Jeremy Ruckert: "I don't know why they call [Ohio State - Michigan] A Rivalry."
January 18th, 2018 at 7:42 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 7:42 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 7:50 PM ^
You mean....
January 18th, 2018 at 8:09 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 10:21 PM ^
Hold on to your horses my friend. Remember we just lost to South Carolina and Brandon Peters' performance was fairly wretched. Until we actually beat OSU, without an interim coach, we "Are what we are" as Bill Parcells would put it.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:15 AM ^
I get the 'results', however, has this kid watched a Michigan-Ohio State game in his lifetime? aside from 2015, these have all been fairly close games since Urban took over. Hopefully, this is a 'foot in mouth' moment for him.
January 19th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^
Remind me how some of the games being "close" challenges Jeremy's premise? Whether the games were close, OT, or blowouts...it doesnt' change one ounce the validity of his statement.
January 19th, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^
You are right, close games don't mean anything when they are still losses. However, I still laugh when people use the recent record to say "it isn't a rivalry." Using that logic, it hasn't been a rivalry in over 30 years since Michigan dominated the series before this current run that OSU is on. Not to mention the fact that those fans down there are a little too obsessed all year round about a team that isn't a rival.
January 19th, 2018 at 12:17 PM ^
If by "current run" you mean since 1919 and onward, then yea.
January 19th, 2018 at 1:48 PM ^
All time Michigan 58-49-6.
OSU on its biggest run in the series, yes, but right before this was an 11-1-1 run by Michigan.
Those who are full of shit and know nothing about history are doomed to be Buckeye fans.
January 19th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^
It's 58-50-6, you can not count 2010, but it happened. My point was Michigan started off 13-0-2 by 1919, and then grew the margin to 19-3-2 by 1927. Michigan hasn't "dominated" the series since then. No one has dominated the series since then. It's been slightly OSU since they notched their first win in 1919. Michigan football had an 11 year head start on OSU and a 13 game series buffer before OSU football was anything other than a mid-major, and that advantage is slowly dwindling now that the schools have equal resources. Don't talk to me about history, unless you're ready to talk about history. It's not 1904. I wouldn't imagine the trend of the last 100 years is going to change anytime soon.
January 19th, 2018 at 2:04 PM ^
January 19th, 2018 at 9:11 AM ^
the death threats from his own fans should clear this all up for him.
January 18th, 2018 at 7:43 PM ^
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January 18th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^
"We are to them what State is to us."
This seems like a terrible analogy given our recent record against State.
January 19th, 2018 at 5:43 AM ^
January 19th, 2018 at 2:19 PM ^
So they painstakingly avoid using the letter M in everything they do but it's not a rivalry, huh? Good to know.
January 18th, 2018 at 8:16 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 8:40 PM ^
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January 18th, 2018 at 8:59 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 10:12 PM ^
It wasn't the coaches, current players, or a bunch of fans that said it. It was one 18 year old recruit from New York. He doesn't remember the 80`s or 90's because he wasn't alive yet. Since he's been watching we`ve beaten them once. Kids his age that didn't grow up in Big ten country probably don't see it the way we do.
I live in Columbus and everyone here still considers it a rivalry. The only difference is instead of people yelling Fuck Michigan at me, they want to ask me about Harbaugh first.
January 19th, 2018 at 9:45 AM ^
I don't think this can be said enough. These rivalry series have and will continue to swing strangely at times.
January 19th, 2018 at 11:34 AM ^
This kid wasn't alive in 2000. He knows nothing of the 1990s. Still no excuse to make such an ignorant comment.
January 18th, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
Well seeing as how the refs had to help them win the game last year, OSU fans obviously see the imporance of The Game.
January 18th, 2018 at 7:44 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 7:45 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 8:23 PM ^
a little bit connected, even now. Archaic viewpoint, I understand.
January 18th, 2018 at 7:59 PM ^
What's the point? Northwestern is a better school than Michigan, but does that mean we want Michigan football to be at their level...
January 18th, 2018 at 10:36 PM ^
Exactly, and Harvard has a better school than Northwestern, so should the Wildcats want to be more like Fair Harvard?
There are diminishing returns in each succession towards the top. UM is both an exceptionally talented atheltics school as well as an exceptionally talented academic school. The distinction is in striving for both. (now only if UM could do something about the art school). It's about striving to be the best in all aspects.
The American ideal is not "happiness" but the "pursuit of happiness", the distinction is crucial.
January 19th, 2018 at 1:37 AM ^
January 19th, 2018 at 9:35 AM ^
January 19th, 2018 at 11:40 PM ^
Really, the only objective measure we have to go by are college rankings done by publications like Princeton Review or US News, which both have Northwestern ranked above Michigan.
For example, on US News' ranking Michigan is the 28th ranked university in the US while Northwestern sits at 11th. Michigan does have the distinction of being the 4th ranked PUBLIC university, but Ohio State is not far behind then at the 16th ranked.
January 18th, 2018 at 8:28 PM ^
god i am so sick of this crap. who gives a flying fuck about academics? none of us. this is about football games, which is something this program has been average at best for the past fifteen years.
January 18th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^
January 18th, 2018 at 10:06 PM ^
Football results are what the vast majority of Michigan fans care about. Period. Taking pride in Michigan's academic prestige is nice, but way overated in the real world. Beleive it or not, but you can go to OSU (and many other schools far less "prestigous" than Michigan) and make one heck of a living.
January 18th, 2018 at 10:10 PM ^
I think that you are right. Alums care a lot about the academics, but your typical fan doesn't really know anything about it, other than "they say Michigan is a good school."
January 18th, 2018 at 11:30 PM ^
January 19th, 2018 at 11:59 AM ^
those of us who went to the law school and/or Ross do ...
January 19th, 2018 at 9:48 AM ^
One of the great things about Michigan is that you can have both. A great football program and Apollo 15.
January 19th, 2018 at 7:03 AM ^
Sorry, Alabama-wannabes, but Michigan is Michigan because it has a huge number of alumni, and among them, those who care about academics are not going to go away. Ever. Stop bitching about it already and accept it, because if you don't, there really isn't any reason not to just start wearing red and scream "Roll Tide" -- or even "O-H-I-O", for that matter. You want a team that ain't there to play school, there are plenty to choose from.
From our side, there's room enough for both. If you don't care about the academics and just want to root for maize & blue laundry, fine, whatever. What I don't get is why there's any emotional investment in a program whose identity is heavily based on academics, and then some lobbying to turn it into just another Alabama. Thankfully, the idea that Michigan will go full SEC on academics won't gain any traction in my lifetime, and likely well beyond that, but it's obnoxious just the same. Academics is way more important than football in life and this country is already saturated with anti-intellectual nitwits and here we have trollerific idiots who'd see a Top-20 university razed just so they can root for people they've never met whose entire emotional investment is the color of their shirt, succeed against a bunch of other people they've never met wearing a different colored shirt. It's childish and staggeringly petty.
January 19th, 2018 at 8:27 AM ^
It's Academics first, Football second.
Our Great University has produced a SIGNIFICANT amount of contributors to the world than they have "Football Players". It's about being Great. Being a part of the Leaders and Best.