It’s time to stop scheduling MSU

So if we’re going to say it’s time to make things happen which will never, ever happen.  Do we get to go all out like: “It’s time for burgers to have the calories of a carrot.”

or

”It’s time for all IPA recipes to burn in hell where they belong.”

I mean if we’re going with pie in the sky wish lists, may as well go for the gold…

Agree.  Sick of this game.  As you say…all downside and no upside for us.  Meaningless in the grand scheme.  Let it go and let’s move on and avoid getting dragged into the mud for a week each year

I would bet if you said this to the players you would be met with a resounding no, even after the tunnel incident. 

This is a dumb idea. We’re not ditching our #2 rival

As conferences grow larger and the game is transitioning to a professional-style playoff format, scheduling becomes more crucial.

Rivalry games aren't compatible with this concept, unless you go to small divisions. And that means rarely playing other schools. That's bad enough as it is (Purdue last visited Ann Arbor in 2011 - and you'd think they'd benefit from playing games near a real medical facility).

This would have been unthinkable 20 years ago, but I don't think there's room for more than one rivalry game. And that rival is Ohio State, not the technical college that replaced Chicago in the '50s. This game means far more to them than it does to us.

I kind of agree, i agree with the other poster who said that they hate this game. There is literally no upside, if we win, well MSU is a middling team not a great win, we might as well have beaten a Minnesota or Northwestern. were running up the score, were classless  waahhh waaaa waaa . And if we lose ohhhh boy, they literally want to assult our fans and players its disgusting. They hate us tooo much.  . And were subjected to just some nasty trash talking and vitriol all year ohhh MSU is better than U , we should hurt their players and all sorts of nasty drama type stuff. I wouldnt mind at all if we played them every other year. F that football team

Rivalries are supposed to be fun. Yet rather than be happy for a 22 point domination that could (should?) have been even worse, I’m really upset about how MSU acted after losing. They’re *lucky* that a broken nose was the worst damage they did, because from the videos I’ve seen it could have been far far worse. 

This is not fun. It’s dangerous. And it’s worse now - used to be just terrible shit they’d do during games, but since Dantonio led that pregame line march through Michigan players warming up, it’s been taken to an even more dangerous level than “twists a guys helmet 90 degrees after the play is over”. This is the culmination of that toxic culture that was harvested first by Dantonio. I can’t tell if Mel is leaning into it or simply lost all control of the program, but he deserves a bunch of blame on this and should be considered to be fired depending on how they treat this situation right now (I expect at minimum a bunch of suspensions and a few players kicked off the team and school)
 

Their program needs a hard reset. I want an instate rival that isn’t violent and makes this a life or death thing. It’s just a game, damnit. Why are they always so fuckinh ANGRY at us? Like Jesus Christ they have fans justifying the violence because a Michigan player was SKIPPING NEXT TO THEM FOR A HALF A SECOND. How dare he! 

I do find the rivalry fairly joyless and it certainly is a lot more hostile than 20-30 years ago.  

Relegate the green and white to the MAC. 

I'd sign a petition to do this. De-emphasize the rivalry. They need us much more than we need them. In fact, as they have sunk in funding woes and scandal, basketball and football have been, increasingly, what they have to build self-esteem on. Let them get back to the harder work of rebuilding the institution. 

A more probable and practical solution may be to stop scheduling MSU for night games , both at home or away. These most recent incidents aside, the odds of riff-raff may be lower. I was really hoping PSU would have been the night game. 

I'd be down with it, but there is too much political pressure to keep playing them.  

They never should have been allowed in the conference in the first place. OSU, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Iowa all successfully lobbied against any other in-state schools from joining, and PSU later did the same against Pitt, but we had to allow Sparty in.  We've never been very good at playing politics.

To be honest, we should be playing Minnesota every year. It's the oldest trophy-based rivalry in college football. "The little brown jug" started it all. Move MSU to every even year and schedule Minnesota every year. Plus, P.J. is actually a good coach. It will be a better game. 

I agree with you. Fuck em. If this actually happens, they become less relevant  more so than they already are.  losers 

my 6 year old son playing pee-wee hockey has thicker skin than anyone who has even been involved with that program. 
 

Clowns. Jokes. Morons. All the words to describe a giant pile of garbage. 
 

I’d really love to dump them into oblivion. They are nothing without UM. It’s their whole reason for existence. Just cut them out citing player safety concerns (they are future million-dollar athletes after-all) and let them fade into the irrelevance that they should be.

This is the only game on the schedule that I take zero joy in watching every year. For one, I always expect some juju BS to happen that MSU just lucks into.

But for two, you can tell that when MSU lines up opposite Michigan, there is at least one player out there who’s aiming to hurt someone. Whether it’s Gholston trying to essentially break Denard’s neck in a sanctioned act of “necessary roughness” by their fucking DC, Panasiuk drilling Shea in the back well after the play is over, an MSU OL throwing Joe Bolden into one of his own teammates in a pile, or last night’s incident which probably takes the cake out of everything, every year there just seems to be a threat of violence beyond what is accepted on the field. And you’ve got a coaching staff that at best, can’t control its players actions or, at worst, condones and encourages all of it. 

I hate playing MSU. There is no joy to be taken from it, win or loss. I’d be okay with them being off the schedule. 

This is realistically just a tiny step away from everything dantonio already had his players doing, and what he built into the dna of their program. He went out of his way to stoke this, including intent to injure on the field,  and even orchestrated bush league physical confrontations between the teams. I do think a break in scheduling is an appropriate response to these indefensible acts. This has no place in our, or any, schedule, and time apart could actually do good to give their program time to reflect, and allow changes to be put in place.  I honestly expect next year to have carry over, no matter what happens.

I’d love it if they were out of the B1G. It’s not going to happen, but I’d be glad to just never see them again. 

Perhaps the dream of some of the posters here ….. but I’d guess it is 1000x more likely that instead you get something like the 2005 South Carolina-Clemson pregame (the teams having a handshake prior to the game) versus any cancellation.

Hell no. This is weak sauce. Play them and beat the hell out of them.

Do it

Agree with this.  There is no reason to force this rivalry on us at this point.

I would rather see UM play literally anyone else as long as they want continue to act like thugs.