Partyplayerjay

January 18th, 2017 at 1:27 PM ^

I'm a member and I can say that nothing has been posted to my knowledge of either getting pushed out. There was a note that there was a belief that Wheatly would leave but nothing about him being pushed out. This guy is just fabricating things based on perceptions he is drawing himself.

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Don

January 18th, 2017 at 6:02 PM ^

I was the one who asked Sam the question this morning about whether Wheatley had gotten an offer to stay. Seems like a pretty important detail to me.

Now I suppose a new offer could be structured so as to be an insult that Wheatley would be sure to reject, but that strikes me as Machiavellian in a way that Harbaugh isn't. He's far too direct and simple.

Sam has been saying for two years that we need to get used to staff departures, because the guys Harbaugh is hiring are ambitious. In Wheatley's case, he wants to be a head coach, and Webb's view is that Wheatley made the decision that moving to the Jags would get him closer to that than staying on as RB coach at Michigan. As far as Fisch goes, it was an article of faith around here going back to 2015 that Jedd would be one of the first assistants to leave, and that his gig here was strictly a short-term thing. Blowing his departure up into something that Harbaugh engineered sounds like a typical hot take from an internet gasbag.

It would hardly be unusual for there to be disagreements between head coaches and their assistants—Woody and Bo threw chairs at each other during one meeting, for chrissakes—so I would never say that it's impossible there were differences of opinion between Wheatley, Drevno, and Harbaugh. I'm never going to take Henson's word as gospel, though.

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Partyplayerjay

January 18th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^

I wouldn't believe a thing this guy says. He's notoriously inaccurate outside of the Harbaugh hiring for which he was just reading tea leaves. To double down on a good point someone made, If Harbaugh was pushing Wheatly out why would he continue to have him recruiting days before he leaves. Also Fisch has openly wished U of M and Harbaugh luck, something I doubt he does if he indeed got "pushed" out

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Stay.Classy.An…

January 18th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

On Fisch, there is something called "class and professionalism" when things don't go your way. I would expect someone with both of those qualities to say the same things that Fisch did upon taking a job opportunity in another spot. What good would come out of him saying, "Harbaugh is an ass and I hope UM never wins another game EVER!"? So I completely disagree with your point on that. 

On Henson, what proof do you have that he has been "notoriously" inaccurate? I'm not a Henson slappy, but I always think it's important to provide documentation when you question someone's reliability or ability to do their job. I can't prove he has been accurate outside of Harbaugh, but I'm also not the one besmirching his name.

On Wheatley, I mean, he still has a job to do while Michigan is paying him to do it. Harbaugh wanted every player he visited, so Wheatley was going to do what he was being payed to do and be "classy and professional" about it. Harbaugh isn't an idiot, unless he was going to do the visit himself, you send Wheatley and you expect him not to tell a recruit "btw, I'm leaving, Harbaugh is stupid, don't go to Michigan". Why is that so hard to believe? 

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KC Wolve

January 18th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^

Of course there is "class and professionalism" as you say but Jed rode his time with JH to an OC job at UCLA. Sounds to like a pretty good consolation prize for someone that got pushed out.

Reports like these should be treated the same way as the stupid reports on where a recruit might go. They are to generate clicks only and probably aren't based on anything other than an opinion.



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Stay.Classy.An…

January 18th, 2017 at 2:26 PM ^

I got another interesting text from a good source that Josh Rosen “is in” if Jim is indeed named the next Head Coach at Michigan.  Rosen is a California kid who is committed to UCLA, but sources say he will more than likely be a Wolverine once the search is resolved next week.  That is a bit of a surprise to me as Michigan already has a nice prospect in the class, Alex Malzone from Birmingham Brother Rice.  I’ll admit, I know next to nothing about recruits, I’m just passing it along from a solid source.

 

Clearly, he must have trusted his source to come out with this information. However, he even admits to knowing "next to nothing" about recruiting. I'm honestly trying hard not to defend him, because I believe most reporters are about the clicks/shares/likes these days. But, I don't see anything where he personally guarantees Rosen would be here. This prediction to me is about the same as all the "Najee is flipping" stories. IMO.

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wahooverine

January 18th, 2017 at 1:26 PM ^

He's the head coach, which makes him the boss. This is okay for him to do. These were two good coaches, but I'm not second guessing it based on his track record.

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Partyplayerjay

January 18th, 2017 at 1:30 PM ^

To anything that thinks Henson has good sources, remember his insider scoop that a supposed mystery commitment was going to fall our way was reported to be Greg Little. Looking back it appears he just made this claim based off the fact that him and Rashan and struck up a friendship at one of the camps.

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NRK

January 18th, 2017 at 1:34 PM ^

Henson swings at a lot of pitches. Sometimes he hits a HR, someone he strikes out. Issue is knowing which one is which in the moment because he is one of the ultimate "sources" guys. So I read it, but I also know that I'm probably not going to know until someone I view as more reliable weighs in.

 

Also, hard to take this too article seriously when it says this:

(You can follow Fregg Henson on Twitter @GreggHenson)

Unless they're shortening Faux Gregg Henson to Fregg Henson, in which case, well done, website I've never read before.

 

 

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Bp6

January 18th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^

Some new evidence recently tested has narrowed down DB Coopers likely employment. Coopers tie was tested and unique chemical compounds found only in the cathode tube manufacturing industry were found. That's the newest development since some kid found a bundle of cash in the 80's.

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MJ14

January 18th, 2017 at 1:36 PM ^

Wheatley wanted more say in offensive play calling. He wasn't going to get it with Pep coming in. Mutual decision for him to go try and move up somewhere else. I'd love to see Wheatley come back one day as head coach or offensive coordinator.

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M-stache

January 18th, 2017 at 3:36 PM ^

I made an innocuous comment in a reply to one of his Tweets. Didn't think anything of it until a couple of hours later somebody quoted one of his Tweets and I couldn't see it. Yep, blocked.

First and only time.

That said, I don't completely doubt what he wrote here. I don't completely trust it, either.

 

 

 

 

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MichiganMan_24_

January 18th, 2017 at 1:41 PM ^

I feel like it makes sense.. Wheatley would carry out duties up until his official departure and it sounds like there is no bad blood so why not? Henson was too dead accurate on the Harbaugh hire to be a complete bum, he is a toolbag but he had that pegged so 100% before anyone else so I refuse to bash him.

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bsand2053

January 18th, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^

I'm not saying it's impossible but untill I hear from a better souce I'm not buying it.

I wouldn't be surprised if Harbaugh encouraged them to spread their wings and leave the nest if the spirit moved them and somehow that got twisted into "Harbaugh wanted those guys out".

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Ronnie Kaye

January 18th, 2017 at 1:44 PM ^

Wheatley was a great recruiter and nice to have a legacy guy in the program, but time after time people insisted that Deveon Smith got the playing time he did because he was the only one who could pick up blitzes and block well. Wouldn't that be a coaching issue?

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UofM626

January 18th, 2017 at 1:54 PM ^

The next time I see a coach make a block to protect the QB or catch a screen pass is when I will believe it's a coaches fault that the RB can't block. You can lead a horse to water but if he won't drink he won't drink



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DrMantisToboggan

January 18th, 2017 at 1:50 PM ^

He's crying about the blog's message board on twitter now. Says its the reason people hate our fan base lol. If you've ever scanned any other Michigan message board you know that this one would do the least damage to Michigan's reputation should an impartial observer stumble upon it.



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