Interesting article on satellite camps, the SEC and Harbaugh from U of Tennessee.

Submitted by Mr Miggle on

No defenses of the SEC and the "N-SEC-AA". I think this ruling will ultimately make both the SEC and NCAA look foolish. It will be interesting to see if it also benefits Harbaugh. He's going to get a lot of favorable press whether he's holding camps or fighting the NCAA. I'll be very surprised if the ban stands in its current form.

http://www.tnjn.com/2016/04/09/harbaugh-sec-draft/ 

evenyoubrutus

April 10th, 2016 at 11:21 AM ^

I think the reason we haven't heard anything from Harbaugh yet is because he's working on finding an alternative or a loophole so that he can still do something similar to satellite camps. He'll definitely think of something. And it really wouldn't surprise me if this rule were overturned in the next year or two. Coaches everywhere are going to start realizing soon how screwed over they are by this.

GoBlueinOhio

April 10th, 2016 at 12:58 PM ^

but this is what i was thinking. Harbaugh changes his contract with UM so that he is only employeed on certain days, ie he has 15 uncontracted days per year. This way he can do as he pleases with the camps, and when he becomes an employee again he can offer them.  I am trying to be quick here as I am at work..

Mr Miggle

April 10th, 2016 at 2:49 PM ^

but there's no way Harbaugh is going to sue the NCAA. Someone else may well do that. There's already a growing PR campaign. It's better to let a chorus speak on your behalf. How often will he get that opportunity?

bacon

April 10th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^

Honestly, I think Harbaugh is just getting ready to destroy the NCAA this year as head coach of the Wolverines.  I don't think he gives a shit about what the SEC or NCAA do. No camps?  More time to dream up crazy ways to destroy his opponents, or out recruit his competition, or some other crazy innovative thing that they haven't banned yet.  I think that all the NCAA/SEC is doing is just poking the bear.  And Harbaugh has his sights on winning.

turd ferguson

April 10th, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^

As maddening as this satellite camps ban is, it could be good for us in the long run.  Harbaugh has basically declared war on the SEC, like he declared war on USC while he was at Stanford.  Even though a lot of people around the country don't love Harbaugh, we're clearly the good guys in a battle against SEC and NCAA hypocrisy, and just playing that role elevates and endears us in people's minds.  That kind of positive attention has benefits, with recruiting being a big part of it.

Blue Palasky_68

April 10th, 2016 at 11:29 AM ^

The beauty of it, is that JH doesn't even have to tweet out or comment on it due to everyone doing it for him. Current student athletes and high school coaches are taking the torch and running with it. JH can sit back and profit right now.

jblaze

April 10th, 2016 at 11:30 AM ^

This press is putting a Michigan team that hasn't won anything (or beat our 2 main rivals in years) on par with the top SEC teams.

The SEC made a huge mistake in looking like they care what Michigan does. They should have not commented or acted like Gene Smith. Their mistake is helping Michigan return to the prime time (as is Harbaugh's recruiting and coaching!).

M-Dog

April 10th, 2016 at 5:13 PM ^

This^.  If I'm a recruit from the south that would normally have no interest in Michigan, I'm now curious what all the non-stop fuss is about.  

I may want to check out Michigan and Harbaugh's program for myself.  

I may like what I see.

 

1VaBlue1

April 10th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^

Harbaugh quickly identified USC as a target to help elevate Stanford, to give them something to work towards.  And it succeeded in spades.  At UM, he has quickly identified the SEC as the embodiment of NCAA hypocrisy, and has targeted them to give UM, and the B1G in general, a common reason to elevate.  He realized that UM is bigger than Stanford, and has ID'd an appropriate target to galvanize the fan base in general, and CFB fans in macro.  The SEC/NCAA fell right into it, just like Pete Carroll did...

CalifExile

April 10th, 2016 at 3:42 PM ^

I would have sworn Michigan beat Florida after losing to OSU and MSU last year. (Obviously, Michigan was the superior team in the MSU game, but it's clear we have a ways to go to match OSU).

OC Alum91

April 10th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^

100% agree. However, this focus puts UM in the national spotlight. In the past we were talked about because 'this is Michigan' (i.e., our history). Now it's about who we are now and what we do now. The things we need to compete nationally will have us prepared to challenge OSU and MSU. I don't think the corollary is necessarily true, I think there is an advantage today to having a national recruiting base.

SMart WolveFan

April 10th, 2016 at 2:57 PM ^

Harbaugh is fighting to spread his love of football and helping kids get opportunities that they might not get otherwise, his success as a coach is completely irrevelant.

If the hypocrites at the SEC want to deny some kids in their own footprint the opportunity to play at top 30 programs, I'm glad Harbaugh is taking them to task. Hopefully this causes less kids to be fans of the SEC.

Mr Miggle

April 10th, 2016 at 5:16 PM ^

Are we supposed to stay out of the news and keep our mouths shut while we're building a contender? Is that how you build a contender? This program is going in the right direction. That's something in and of itself. Part of the reason is the attention we're getting. Recruits aren't all waiting for us to beat OSU and MSU.

Sure, if we never win then the whole exercise was a failure. But that's a deteatist and overly pessimistic way to look at things.

OC Alum91

April 10th, 2016 at 11:48 AM ^

Surprised such an "on point" article came from what appears to be a student publication. Didn't overstate or exaggerate too much, but in some good points. Franklin-Harbaugh comparison shows SEC is afraid. Their words say they don't care, but their actions say otherwise. They are scared of Harbaugh's coaching skill. They are scared to compete. They know Harbaugh can be monomaniacal and indefatigable. Contrary to Sankey's comments and Jones' & Smarts' "we had a plan in place," their actions show they know they would lose a satellite camp arms race with Harbaugh because he is just a little crazy.

LSAClassOf2000

April 10th, 2016 at 11:49 AM ^

If this were a mid-major coach setting up camps in Wyoming or Delaware, they wouldn’t be a blimp on the SEC’s radar. But this is Jim Harbaugh, one of the most recognizable figures in football — a coach who transformed Stanford into a Pac-12 power and the San Francisco 49ers into Super Bowl contenders — and is now thrusting Michigan back into the national spotlight. He's storming the SEC's backyard like the beaches of Normandy on D-Day.

I know we've talked about it before, but it is still something I fully believe - if this is Akron or Marshall or some school on that level, the SEC chuckles to itself. That it is Michigan and Harbaugh and Harbaugh's abilities belies a deep, deep insecurity in the SEC that someone may just be able to bring them down a motch or two, and they are painfully aware Harbaugh probably can do it. 

WolverineHistorian

April 10th, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^

I'm in shock that an SEC guy (a Vol no less) actually told it like it is in that article...that the SEC bitched, cried and stomped their feet until they got their way over keeping Harbaugh away from their easy recruiting advantage.

Mind is so blown. It's on the same level of meeting a classy Buckeye fan, or running into a unicorn. It just doesn't happen.



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MGoSoftball

April 10th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^

read the entire ruling; however, I though I read something about "being employed" by such camps.  Ok then, Harbs and the boys can volunteer their time to help at a camp promoted by IMG.

Better yet, lets get Al Glick to start some camps in Atlanta, Tampa, Mobile, Now Orleans.  Then lets the entire staff come down and help out.  

I really dont see how the NCAA can stop Harbs.  The School or AD does not need to be involved at all.  We have enough Big-Money Donors who would pony-up with $500K to get a few 5-start recruits.

I do not think this ruling will stop Hards in the least.  There is so much wiggle room with the word "employed".  

 

Mr Miggle

April 10th, 2016 at 2:09 PM ^

I don't think it presents a loophole. The rest of the ruling may make things more clear, but the intent of the rule is certainly clear enough. They are banning the satelite camps, not compensation for the coaches.

charblue.

April 10th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^

camps over time to promote whatever program he was supporting as a coach, but the fact is he didn't start doing it when he got to Michigan. The coach has been doing offseason camps and coaching clinics since before he left the NFL. He has been consistent in doing them whether he was working with his brother and dad on behalf of Western Kentucky or whether he was showing high school kids and younger how to throw a football while in his first season as head coach in San Diego.

In other words, he's been an evangelical leader of football coaching on a mission to promote the game and not necessarily to land the best athletes that he comes in contact with to attend his program of interest, even if that does occur. Whether he was promoting the Harbaugh brand or the Michigan block M, he was doing what a lot of coaches don't do in the off-season, and that is continue coaching because he loves it.

The NCAA ruling on Friday was like the Pharisee upholding some law to benefit the entrenched because the practice of running sattellite camps might upset the balance of football trade and power status quo.

Well, this is no different than how Congress is manipulated by lobbyists or how parties seek to deny White House or SC decision-making. And the fact is, that no less three of the head coaches in the SEC used to work in the Big Ten, and got their start coaching in the same mid and lower levels of the game from which they still look to obtain coaches and athletes for their programs, and benefit from these off-year camps. 

And now, they are asking the NCAA to essentially limit the coaching expertise and learning opportunities just like a subsidy support that essentially pays producers not to work. And not even the conference commissioner of the Big Ten sees a reason to rant about it. Well, if he doesn't care about winning, then I guess it doesn't matter.