Joshua Josephs commits to Tenn.
Man this is a really weird cycle. I know these guys just got hired, but they have had their foot in the door on so many recruits, and they just slipped away.
November 22nd, 2021 at 6:56 PM ^
Winning matters.. except when it doesn't.
Relationships matter... except when they don't.
One game doesn't decide where a recruit goes... except when it does.
Academics matter...except when they don't.
... be interested to hear the spin we get out of Sam on this one.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:20 PM ^
What spin, he said last week on the recruiting roundup Michigan was trailing. I'm not sure what you guys want from a recruiting reporter. He gets info and disseminates as best he can without jeopardizing relationships.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:48 PM ^
But its so much easier to just complain about Sam and get points on the internet.
November 22nd, 2021 at 9:23 PM ^
Heavy emphasis on those last 3 words... particularly when it comes to the coaching staff and that kinda access comes with strings attached.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^
Our player avg recruit rating of 88.13 is #22 for this class. That’s disappointing.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:07 PM ^
Recruiting under this staff is underwhelming. Not sure why as there should be several strong recruiters on the staff.(Clinkscale,Hart, Moore, JayBaugh, Gattis). I have questions about MacDonald and Helow.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:22 PM ^
It's hard to judge this new staff when it's literally been covid their entire time here. I do not at all know exact restrictions, but I know scouting has been impacted, so you have to give them more than a year. 2023 will be a telling year for them. It starts with Dante moore.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:44 PM ^
More Covid cases in Michigan than at any other time and yet places are open and the big house is filled
funny when it isn’t an election year Covid doesn’t matter to the press or fans
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^
Get out of here with this bullshit.
The vast majority of students at those games are vaccinated now.
Cases are spiking among the unvaccinated who also mostly decline to wear masks.
It's been two years of COVID and a year and a half of vaccine availability. Life for the vaccinated has gone mostly back to normal, which is what the COVID non-believers wanted.
So what's the problem, snowflake?
November 22nd, 2021 at 9:20 PM ^
If you think cases are spiking because of the unvaccinated you are delusional. I and everyone in my family was fully vaxxed and we all got it. And I know a ton of others as well.
November 22nd, 2021 at 9:52 PM ^
Are you all in the hospital and the ICU? Because that is the real cost of the spiking cases - again overwhelming our hospitals - not people getting flu-like symptoms. COVID cases that are nerfed by the vaccine into something like a cold is sort of the point of a vaccine, other than outright preventing you from getting sick.
The overwhelming majority of people getting sick enough to have to have a stay in the ICU are the unvaccinated. People are still wearing masks and practicing social distancing to "protect" the people who *still* haven't been vaccinated.
No delusions here - I am tired of people bitching about the vaccine, and then bitching about things going back to normal, which is what they wanted in the first place.
November 22nd, 2021 at 11:01 PM ^
Well, since you asked. Yes, I personally know of 2 people hospitalized, fully vaxxed. Ive been very pro vaccine from the start, but it’s obvious they aren’t as effective as they hoped for.
November 22nd, 2021 at 11:30 PM ^
Now go do some research and compare the rate of hospitalization and death of the breakthrough cases vs unvaccinated in the new cases in Michigan.
Spoiler: pretty big difference in rates. Also, vaccine effectiveness decreases over time, and variants also decrease immuity, which is why boosters exist.
My fault for engaging people who are whining just to whine.
November 23rd, 2021 at 12:55 AM ^
I personally know of at least 6 people who went to the hospital for covid, 3 for an extended stay, who were all vaxxed. I don't know of anyone who went to the hospital in that time period for covid who was unvaxxed. Yes, I know it happens, but from my perspective in my acquaintance network it's all vaxxed people.
The stats I saw from the CDC a week ago showed the hospitalization rate for vaxxed was higher than un-vaxxed. People have to keep getting boosters because they wear off. If you care to look it up, Fauci himself admitted this is the case a week ago.
But hey, not beating OSU but otherwise doing OK is now routine. I guess we'll have to live with that, I don't know who we can get that can build a machine like OSU at UM.
November 23rd, 2021 at 8:28 AM ^
Your "personal experience" of six vaccinated people is not a good sample size. Congrats for using words to create real sentences even if they are full of half truths and bullshit.
November 23rd, 2021 at 11:20 AM ^
You did not see those stats from the CDC. Here is what the CDC says today:
- For all adults aged 18 years and older, the cumulative COVID-19-associated hospitalization rate was about 9 times higher in unvaccinated persons.
Those numbers didn’t flip that dramatically since you “saw them” last week.
Why do nut jobs work so hard to lie? If you have some death wish or sadistic personality that leads you to oppose vaccines, just admit it. Or have fun overdosing on your horse medicine.
Also, I guess username checks out, at least in the sense of general douchebaggery.
November 25th, 2021 at 11:48 PM ^
Again, stop with the bullshit and lies.
Straight from the CDC's website. In every recent study, unvaxxed people are more likely to have hospital visits or severe cases than unvaccinated people.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1029-Vaccination-Offers-Higher-Protection.html
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7046a4.htm
"The crude mortality rate among unvaccinated persons (0.43 per 1,000) was sevenfold higher than that among fully vaccinated persons (0.06)."
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:15 PM ^
Sure thing, Tucker. Or are you Hannity?
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:25 PM ^
Eat a bag of d*
November 23rd, 2021 at 12:58 AM ^
I would've thought on a UM board we could talk like adults. Guess not.
November 23rd, 2021 at 11:40 AM ^
First of all, why on earth would you think that?
Second, inflammatory, political commentary is far worse that the bag of d* comment. Its purposeful to elicit a reaction, and I complied.
Now, leave me alone, I have to talk to the Vaccine Alexa implanted in my arm so she can play some tunes.
November 23rd, 2021 at 2:40 AM ^
It’s almost as if there’s a free, safe and effective vaccine vaccine available to everyone. Things change
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:18 PM ^
Exactly what question you have and based on what evidence? Also, I've noticed that you do not think highly of the guy who has turned this defense around with basically with the same players from 2019 and 2020. Again, what is your evidence. Are you an expert X&O person or are you basing it on nonexistence evidence?
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:56 PM ^
My question is based upon him not landing a single top recruit. His recruiting chops are very much unproven.
The defense was fine in 2019. It fell off last year. It’s a quality defense, but not exactly dominant.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:12 PM ^
Knoxville is a pretty cool place but I’m just confused.
Tennessee has been a clown show for so long with no end in sight.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:17 PM ^
And Michigan is how much better?
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:28 PM ^
Tenn is 5–6.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^
10-1
how's that for 'better'?
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:31 PM ^
Michigan is 10-1. Tennessee is not and has been below average for a long time. Does that help? Do you want stats? Next question.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:33 PM ^
In the last 6 years, Tennessee has won 35 games, has had 3 losing seasons, and maxed out at 8 wins once.
In that same period, Michigan won 49 games, has one losing season, and won 10 games 3 times.
So, Michigan has been over two games better than Tennessee every year since this kid was in the 6th grade.
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:07 PM ^
Man, do you follow college football at all outside of Michigan?
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:26 PM ^
Tennessee is intruiging. They've shown a spark this year under Heupel and should end the season at 7-5. They should've beaten Pitt and Ole Miss, and for 3 quarters held Alabama to a close game.
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:11 PM ^
Tennessee’s coaches thought Joe Milton was a better option than Hooker, and it’s very clear that Hooker is a superior QB in every way possible
November 23rd, 2021 at 8:22 AM ^
Well our coaches thought Joe Milton was the best QB on our roster last offseason…that argument doesn’t work in our favor!
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:47 PM ^
This is a weird one. You'd think EDGE recruiting would've gotten a boost from having two likely first-rounders at the position. Bummer of a recruiting loss
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:50 PM ^
With the new portal rules giving greater freedom of movement, I wonder if these sort of signings may not have the same effect in the past.
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:54 PM ^
But does he follow the TN staff to Oklahoma after Riley bolts to LSU?
November 22nd, 2021 at 10:19 PM ^
Lincoln would be the worlds biggest fool to leave Oklahoma for LSU. No way he makes that jump
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:56 PM ^
When the staff started to press Ethan Burke, that kind of showed they knew they needed to find another recruit to replace JJ
Burke is an intriguing story and a kid that seems to have some real potential that can be developed
November 22nd, 2021 at 7:58 PM ^
For some kids, winning doesn't seem to matter. See Texas as an example
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:00 PM ^
Sam said about 2 weeks ago that at one point in time Michigan was his leader but at that point he thought Tennessee had the edge with Kentucky running third. Then about a week ago the ballz started trickling in for Tennessee and I pretty much wrote him off after the first one.
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:05 PM ^
Imagine passing on a football program that has about half a dozen players at your position in the NFL right now, and will have a few more before you see the field in college
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:08 PM ^
The negative recruiting has been something I'd assume has been a factor with kids all year
The "allure" of the SEC is hard for southern kids to pass up. Tennessee has been a dumpster fire for the past several years but Heupel brings hope and a 7-5 season this year, assuming they beat Vanderbilt
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:11 PM ^
What is it about Tennessee that have so many guys at the top of their list with UM? Add to that the guys that transferred from UM to Tenn...it is odd.
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:17 PM ^
From what I understand Milton and Mohan both are riding the bench in Knoxville. Addition by subtraction?
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:19 PM ^
No need to despair. Once he realizes it sucks his freshman year he can just transfer to us.
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:31 PM ^
Except his credits won’t transfer so we will have to wait till he graduates
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:38 PM ^
this is another problem Michigan needs to fix.
November 22nd, 2021 at 10:55 PM ^
Perfect timing as Schlissel gtfo.
November 22nd, 2021 at 8:20 PM ^
The more I see us not hitting on these 4 stars and losing out to the UT’s of the world who haven’t been good since Fulmer left, the more I don’t believe the “our 2-4 record is why we don’t get recruits this year” excuse. It’s NIL, and there is something we aren’t doing that, especially those in the SEC, are likely taking major advantage of.