Iowa game time: Possible spoiler?
On the most recent edition of the Audible podcast with Stewart Mandel, Bruce Feldman said it was possible the Big Noon crew was going to see Michigan “maybe four weeks in a row.” Obviously we’ve gotten clarity on the Maryland game already. But more fuel for the “Not Kinnick at night” fire.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:51 AM ^
Highly ranked vastly superior Michigan team up 10-0 over Iowa at Kinnick, I remember feeling confident in that situation before ...
September 13th, 2022 at 12:07 PM ^
#TOO SOON!
September 13th, 2022 at 12:09 PM ^
Taking a win at Kinnick for granted, as many seem to be here, feels absolutely insane to me. I love JJ but it will (presumably) be his first road start in a very hostile stadium against a lights-out DC in Phil Parker
IDK how anyone can extrapolate an easy win from the first two weeks, where Michigan played 11 cardboard cutouts and Iowa does what they do every year, play close games against literally everyone
September 13th, 2022 at 12:15 PM ^
I agree. Sure their offense is a tire fire, but we've seen both Ferentzs break character and be a bit more aggressive against us before. It will also by a very large margin be the best defense we've faced all season. I think we win, but that D will be a real test for JJ.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:25 PM ^
Yeah, last year's championship was a nail-biter. Went right down to the wire. Very close.
September 13th, 2022 at 2:54 PM ^
It was 14-3 in the 3rd quarter and 21-3 in the 4th. No it wasn't a nail biter but we weren't scoring at will and a little bit of weirdness makes that an uncomfortable one-score game. Also different at Kinnick vs an NFL turf stadium.
Don't get me wrong, loved the result, but I'm not expecting 42-3 just because Iowa has their usual terrible offense thus far
September 13th, 2022 at 5:02 PM ^
42-3 seems highly improbable, agreed. I'd expect a closer game.
Even with the Kinnick atmosphere, though, I think it will take multiple screw-ups (pick six, a fumbled kick/punt or two, etc.) for Iowa to win.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:52 PM ^
in a very hostile stadium
It remains to be seen whether that is hostility toward Michigan or toward their own coaching staff.
September 13th, 2022 at 6:22 PM ^
Agreed if you are in the 17-23 pt range near the end of a game where the other defense is playing lights out you are always in danger. A punt return, fumble, pick or any other strange thing can lead to easy points to make up that score.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:40 AM ^
The more I see of Iowa this year the less I'm concerned about playing at Kinnick, regardless of the kickoff time
September 13th, 2022 at 11:40 AM ^
I think night is less likely also given they have 2 straight night games before us as well.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:43 AM ^
I'm not sure the announcers could make it through an Iowa night game without falling asleep
September 13th, 2022 at 11:44 AM ^
Leave nothing to chance. This needs to be a swift ass-whooping Nooner.
September 13th, 2022 at 1:08 PM ^
Giggity
September 13th, 2022 at 11:45 AM ^
if we go up 10-0 in the first and lay off we'll end up winning 10-9.....
I'd rather we go up 24-0 in the 1st half, let the 2nd string play 3rd qtr.... then, if we're up by at least as much, 3rd string can have the 4th qtr.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:46 AM ^
Iowa is going to be coming off a loss at Rutgers so they might be pretty fired up.
But honestly, looking at the schedule, what else would they take? Purdue at Minnesota, maybe? That might be for all the marbles in the West.
I don't think Michigan will be Big Noon four weeks in a row though. MSU would have to crap the bed pretty substantially for Fox not to take OSU at MSU, and Michigan at Indiana does not scream Big Game in week 6.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:53 AM ^
yeah Purdue at Minnesota should be a great game. If Brohm knew how to finish a game that could have been an undefeated ranked matchup.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:56 AM ^
what's the over/under on gallons of sweat off Mel's head for that osu game?
September 13th, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
95 million?
September 13th, 2022 at 12:25 PM ^
I'm thinking just the opposite. If Iowa is coming off a loss to Rutgers, just stick a fork in them - they're done. That will totally deflate that program. I honestly thought we'd have 3 tough games game before the season - Iowa, MSU and OSU. - in that order of difficulty. Now, switch PSU for Iowa. I think we ROLL the Hawkeyes
September 13th, 2022 at 3:02 PM ^
For whatever reason, if Iowa loses to Rutgers it makes me *more* concerned for the Michigan game. That's just how they are. I remember 2016 when they had just come off a 41-14 loss to Penn St - a team Michigan had beaten 49-10 - and won on some bullshit at Kinnick. That Iowa team had also lost to an FCS team earlier in the season (a good one, but still...)
September 13th, 2022 at 11:49 AM ^
Please please please be noon game, I have a wedding that day.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:11 PM ^
Please please please be afternoon or night.
I am driving up from Kansas City (4.5 hours). Otherwise I have to drive into Des Moines Friday night and head out at 8 AM (1.45 hours) Saturday.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^
I just pictured you winding up as the guy in the Allstate commercial.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:54 AM ^
Iowa really misses Charlie Jones, their top playmaker who transferred to Purdue. So far this season he is averaging 143 receiving yards, 10.5 receptions, 13.6 yards per reception, and 2 TD’s per game. He was also Iowa’s best return specialist on special teams. For anemic offenses like Iowa’s, the loss of your star producer is a death sentence.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:07 PM ^
You mean Chuck Sizzle? Can't blame him for transferring.
2021 @ Iowa: 21 Receptions for 323 yards and 3 TDs for the full 14 game season
2022 @ Purdue: 21 Receptions for 286 yards and 4 TDs.............in two games.
That dude should sue Brian Ferentz for malpractice or something
September 13th, 2022 at 12:12 PM ^
I call Charlie SIZZLE Jones - Tim Dwight Junior to pizz off my Iowa friend.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:56 AM ^
If Iowa State can run 21 plays in 12 minutes at Iowa, Michigan can run 1 play per half and eat up the clock. Just run the clock down , have them go 3 & out, the half is over.
September 13th, 2022 at 11:57 AM ^
Y'all need to chill. Michigan could play at Kinnick at noon, 5pm, 9pm or 330am it doesn't matter. Michigan wins by 20. Stop believing in this black magic voodoo shit. They are a terrible terrible team
September 13th, 2022 at 12:02 PM ^
It's a personal voodoo. Lol
September 13th, 2022 at 12:29 PM ^
It's not hard to imagine tough sledding against their defense, but expecting them to handily score against ours seems crazy, as does expecting their defense to get multiple scores.
September 13th, 2022 at 7:21 PM ^
They are a terrible team from what we can see, but Iowa has this uncanny ability to play up to its competition or down to it. Especially at home.
Iowa, from what we’ve seen so far, only beats Michigan if Michigan plays an awful game. Bad turnovers giving Iowa short fields, missed tackles, bad, conservative playcalling that allows Iowa’s defense to tee off, etc. But it’ll be their first game away from Ann Arbor this year, in a hostile environment against a good defense. They’ll have things they need to prove too.
On paper, Michigan should crush these guys. But stranger things have happened in this game, and Iowa is a very strange place to play. They’ve knocked off top-5 OSU, Michigan and PSU teams there just in the last 5-6 years alone.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:00 PM ^
Sometimes parents do their children a disservice by trying too hard to help them. Having said that, Brian Ferentz is making a lot of money, and if that is the only objective, he is a success. By any other metric I can think of he is an abject failure.
Now maybe he would have been a failure anyway, but without daddy's presence, he would have been more likely get criticism, perhaps even be fired and have the opportunity to learn and grow from his mistakes.
September 13th, 2022 at 1:26 PM ^
Username checks out.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
4 weeks in a row — wouldn’t that mean the Penn State is at noon? Would be a shame to waste our Maize Out on a noon game
September 13th, 2022 at 12:38 PM ^
I highly doubt that Fox has all three of the Iowa, PSU, and MSU games. I think Stewart is just talking without having any information. ESPN is likely getting at least one of those games. Iowa being bad actually hurts our chances of this being a noon game. Fox might go with a ranked Baylor-Ok St matchup for Big Noon instead.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:01 PM ^
Thank the Lord. Their magic is gone and the Ferentzs have become offensive Ferrets.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:05 PM ^
It isn't far fetched to see Rutgers beating Iowa next week and the Hawkeyes being 2-2. I expect an offensive explosion in the way of a 13-3 victory over Nevada this week.
Fox and Big Noon takes the Oklahoma St vs Baylor game (rematch of the great Big 12 championship game of last year).
CBS takes Bama vs Arkansas in the 3:30 slot
ABC takes Clemson vs NC St
ESPN primetime will unfortunately be Kinnick @ night: Michigan @ Iowa.
September 13th, 2022 at 8:11 PM ^
I think the ESPN primetime games are usually reserved for the SEC…in that case I wouldn’t be shocked if the Michigan/Iowa game is a 3:30 ABC game & ESPN take the Kentucky/Ole Miss game for their primetime slot
September 13th, 2022 at 12:08 PM ^
Who cares? Play it at night and kick them right in the curses. There is no way in hell that offense is scoring more than 17 against Michigan (I don't think they'll even get that much). And there's no way in hell that Iowa's defense - as good as it may be - can stay in the game long enough to keep UM from scoring 35.
This game will be a rout whenever its played. You have to have an offense to win at modern football, and regardless of what Ferentz may think modern football happens in Iowa City, too...
September 13th, 2022 at 12:15 PM ^
So that would put Penn St at noon (UMD, Iowa, Indiana, Penn St) which means MSU is a night game? I don't know the contract details, but I thought two night games/yr is the general rule now.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:16 PM ^
We know the Big Noon game is up to Fox to decide, but are night games still high in the pecking order? If Iowa loses again before our game, Iowa-Michigan might not be that high of a priority.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:22 PM ^
We beat the brakes off Iowa last year on a neutral field. The same Phil Parker everyone is worried about coached that defense. I don't expect another 39-point win, but I fully expect that Harbaugh remembers 2016...and 1985, and will coach in a way not to repeat those losses.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:34 PM ^
Iowa's about to be ranked 180th out of 131 FBS teams on offense this year. The only possible way they beat anyone with a pulse is by getting turnovers or blocking punts
September 13th, 2022 at 11:44 PM ^
I'm surprised they're ranked that high
September 13th, 2022 at 12:34 PM ^
I'm not scared of Iowa - even at night
September 13th, 2022 at 12:43 PM ^
Iowa's offense is literally stuck in neutral. Some of us Michigan fans think that our offense looked stuck with Cade at the helm so far this year, but Petras at the wheel for Iowa has been true QB malpractice. They lost Tyler Goodson and all B1G center Tyler Lindenbaum to the NFL and both Jones and Tyrone Tracy to Purdue, so both the running and passing games have regressed.
Petras has either gotten worse or simply stayed the same while the skill players around him are worse than last year. Meanwhile Brian Ferentz seemingly has no clue how to begin to compensate for any of those factors. Net result: they can hardly score even when gifted a short field.
I'm certainly not taking the game at Kinnick for granted, especially after being here in 2016 and watching those ridiculous events unfold. But I'm genuinely confident about this year's match up. I think Iowa might very well lose another game before we play them and I suspect JJ will only become a better race car driver at the wheel of our offense in the next few weeks.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:48 PM ^
I plan on paying very close attention to their game at Rutgers in two weeks.
Some offenses can’t cross the street. Iowa’s can’t even reach the curb. AND YET I know they’re going to play better when we come to town. I just do. Bad teams, more often than not, play above their ability against Michigan.
Also, doesn’t the law of averages say they can’t continue this kind of ineptitude every week?
I invite you all to laugh at me if I’m wrong. I hope I am. I’d rather see another 42-3 game.
September 13th, 2022 at 12:50 PM ^
I hope it’s at noon. I have an Airbnb by the stadium for Saturday night and I’d love to cancel it to save the money. A noon game I could get home by midnight.
September 13th, 2022 at 1:17 PM ^
This Ferentz nepotism thing is interesting.
My dad worked for his dad. My grandfather was hard as hell on him because he expected more from his son than any of his other employees. I am certain he would have fired my dad if he wasn’t performing.
In contrast Kirk seems to be soft as hell on Brian. He doesn’t appear to hold him to any sort of expectations. It’s like he doesn’t care that his son is an incompetent boob.