy I can imagine bearing the burden of suspension for that reason. He's a person of genuinely deep faith and while his values lead him to say things that conflict with the social and political beliefs of many people, it is also gives him a perfect example of taking on the guilt of others and accepting punishment on their behalf. If I'm correct about why the university caved and all parties settled in what appears to be defeat for the plaintiffs, that example he professes to believe in every Sunday (and every other day) could not have been lost on him.

Wolverrrrrrroudy

November 17th, 2023 at 7:26 AM ^

Non-lawyer take. Something came up that we are not aware of.  If nothing changed between last week and this in terms of the facts, then it would make no sense to back out of the court proceeding at the last minute. At least not based on what we've been told. It is very strange to put the fans, alumni, and supporters in this kind of position - it destroys credibility, and the solidarity that had been built, the decision makers must know this, so to do it - in light of this, means there is something we don't know. Could be many things, but I don't like what it implies.  

"The Conference agreed to close its investigation, and the University and Coach Harbaugh agreed to accept the three-game suspension. Coach Harbaugh, with the University's support, decided to accept this sanction to return the focus to our student-athletes and their performance on the field."

This statement does not align with what they were saying for more than one week. Also Harbaugh was under no obligation to go to the court proceeding, so it wasn't about more time coaching. 

HL2VCTRS

November 17th, 2023 at 7:30 AM ^

Fuck all the potential reasons. You tell your team to keep fighting all the time. What message does it send to just up and quit?  This is an instance where you go down swinging.

If the team was angry last week how can they be anything but deflated this week? We just sent a message that we quit on them. 
 

 

maizenbluenc

November 17th, 2023 at 7:32 AM ^

Well the unity we had last Friday is fractured for an unknown reason. The one thing we can rally around is fuck the B1G and the other teams in it, and beat Ohio.

I’m betting Jim is gone. He shows up for the press conference Monday all relaxed and “old Jim”, the insiders go silent, Clink went silent, Michigan calls off the dogs with the B1G. 

Nothing against the University, the entire B1G has clearly broken all precedent in expressing they will continue to persecute Michigan while he’s here. He loves Michigan, so he’s leaving. (And he’s giving Moore an audition.)

We all need to start following flightaware again.

mgoja

November 17th, 2023 at 7:33 AM ^

I agree with OP.  The suspension is a done deal (we hope). I imagine the coaching staff and team are focused on what's ahead of them. Control what you can control, next play mentality, etc. -- there's plenty of metaphors coaches and players preach that apply here, and I have to believe that the team buys into them in a big way right now.

However, a huge question remains for the athletic department and the administration, which is  what to do going forward.  The NCAA has governed college athletics for years in a way that gives off a constant, odious stench. And now the conference does as well. While fans are easily and understandably lured by the spectacle of scandal and narratives that lend themselves to readily distinguishing good from evil, football should be mostly about football.  And the value to the university of its flagship athletic program should be the value generated (revenue and building up of the university's brand) and the lessons that can be learned by the athletes (and even by the fans) from participating in the sport.

If Michigan really wants to be a leader, it has to find a way to leave the B1G (or reform it in ways that do not seem possible right now) and leave the NCAA - hopefully speeding it's end as quickly as possible. There's no headline I would like to see more than "Michigan issues death penalty to NCAA".  As a side benefit many of our favorite media hacks would be forced to divert their efforts elsewhere, hopefully (but unlikely) finding new and better ways to contribute to humanity.  

outsidethebox

November 17th, 2023 at 7:35 AM ^

The thing is-in my best effort to don a hat of objectivity, this is a stunningly bizarre case of such minor consequence that seems to defy all logic. As far as I know, Jim Harbaugh remains non-implicated in any reasonable, direct way to the core allegations. And that "cheeseburger gate", also a monumentally trivial matter, continues to lack resolution...it leaves any reasonable person grasping at straws in making an attempt to understand what is at the heart of all this. Tell why the "best" conclusion is not that this is a conspiratorial vendetta against Jim Harbaugh???

Navy Wolverine

November 17th, 2023 at 7:43 AM ^

Yeah that’s been my read all along. These “scandals” have nothing to do about minutiae recruiting or advance scouting violations but instead thinly veiled reasons for the NCAA and big ten to take down Jim Harbaugh. He is an anti-establishment guy who has become successful to the point where he has become a threat to them. 

evenyoubrutus

November 17th, 2023 at 7:44 AM ^

the client's family is all gung-ho about going to trial and outraged by a plea that the client is offered but they don't have the big picture and don't know or appreciate some very critical facts. 

This one really hit home for me XM. Though not criminal, Having spent the last 18 months of my life in a major legal battle it's astonishing how many wannabe lawyers in your life come out of the woodwork to give you legal advice. They might know a fraction of my situation and they're pestering me about what they think I should do. Like my spending $400/hour for hours upon hours every week consulting with lawyers on what to do is irrelevant, and someone who took an intro to law class at WCC is giving me a hard time about my decisions and trying to get me to question my own legal counsel because well don't you know that all lawyers just want your money and will always recommend the most pricey option available. And whenever that happens I imagine I'm Longshanks meeting my son's boyfriend 

We all know what happens next. This is why I'm having a hard time getting mad about this decision. As you stated, we don't know what we don't know 

BlueHenBlue

November 17th, 2023 at 7:44 AM ^

Losing the court case would have amounted to the same situation as now - except that the fans and players would be even more galvanized and energized with the "vs everybody" mentality.

Surrendering feels so deflating right now. Hope the team feels this L and realizes how much it sucks.

LLG

November 17th, 2023 at 8:10 AM ^

@evenyoubruts:  What I don't get is how XM wrote these sentences:   "It is my further understanding that Harbaugh did not agree to this.  Remember too, he was technically not a named party to this litigation (AFAIK)."  I genuinely don't understand how any lawyer could write that last sentence -- of course, Harbaugh was a named party to the litigation.  He was one of the Plaintiffs (with the regents).  Paragraph 2 of the complaint refers to him as "Plaintiff."  (I linked to the complaint.)

It is such a baffling assertion that I am not sure that he is a lawyer because I don't know, and can't imagine, any lawyer ever writing that sentence (i.e., "he was technically not a named party to this litigation (AFAIK)").

Also, Harbaugh was required to agree to dismiss the complaint.  He was a party and it had to be his agreement to dismiss it along with the Regents.

evenyoubrutus

November 17th, 2023 at 8:48 AM ^

Johnny,

I know XM personally (as in outside the blog) as do many others here. If he isn't a lawyer as well as a man of impeccable integrity, then he's one of the greatest con men of all time, on par with Frank Abagnale Jr. And a movie will likely be made about his ability to con an entire message board of anonymous bloggers, his wife, his kids as well as an entire community where he practices law. He'll be played by Tom Cruise, if I had to guess. Either option deserves equal respect.

Also, anyone who says "little buddy" in that context has the maturity of a 15 year old.

bleens ditch

November 17th, 2023 at 7:53 AM ^

It has probably been said multiple times already somewhere in this angst filled Blog, but here I go: As an alum of Michigan I now feel deep embarrassment for UM.

I kept telling associates “wait for everything to come out, we are not dirty.” When the U power structure aligned to fight back, I became even more sure that we were basically innocent. I felt this way, because the smart thing to do if we knew we were dirty would be to cooperate.

The regents undid all my faith by this last-minute capitulation.  

Unless they announce that there is new and more reliable information that led to this last minute collapse, the majority of the public will believe that we are, at best, “a confederacy of dunces,” or at worst cheating cheaters who cheat.

In my uniformed opinion I think we just shit the bed.

Harbaugh2Kolesar

November 17th, 2023 at 7:54 AM ^

What worries me the worst about all of this is the players feeling as demoralized as most of us seem to feel this morning.

I went to put on my U-M sweater this morning, which I do every morning, and paused wondering if I wanted to do that today.  Made me realize, how must the players feel?  They've heard, as much as us if not more, how U-M is going to fight this and has Harbaugh's back, etc...

I'm sure coach talked to them and gave them the reasoning, but it still has to have an effect.

Are they destroying all references to "Michigan vs. Everybody"?  I fully expected us to show up for Michigan vs Maryland and Michigan vs. ohio.  We didn't show up for Michigan vs. Everybody...