Lakeyale13

January 18th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^

Hold on to your horses my friend.  Remember we just lost to South Carolina and Brandon Peters' performance was fairly wretched.  Until we actually beat OSU, without an interim coach, we "Are what we are" as Bill Parcells would put it.  

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BassDude138

January 19th, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^

You are right, close games don't mean anything when they are still losses. However, I still laugh when people use the recent record to say "it isn't a rivalry." Using that logic, it hasn't been a rivalry in over 30 years since Michigan dominated the series before this current run that OSU is on. Not to mention the fact that those fans down there are a little too obsessed all year round about a team that isn't a rival.

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buckeyejonross

January 19th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^

It's 58-50-6, you can not count 2010, but it happened. My point was Michigan started off 13-0-2 by 1919, and then grew the margin to 19-3-2 by 1927. Michigan hasn't "dominated" the series since then. No one has dominated the series since then. It's been slightly OSU since they notched their first win in 1919. Michigan football had an 11 year head start on OSU and a 13 game series buffer before OSU football was anything other than a mid-major, and that advantage is slowly dwindling now that the schools have equal resources. Don't talk to me about history, unless you're ready to talk about history. It's not 1904. I wouldn't imagine the trend of the last 100 years is going to change anytime soon.

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evenyoubrutus

January 19th, 2018 at 2:04 PM ^

You serious man? Bo won the series against Woodie and was 11-9-1 overall, then Michigan dominated, losing only twice in 13 years. Prior to 2001 it was going on a 30+ year period in which Michigan was the solid favorite in the series. Prior to that OSU had an almost 2 decade run of dominance. That is pretty much the story of this rivalry. Most of the time it's one team dominating the other for long stretches. It's also incredible to think that when the series got to 100 games in 2003, OSU had only won 35 games. That's quite a lead Michigan had in the series. Just imagine if the roles reverse again, as history dictates they tend to do.

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His Dudeness

January 18th, 2018 at 7:55 PM ^

This. I live in Louisville. The OSU fans are plentiful. They don't even really consider it a rivalry anymore. Their rivals are whichever team they play in the CFP at this point. We need more than one win in the next few years to get this back to normal. We are to them what State is to us. Although State has kind of ramped up the rivalry lately. This sucks.

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BeatIt

January 19th, 2018 at 5:43 AM ^

Buckeye fans you know but the “Game” will always be the most anticipated game for me every year. Mainly because when we do lose it will be painful. Don’t get me wrong, big games against elite national teams are exciting as well but the rivalry will always be #1 for me.

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DHughes5218

January 18th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^

It wasn't the coaches, current players, or a bunch of fans that said it. It was one 18 year old recruit from New York. He doesn't remember the 80`s or 90's because he wasn't alive yet. Since he's been watching we`ve beaten them once. Kids his age that didn't grow up in Big ten country probably don't see it the way we do. 

I live in Columbus and everyone here still considers it a rivalry. The only difference is instead of people yelling Fuck Michigan at me, they want to ask me about Harbaugh first. 

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DairyQueen

January 18th, 2018 at 10:36 PM ^

Exactly, and Harvard has a better school than Northwestern, so should the Wildcats want to be more like Fair Harvard?

There are diminishing returns in each succession towards the top. UM is both an exceptionally talented atheltics school as well as an exceptionally talented academic school. The distinction is in striving for both. (now only if UM could do something about the art school). It's about striving to be the best in all aspects.

The American ideal is not "happiness" but the "pursuit of happiness", the distinction is crucial.

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BoFlex

January 19th, 2018 at 11:40 PM ^

Really, the only objective measure we have to go by are college rankings done by publications like Princeton Review or US News, which both have Northwestern ranked above Michigan.

For example, on US News' ranking Michigan is the 28th ranked university in the US while Northwestern sits at 11th. Michigan does have the distinction of being the 4th ranked PUBLIC university, but Ohio State is not far behind then at the 16th ranked.

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Lakeyale13

January 18th, 2018 at 10:06 PM ^

Football results are what the vast majority of Michigan fans care about.  Period.  Taking pride in Michigan's academic prestige is nice, but way overated in the real world.  Beleive it or not, but you can go to OSU (and many other schools far less "prestigous" than Michigan) and make one heck of a living.  

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VicTorious1

January 18th, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^

Alums care a lot about the academics? Really? Most of my friends who went to UM with me cared about the academics when applying and have a vested interest in the university remaining prestigious. However, none of us sit around talking about whether Ross or the law school moved up or down in the current year rankings. What we do talk about is how UM football and basketball are doing.

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dragonchild

January 19th, 2018 at 7:03 AM ^

Sorry, Alabama-wannabes, but Michigan is Michigan because it has a huge number of alumni, and among them, those who care about academics are not going to go away.  Ever.  Stop bitching about it already and accept it, because if you don't, there really isn't any reason not to just start wearing red and scream "Roll Tide" -- or even "O-H-I-O", for that matter.  You want a team that ain't there to play school, there are plenty to choose from.

From our side, there's room enough for both.  If you don't care about the academics and just want to root for maize & blue laundry, fine, whatever.  What I don't get is why there's any emotional investment in a program whose identity is heavily based on academics, and then some lobbying to turn it into just another Alabama.  Thankfully, the idea that Michigan will go full SEC on academics won't gain any traction in my lifetime, and likely well beyond that, but it's obnoxious just the same.  Academics is way more important than football in life and this country is already saturated with anti-intellectual nitwits and here we have trollerific idiots who'd see a Top-20 university razed just so they can root for people they've never met whose entire emotional investment is the color of their shirt, succeed against a bunch of other people they've never met wearing a different colored shirt.  It's childish and staggeringly petty.

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