Harbaugh refutes reports that he is leaving - Bleacher Report
Good for him. I think it takes some courage to acknowledge that he wants to stay. It may not be his choice if he continues to fail to meet expectations. It is respectable to put yourself out there and state that you want to/ intend to stay in a situation where you may be fired against your will. I respect his character - regardless of how this works out for him.
Go blue - and if Jim stays, may he realize his/ our dreams at Michigan. If he leaves, may our new coach help us realize our dream.
December 5th, 2020 at 7:12 AM ^
This is a great reminder of how poorly this could go. If Warde’s final decision is to keep Harbaugh and he’s waited to announce that, then Warde should be fired.
At this point the only acceptable reason for not announcing anything is because a change is coming and they’re still working out the details of it.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:18 AM ^
I think its pretty easy to piece this together...
1. JH is obsessed with the task at hand (this season)
2. He has a, what has been described as a "to a fault", refusal to discuss next career steps during said task referenced in #1
3. Warde isn't going to fire him
Warde hasn't said anything because he hasn't had the conversation with JH about what JH wants to do which is and has always been the more likely scenario
December 5th, 2020 at 10:21 AM ^
Yeah, because losing to a dreadful Sparty team and an 0-5 PSU team takes an obsession of focus.
"Warde hasn't said anything because he hasn't had the conversation with JH about what JH wants to do"
If that is true, Warde should be fired, as well.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^
Now, if Harbaugh is staying, Manuel needs to get out in front of the speculation and announce that he'll be back
I agree, but I also always assumed there would be some sort of a post-season evaluation as I'm sure most ADs do with a coach. It's unlikely they'd just come out and fire JH. So, the more likely scenario to me is a discussion of the struggles and a mutual decision of either JH leaving on his own terms or Manuel agreeing to bring him back and give him the needed extension at least on paper with the assumption of hitting some benchmarks in 2021. So, I assumed there wouldn't be any decisions until the season is over unless there is some major disaster forcing Manuel's hand. Unfortunately this may also mean UM misses out Campbell as someone else may snatch him up before UM has the chance to go after him.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:31 PM ^
Why do we have to wait until the season is over? They can’t do shit right now anyway. Warde should sit down with Harbaugh now and figure it out. The season may be over anyway at this point. For fucks sake Warde get a move on this shit bc Harbaugh is essentially a lame duck already.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:54 PM ^
The season is over.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:35 AM ^
Why do we have to wait until the season is over? They can’t do shit right now anyway.
I agree that they should, but I don't think they will. To fire a guy mid-season it really. has to be a disaster. I think there is some evidence of this, there are also plenty of valid excuses like Covid, opt outs, injuries, assistants not coaching in person, etc. That's probably enough to get a guy who is beloved by the university more time. And, obviously JH has said he doesn't plan on leaving.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^
Absolutely. I’m really frustrated with this. I know many disagree with me in keeping Harbaugh, but if it’s not to be then MAKE A DECISION. I don’t see how anyone other than our opponents are served by remaining silent. It’s bad for the program, the recruits, current players and assistants... everyone.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:02 PM ^
Situation very bizarre. No news and no word on extension says they plan to part ways after season is over. Recruits not leaving like crazy before 12/16 shows recruits think staff is staying? I get no news if it’s a parting at end of year. Just odd though the recruits wouldn’t know more than us on situation when they ask. Very odd all around. Not sure what to think.
December 5th, 2020 at 1:55 AM ^
Typical Michigan football coach hiring snafu
December 4th, 2020 at 8:43 PM ^
Been hearing rumors its a mixed bag has some of the michigan people do not want Harbaugh back and others do because they don't know who we would get thats better, which at this point is fucking laughable.
I heard announcement was coming next week and ita going to get messy
December 4th, 2020 at 10:07 PM ^
Can I ask your connection? Don’t recall seeing a post, let alone inside info, coming from switch26.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:39 PM ^
Agree... If I see something like that from umbig11 or GhostofJermaine, I'll believe it.
December 4th, 2020 at 11:28 PM ^
Well some of the stuff i have heard is being posted literally on youtube on the ticket with Rico talking about it with people he knows. Not valenti giving the information, i know rico is an idiot as well, but he is connected to enough people within the state and this year he has said a bunch of crap that has come true..
he literally on the video discusses the safety that just committed to missou that we may not be getting him any longer, than hours later he committs to missou.
But that is just one location, but there are others talking about the same
December 5th, 2020 at 12:44 AM ^
Rico Beard. Lol. So in other words you have no sources.
Rico Beard doesn’t know shit.
December 5th, 2020 at 8:54 AM ^
I literally said rumors on the internet, not sources
December 5th, 2020 at 12:32 AM ^
It isn’t “fucking laughable”. There isn’t anyone available who is better.
Sorry.
December 5th, 2020 at 12:53 AM ^
I just don't understand how you can look at the last 3 years and say nobody could do a better job of recruiting, roster management and player development. We are winless at home and are thanking our lucky stars that we are likely to not play out the rest of the season. The Wolverine is wounded and needs to be taken to the vet.
This team is lifeless and lacks leadership. Anyone with an unbiased set of eyes watching the games sees it. I love Harbaugh and I am 100% a Michigan fan, always have been and forever will be. But the ship is sinking fast.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:24 AM ^
My thoughts exactly, well stated.
December 4th, 2020 at 8:48 PM ^
If he truly loved Michigan he would agree to mutually part ways at the end of the season.
He failed. Plain and simple. Time for someone else to take over.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:00 PM ^
That’s not how he thinks. He thinks he can fix it.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:11 PM ^
The real Harbaugh could fix it
December 4th, 2020 at 9:13 PM ^
That’s exactly what’s going to happen. The lack of action on an extension is pretty telling. Even if he was going to stay one more year, they’d at least extend a year or two to boost recruiting a bit. Only one option makes any sense at this point and Harbaugh has had an eye on other opportunities since probably after the Wisconsin game
December 5th, 2020 at 12:37 AM ^
This is complete BS. “Eye on other opportunities” - fucking source this shit or GTFO.
Not a defense of Harbaugh but the dude has an empty cupboard and probably knew it coming into the year. Sometimes you bite the bullet and make it through the year with a respectable record. Others you take one on the chin and regroup. Year 6 sucks obviously but bring in a good recruiting class and shit can change real quick.
The hawt takes on this board are gross and have little or no context. Wild West here folks!
December 5th, 2020 at 10:22 AM ^
I agree that Harbaugh probably hasn't had eyes on other opportunities. Admirably, he is a "task-at-hand" kind of guy, as has been mentioned before in this thread. He does look miserable in the job though. And the empty cupboard is his own damn fault. They've suffered much worse than taking one on the chin. Half the team has quit on him. So yeah, we need a new coach.
December 5th, 2020 at 12:55 PM ^
"Not a defense of Harbaugh but the dude has an empty cupboard"
That's a defense for a loss to OSU, but Sparty and 0-5 PSU? My goodness, talk about hawt takes.
December 4th, 2020 at 8:50 PM ^
Well I commend him for sticking his neck out there and wanting to see this through to the end. However bitter of an end it might be. Although depending on how many boosters and donors back out, staying may not be his choice to make. I just hope whatever decision is made, make it sooner rather than later. Recruits need to know where Michigan stands with Harbaugh’s future. Worthy is probably gone, but others are waiting on this decision.
If he does get a chance to come back, can we please get the 2015-16 Harbaugh back? The fiery, passionate, slightly unhinged SOB who would lose his shit and get in a ref’s face to defend his players and his team? The guy who took no shit from anyone? I know that alone doesn’t win football games, but there was an X Factor within this program in those two years that we just haven’t seen since.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:29 PM ^
It might make his players feel that fire, and feel like he has their back. That’s enough for me.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:51 PM ^
The X factor back then was Brady Hoke's recruits.
December 4th, 2020 at 8:50 PM ^
If he comes back, it is going to set us back multiple years. Tear it down and build it again.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:48 PM ^
Just curious - you don’t think tearing it down and building it again which I take to mean fire Harbaugh and hire someone else will not set us back years?
December 4th, 2020 at 10:11 PM ^
"This will set us back YEARS. We should do the opposite, so we can set ourselves back years."
December 4th, 2020 at 9:02 PM ^
My grandpa used to say shit or get off the pot. Just saying.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:24 PM ^
Gramps didn't have a cell phone. taking my sweet time on the shitter with my phone is the highlight of my day
December 4th, 2020 at 10:16 PM ^
username definitely checks out
December 4th, 2020 at 9:04 PM ^
Would he say otherwise? I mean, this very well could be true, and at this time of the season it does seem likely...but were they expecting Harbaugh to say "Recruiting going good, good relationships. Me? Oh, no, I'm outty 5000."
December 4th, 2020 at 9:13 PM ^
It is respectable to put yourself out there and state that you want to/ intend to stay in a situation where you may be fired against your will. I respect his character - regardless of how this works out for him.
It is respectable, and I can see how it would be hard to change when being this way got him this far. But at the same time this lack of flexibility is also what appears to be causing problems such as being hard on assistants, poor player retention, and being too slow to make changes with the coordinators and play calling.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:14 PM ^
If he stays he needs to make major changes. Get rid of Brown. Replace his son with Mike Hart. Most of all he needs to recruit Michigan and Ohio A LOT better.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:03 PM ^
Most of all he needs to stop interjecting his decades old offensive philosophies on whoever the poor sap of an OC ends up being. We can fire and hire another 10 offensive coordinators but they're all going to be saddled with running 50% manball garbage.
December 5th, 2020 at 9:23 AM ^
Major changes - correct! It needs to start with the organization in general - new recruiting coordinator and new strength and conditioning coordinator followed by some new assistants. Top requirement for an assistant - ability to strategically recruit an area of the country.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:17 PM ^
And so it begins ... :(
December 4th, 2020 at 9:20 PM ^
If an extension is announced, even if it is only for a couple years, I think the wind is officially out of this program's sails.
A new coach needs to come in next year and overhaul this whole thing.
I have a gut feeling that if JH does stay, the fan support is going to fall of a cliff. He's had six years. He's done nothing. It's over. Time to turn the channel.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:45 PM ^
The fans... That cliff... We've already met.
December 5th, 2020 at 12:35 AM ^
I have a gut feeling that whoever replaces him will also fail based on the fact that the last three coaches have failed.
Fan support isn’t going to fall off a cliff. The MGoBubble you reside in distorts your perception of the fan base.
December 4th, 2020 at 9:21 PM ^
Bleh. What a massive disappointment this coach has been. I would have never guessed this is where we would be six years in.
December 4th, 2020 at 10:55 PM ^
Interesting... I believe you user name matches the name of Harbaugh’s year end reviews for 2018-2020
December 5th, 2020 at 12:36 AM ^
UM will be here again with the next coach.
Michigan isn’t going to be better than what it has been under Harbaugh. Sorry.
December 5th, 2020 at 1:00 AM ^
Coaching matters and Harbaugh's performance has been erratic at best despite the fact he's making top dollar.
Very poor ROI.
I dispute your implication that UM couldn't do better.
December 5th, 2020 at 1:12 AM ^
Seems like the best the Harbaugh apologists have is... "it could be worse" or "he's doing better than RR or Hoke".... that may fly for the wal-verines but not with the folks who give the big money to the university and buy the tickets.
December 5th, 2020 at 10:08 AM ^
-1 for "wal-verines". Thanks for shopping.
As far as the folks who give the big money, it seems (based on what's been posted on the board by insiders) that they are divided over Harbaugh.