Blue Bunny Friday

June 1st, 2022 at 11:22 PM ^

He almost certainly got a promise... and one that OKC will likely keep in the way of drafting him with the 3rd of their first round picks. Thing is they have 5(!!!!) more next year and 3 the year after that. We're at 11 first round picks and you're near the lowest on the pay scale. Add in 2nd round picks and later years they have even more. They're investing almost NOTHING (okay ~$3 mil over 2 yrs) in this pick and banking on not having to overpay in free agecncy. That's what makes this a bad move, imo.

JP got a guarantee from GS with their ONLY 1st rounder in 2019 with 1 following in 2020 (Wiggins). Also, JP has swag.

Wish him well and will be happy if he's another JP. Go blue!

BroadneckBlue21

June 2nd, 2022 at 7:57 AM ^

They really are investing low end, proportionally, even if they pick him at the end of first. All teams are required to have a minimum team salary—so the money doesn’t really matter.


If a team has lots of picks, putting one on Houstan is as good as odds as a bunch of other players in the draft.
 

Michigan fans undervalue their own players from a draft standpoint while overvaluing every player in the draft/ignoring how those players are flawed while simultaneously yearning for those players to come back and play for Michigan.

The NBA has drafted with more value on assessment of potential over realized talent since at least the Kwame Brown draft. 

Houstan has a prototype shooting form and prototype size for today’s NBA—and he has shown he can play serviceable defense. He’s going to develop into a 38-42% NBA 3pt shooter by year 3. 
 

 

AZBlue

June 1st, 2022 at 6:58 PM ^

Actually saw a tweet by Ant Wright this morning about how quiet it has gotten re: Emoni and L'ville.

Ant speculated that maybe Emoni ends up at EMU or U of D. --- I just cannot see that with the ego and pride I perceive in the Bates' camp.  

Maybe Dwayne Stevens (sp?) takes a flyer at WMU??  Not like he would have much to lose as a first year HC and Izzo and crew recruited EB HARD as a youngster.

 

shoes

June 1st, 2022 at 6:49 PM ^

I have to agree. He was a good spot up shooter, when unguarded, and when at home. The only regret in losing these two is that they both might have improved a lot (though Moussa looked the one more likely to), on the other hand we haven't lost contributors on the level of Trey, Nik or Franz to name just 3 of many who left early in recent years

NJblue2

June 1st, 2022 at 9:59 PM ^

I don't think you can easily replace a sophomore Houstan (assuming he has that sophomore jump), but you can definitely get a freshman/transfer to replace his freshman production. He was a average player (good for a freshman, bad for a top 10 projected lottery pick), but I think a transfer could match his 35% from 3.

gmoney41

June 2nd, 2022 at 11:25 AM ^

For a 5 star, I don’t want an bang average starter, I want a guy who can contribute and do big things from the start.   Houstan never impressed me.  No athleticism, decent shot when open, terrible with a hand in face. Defense improved from bad to average.  At least we aren’t losing a ton of production.  Just seems like we wasted a year on these two guys when they barely made a difference.   

hfhmilkman

June 1st, 2022 at 11:39 PM ^

The problem with Houstan is he had 7 games where he hit almost half of all of 3's.  He was 28-43 in those games.  He shot 32-126 in the other 27.  Another way is break the season down in seven sections of 5, 4, 5, 4, 7, 4, and 5 games.  Sections 2, 4, and 6, Houstan was a viable scorer.  In 1, 3, 5, and 7 including the tournament he essentially was not there and a liability on offense. Then again the draft is like selling a home.  You only need to convince one idiot.  

Beaublue

June 2nd, 2022 at 8:52 AM ^

Crawford's situation was entirely different than Houstan.    Crawford was a legit talent (as is Houstan) but never really got a chance to play much due to an NCAA issue.

His 17 game stats were better than Houstan's full year stats and was more predictably a NBA player than Houstan is now.  

maquih

June 3rd, 2022 at 8:49 AM ^

For his NBA future it literally does not matter at all how underwhelming his season was.  Clearly there was some mental aspect to the huge shooting disparity between home and road games.  But having a bad season just doesn't mean he can't have a good NBA career.  His shooting technique is brilliant an he has the body to be an NBA small forward.  

Idk why people are surprised that college performance does not equate to NBA potential. 

Every year there are PotY candidates who have no NBA future at all and there are underwhelming college players drafted in the first round.  

RXwolverine

June 1st, 2022 at 6:45 PM ^

If he doesn’t get drafted he’ll end up in the g league but I can’t imagine that being more desirable than college ball. One would think the NIL would make the g league obsolete 

maquih

June 3rd, 2022 at 8:51 AM ^

I've heard that a ton, same with Diabate but I never understood why.  Sure, there's issues getting a w-2 with a student visa but nobody in michigan is interested in advertising in canada or even filming a commercial remotely from their countries of official residence??

bluesalt

June 1st, 2022 at 11:05 PM ^

There’s a very big difference from being an undrafted free agent who winds up in the G-League, which is what the poster was talking about, than being a 1st rounder who spends some developmental minutes down there, which is what Jordan Poole did. 
 

I do think Houstan is getting drafted in the 1st, and yes, will spend some time in the G League in his first two years.  But that’s different than what was being talked about — going undrafted and hitting the G League would be bad for Houstan’s development relative to college.

Jordan2323

June 1st, 2022 at 6:58 PM ^

So, right now our starters for next year most likely are Llewellyn, Bufkin, Jett, Williams and Dickinson. Jace, Barnes and Tschetter who all played next to none and two more true freshmen in Tarris and Dug as backups. Hopefully the portal is fruitful for Juwan because this isn’t an ideal year four situation, roster wise. Basically Williams and Hunter with any Michigan experience. 

smwilliams

June 1st, 2022 at 7:05 PM ^

This is going to be a hot take, but I’m not super bummed out. They both had room to grow, but this is what happens when you recruit like Juwan has been. Guys leave. 
 

I actually think Williams might be a better fit next to Dickinson. He can space the floor more and if he stops the concentration lapses on D, could be a plus on that end. 

gmoney41

June 2nd, 2022 at 11:32 AM ^

Yes guys leave, but it would be nice to see them leave after making an impact.  These two are not leaving with any impact made except for diminishing the roster size.  All the hype on these two and I just didn’t see it when they laced them up and played.  Hence the preseason ranking, and then the season of barely making the tourney.  

LabattsBleu

June 1st, 2022 at 7:26 PM ^

darn it... was hoping Houstan would have stayed one more year...

my guess is both will be drafted, but probably late first, early second... sucks because I think if they stayed one more year, they could have made it into the lottery.

Its a shame as we won't see what they could have been in a second year

Ham

June 1st, 2022 at 7:31 PM ^

How come MSU players seemingly always stay 1-2 years more than they should while UM players seemingly always leave 1-2 years before they should?