Interesting article on satellite camps, the SEC and Harbaugh from U of Tennessee.
No defenses of the SEC and the "N-SEC-AA". I think this ruling will ultimately make both the SEC and NCAA look foolish. It will be interesting to see if it also benefits Harbaugh. He's going to get a lot of favorable press whether he's holding camps or fighting the NCAA. I'll be very surprised if the ban stands in its current form.
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but this is what i was thinking. Harbaugh changes his contract with UM so that he is only employeed on certain days, ie he has 15 uncontracted days per year. This way he can do as he pleases with the camps, and when he becomes an employee again he can offer them. I am trying to be quick here as I am at work..
Could be that he is not commenting because he is going to bring a lawsuit against the NCAA.
I know this generates interest for Michigan and recruiting but I believe Harbaugh enjoys doing these camps and he is not going to let them go easily.
but there's no way Harbaugh is going to sue the NCAA. Someone else may well do that. There's already a growing PR campaign. It's better to let a chorus speak on your behalf. How often will he get that opportunity?
Exactly. Sometimes, less is more. It's to Harbaugh's benefit to have this be about the HS players who are hurt by this stupid rule, rather than being about him.
Honestly, I think Harbaugh is just getting ready to destroy the NCAA this year as head coach of the Wolverines. I don't think he gives a shit about what the SEC or NCAA do. No camps? More time to dream up crazy ways to destroy his opponents, or out recruit his competition, or some other crazy innovative thing that they haven't banned yet. I think that all the NCAA/SEC is doing is just poking the bear. And Harbaugh has his sights on winning.
April 10th, 2016 at 11:24 AM ^
"NCAA bans satellite camps because SEC fears Harbaugh"
April 10th, 2016 at 11:26 AM ^
As maddening as this satellite camps ban is, it could be good for us in the long run. Harbaugh has basically declared war on the SEC, like he declared war on USC while he was at Stanford. Even though a lot of people around the country don't love Harbaugh, we're clearly the good guys in a battle against SEC and NCAA hypocrisy, and just playing that role elevates and endears us in people's minds. That kind of positive attention has benefits, with recruiting being a big part of it.
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The SEC made a huge mistake in looking like they care what Michigan does. They should have not commented or acted like Gene Smith. Their mistake is helping Michigan return to the prime time (as is Harbaugh's recruiting and coaching!).
This^. If I'm a recruit from the south that would normally have no interest in Michigan, I'm now curious what all the non-stop fuss is about.
I may want to check out Michigan and Harbaugh's program for myself.
I may like what I see.
April 10th, 2016 at 11:37 AM ^
Harbaugh quickly identified USC as a target to help elevate Stanford, to give them something to work towards. And it succeeded in spades. At UM, he has quickly identified the SEC as the embodiment of NCAA hypocrisy, and has targeted them to give UM, and the B1G in general, a common reason to elevate. He realized that UM is bigger than Stanford, and has ID'd an appropriate target to galvanize the fan base in general, and CFB fans in macro. The SEC/NCAA fell right into it, just like Pete Carroll did...
April 10th, 2016 at 11:40 AM ^
Going after the SEC means nothing if you can't get by MSU or OSU.
April 10th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^
I would have sworn Michigan beat Florida after losing to OSU and MSU last year. (Obviously, Michigan was the superior team in the MSU game, but it's clear we have a ways to go to match OSU).
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April 10th, 2016 at 10:54 PM ^
Here's hoping your correction is accurate. I look forward to finding it's so in November.
April 10th, 2016 at 12:12 PM ^
He's had exactly one chance at each--2015 was his first year. It's not like Saban or Stoops won more than 7 games in their first years, either.
If it continues, then you can complain. Nobody likes it, but change in college football never happens over night.
you're Ole Miss...
April 10th, 2016 at 12:26 PM ^
Can he have more than one attempt? And, say...isn't Florida in the SEC?
April 10th, 2016 at 12:27 PM ^
Harbaugh is fighting to spread his love of football and helping kids get opportunities that they might not get otherwise, his success as a coach is completely irrevelant.
If the hypocrites at the SEC want to deny some kids in their own footprint the opportunity to play at top 30 programs, I'm glad Harbaugh is taking them to task. Hopefully this causes less kids to be fans of the SEC.
All this hype going into next season doesn't mean anything if the team doesn't deliver on the field.
....it delivers the OPPORTUNITY to young men to expand their intellectual capabilities and interests while entertaining the sports fans from the local prefecture.
Unfortunately though, some of those fans are real idiots.
Are we supposed to stay out of the news and keep our mouths shut while we're building a contender? Is that how you build a contender? This program is going in the right direction. That's something in and of itself. Part of the reason is the attention we're getting. Recruits aren't all waiting for us to beat OSU and MSU.
Sure, if we never win then the whole exercise was a failure. But that's a deteatist and overly pessimistic way to look at things.
April 10th, 2016 at 11:38 PM ^
Meh, OSU beat us last year, but i'm not gonna go on with this "we must beat MSU" garbage anymore. In his first year he basically did beat them. Fuck that fluke at the end. 1 down, 1 to go. And that next step will happen this coming season.
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If this were a mid-major coach setting up camps in Wyoming or Delaware, they wouldn’t be a blimp on the SEC’s radar. But this is Jim Harbaugh, one of the most recognizable figures in football — a coach who transformed Stanford into a Pac-12 power and the San Francisco 49ers into Super Bowl contenders — and is now thrusting Michigan back into the national spotlight. He's storming the SEC's backyard like the beaches of Normandy on D-Day.
I know we've talked about it before, but it is still something I fully believe - if this is Akron or Marshall or some school on that level, the SEC chuckles to itself. That it is Michigan and Harbaugh and Harbaugh's abilities belies a deep, deep insecurity in the SEC that someone may just be able to bring them down a motch or two, and they are painfully aware Harbaugh probably can do it.
April 10th, 2016 at 11:51 AM ^
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April 10th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^
The SEC got an up close and personal look at Franklin when he was at Vanderbilt. They know he's no threat.
It sucks to be James Franklin. He invented the term "Satellite Camp" and all anybody can talk about is how Harbaugh came up with the idea.
Dude can't even rob a bank to get attention.
He couldn't even rob a 7-11.
April 10th, 2016 at 11:53 AM ^
Mind is so blown. It's on the same level of meeting a classy Buckeye fan, or running into a unicorn. It just doesn't happen.
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April 10th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^
read the entire ruling; however, I though I read something about "being employed" by such camps. Ok then, Harbs and the boys can volunteer their time to help at a camp promoted by IMG.
Better yet, lets get Al Glick to start some camps in Atlanta, Tampa, Mobile, Now Orleans. Then lets the entire staff come down and help out.
I really dont see how the NCAA can stop Harbs. The School or AD does not need to be involved at all. We have enough Big-Money Donors who would pony-up with $500K to get a few 5-start recruits.
I do not think this ruling will stop Hards in the least. There is so much wiggle room with the word "employed".
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I don't think it presents a loophole. The rest of the ruling may make things more clear, but the intent of the rule is certainly clear enough. They are banning the satelite camps, not compensation for the coaches.
April 10th, 2016 at 12:11 PM ^
Thanks for posting this.
April 10th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^
camps over time to promote whatever program he was supporting as a coach, but the fact is he didn't start doing it when he got to Michigan. The coach has been doing offseason camps and coaching clinics since before he left the NFL. He has been consistent in doing them whether he was working with his brother and dad on behalf of Western Kentucky or whether he was showing high school kids and younger how to throw a football while in his first season as head coach in San Diego.
In other words, he's been an evangelical leader of football coaching on a mission to promote the game and not necessarily to land the best athletes that he comes in contact with to attend his program of interest, even if that does occur. Whether he was promoting the Harbaugh brand or the Michigan block M, he was doing what a lot of coaches don't do in the off-season, and that is continue coaching because he loves it.
The NCAA ruling on Friday was like the Pharisee upholding some law to benefit the entrenched because the practice of running sattellite camps might upset the balance of football trade and power status quo.
Well, this is no different than how Congress is manipulated by lobbyists or how parties seek to deny White House or SC decision-making. And the fact is, that no less three of the head coaches in the SEC used to work in the Big Ten, and got their start coaching in the same mid and lower levels of the game from which they still look to obtain coaches and athletes for their programs, and benefit from these off-year camps.
And now, they are asking the NCAA to essentially limit the coaching expertise and learning opportunities just like a subsidy support that essentially pays producers not to work. And not even the conference commissioner of the Big Ten sees a reason to rant about it. Well, if he doesn't care about winning, then I guess it doesn't matter.