Harbaugh Attorney Tom Mars Statements to B1G
Dan Wetzel and Ross Dellenger consolidated article about UM response to B1G, including excerpts of response by Harbaugh attorney Tom Mars:
"In a separate eight-page letter to the Big Ten, Harbaugh’s attorney, Tom Mars, mirrors many of the same arguments but also offers the first explanation for some of the questions that have dogged the Michigan coach since the Stalions scandal first broke. NCAA rules prohibit public comment during an ongoing investigation, effectively preventing the accused from publicly defending themselves.
Mars, for example, addresses the accusation that even if there is no proof Harbaugh did know about how Stalions was able to steal opponent’s signs, Harbaugh should have known, or at least should have been more curious, because Stalions’ was able to do it. It is legal to steal signs. It is the in-person scouting ring Stalions allegedly ran that is against NCAA rules.
However, Mars argues that since Michigan offered proof that both Ohio State and Rutgers had accurately stolen its play signals last season — presumably via game film, which is allowed — that figuring out the signs is not particularly difficult."
“When other teams had been legally acquiring Michigan’s signals with 100 percent accuracy for at least two years by studying Michigan game films, there was no reason for Coach Harbaugh or anyone else to believe that (Stalions) had not acquired his information about other team’s signals by using the same methodology," Mars wrote.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:33 PM ^
Conner got lazy or his vacuum cleaner biz picked up.
Either way he didn't want to spend the time it takes to watch film.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:44 PM ^
no his vacuum cleaner business sucked
November 8th, 2023 at 9:44 PM ^
o broken-hearted hoover fixer sucker guy
November 8th, 2023 at 9:57 PM ^
Or didn't, which would explain his lack of clients
November 8th, 2023 at 10:39 PM ^
Apparently it didn't suck good enough.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^
I get that some of what Connor might have done is open for ridicule, but making fun of a veteran for trying to earn a living is pathetic. So what if he repairs vacuums!
We have devolved to demeaning those who actually fix broken things and work for a living. Blue collar is SO far beneath everyone that it is a joke. Be better!
November 8th, 2023 at 10:06 PM ^
No, it's because he junked up his porch with them to the point where the HOA complained. And he got a 2.8 out of 5 on Amazon for his vacuum business.
Sir James Dyson he's not.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:10 PM ^
And because his legal defense against an HOA lawsuit was "An MSU fan is out to get me".
November 8th, 2023 at 10:35 PM ^
We've all used that one, amirite?
November 8th, 2023 at 11:14 PM ^
Well, at this point they probably are.
November 8th, 2023 at 11:35 PM ^
"And because his legal defense against an HOA lawsuit was "An MSU fan is out to get me"."
To be fair, I say that every time my delivered pizza is substandard.
November 9th, 2023 at 6:23 AM ^
In fairness to CS, most homeowners associations are hives of petty tyrants, busybodies, and closet bigots.
November 9th, 2023 at 11:42 AM ^
Closeted?
November 8th, 2023 at 9:36 PM ^
Glad Wetzel has become a go-to follow on twitter, I think we all have seen enough of David Shuster for one lifetime 😬
November 8th, 2023 at 10:17 PM ^
Shuster is unhinged and I love it.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:37 PM ^
It's amazing how the Big Ten keeps one upping itself in terms of hiring awful commissioners. The bar was set so low with Delany but they keep going lower. Pettiti is a dumbass who won't last long in this job.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:53 PM ^
The Big Ten are whores for $$$ so they keep hiring the best prostitutes they can find. Problem is, prostitutes don't always make good managers.
November 8th, 2023 at 11:16 PM ^
Going to the last 2 B1G championship games, Warren was roundly booed by everyone. I have to think that had some bearing on his decision to leave.
Can't wait for December. If M makes it there, I plan to let that twerp commish know what I think cranked up to 11.
November 9th, 2023 at 6:20 AM ^
Let’s win and stay healthy this weekend
November 8th, 2023 at 9:38 PM ^
I just don't get what Petitti thinks is going to happen tomorrow if he suspends Harbaugh. He's going to immediately get an injunction on his face that'll take at least a week to resolve, and unless the judge is an absolutely idiotic OSU slappy he or she is going to weigh the costs to Harbaugh (pretty significant in not being able to do his job) vs. the cost the the Big 10 (very little esp. since Stalions isn't on staff and all teams have been warned for weeks) and side with UM pending a formal investigation. Like, I know there are dumb OSU/PSU/MSU chuds out there trying to argue otherwise because their fever dream of seeing UM crumble is dying but that's most likely how this goes.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:16 PM ^
There are two sticks on the table:
Stick 1) He looks like a fool for creating all this mess and then backing off at the last moment.
Stick 2) He looks like a fool for creating all this mess and then having a judge make him back off at the last moment.
He is going to get hit with a fool stick, he just gets to pick which one.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:39 PM ^
Crazy thought. Can Tom Mars be the next Athletic Director?
November 8th, 2023 at 9:43 PM ^
That would be one heck of a pay cut.
November 9th, 2023 at 8:52 AM ^
I hear Big 10 commissioner pays well, and that job will be open soon.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:39 PM ^
Petitti has to be absolutely shitting himself right now....or at least has probably peed himself a few times...knowing that he's dug himself into a huge hole while also looking like a clown as each day passes.
Again. This is just the beginning and also the tip of the iceberg.
Can't wait to see what drops next because we all know there is more that Michigan is holding onto.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:58 PM ^
He needs to get out of this dive at all costs. What the fuck, at this point he just make up a story that the NCAA called him and told him to stand down. When the NCAA denies they said that, he can say "That's not what they said to me, must have been a bad connection."
Dog ate my homework. Gotta run. No more questions.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:11 PM ^
To save face, I think he’s going ahead with the suspension, but is hoping a judge will bail him out with a temporary injunction
November 8th, 2023 at 10:23 PM ^
Your decision as Big Ten commissioner is so shitty that a judge who knows nothing about your business stops you from even trying it . . . does not seem very face saving.
November 8th, 2023 at 11:19 PM ^
That would be a poor choice. That brings UM to court, which is going to cause a chain reaction and he won't be able to control where it ends up.
At this point, I'm wondering if there's some adults in the OSU admin calling him and telling him it's time to stop.
November 9th, 2023 at 11:51 AM ^
A temporary injunction does not stop the legal process, including all of the wonderful delicious discovery that will show him to be an even bigger assclown than he already looks by entertaining this bullshit to begin with.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:40 PM ^
I can’t think of more utterly pathetic loser behavior from someone in sports than to try to bring down an opponent with manufactured scandal.
That transcends any naive notions of fair play. This isn’t unnecessary roughness or even recruit tampering, which are at least related to winning the game if you’re a “by any means” shitbag. This is avoiding your opponent entirely. This is millionaire coaches straight-up admitting to themselves that they suck and thus can’t win on the field, literally by any means! To do this you have to look at yourself in the mirror and say to yourself, “I am a worthless loser shit fraud and should not be coaching competitive athletes.”
You have no sense of competitiveness at that point. You’ve emasculated your own athletic background, and deserve to coach naked for the jaw-dropping cowardice.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:52 PM ^
I can't believe there's no serious pushback on where all this info is coming from. Presumably if it was available, someone would've leaked it. So the Big Ten is suspending coaches based on other schools private investigators? What a horrendous precedent to set
November 8th, 2023 at 10:00 PM ^
The NCAA is contemplating it too.
November 9th, 2023 at 11:56 AM ^
We already know that the NCAA didn't want to be bothered by this petty bullshit but were drawn in by bogus "tips to the press" from anonymous sources that were published by slackjawed and credulous reporters. The NCAA Director of Compliance is a vengeful Harbaugh-hater, but the NCAA as an institution cannot afford to risk proceeding without due process.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:41 PM ^
Harbaugh could actually sue the B1G for deformation. If we give him a 10 M contract and he gets 50 M from the B1G, he may want to stay as Michigan's coach.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:44 PM ^
Deformation? Upvote incoming as soon as I stop hyperventalating from laughter.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^
People have been getting bent out of shape over this issue.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:26 PM ^
He could also partner up with Martin Luther and sue them for reformation!
November 9th, 2023 at 12:08 AM ^
Tony Pettiti sentenced to life with a Diet of Worms.
November 8th, 2023 at 11:22 PM ^
I hope they don't start handing out penalties for defecation or I'm going to get a show cause.
November 9th, 2023 at 1:11 AM ^
Or in this case, a shit cause.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:51 PM ^
I assume defamation.. I thought the same for libel as well.
November 9th, 2023 at 6:07 AM ^
Seriously though, have you ever noticed that left arm of Harbaugh's?
November 8th, 2023 at 9:41 PM ^
Long and short of it, if the conference tries to suspend Harbaugh, it goes to court and everyone gets bloodied and an injunction lets Harbaugh coach out the season anyway.
This shouldn’t be a hard decision
November 8th, 2023 at 9:42 PM ^
So tired. Need to sleep, but must keep reading and refreshing threads.
November 8th, 2023 at 9:48 PM ^
That's me. Wife just asked me if I was ready for bed and I'm fighting like a middle schooler. I'm hoping for a late night drop. Didn't Hole tease that some names would be released today?
November 8th, 2023 at 9:55 PM ^
I'll tease your Hole and give you a release. Is that close enough?
November 8th, 2023 at 10:00 PM ^
I think the names were the sign stealer guys from OSU and Rutgers, but he said the Athletic did not print their names like he thought they were going to. I listened to his pod while I took a nap so that I could come back and refresh some mgothreads.
November 8th, 2023 at 10:23 PM ^
He gave the names yesterday. The Rutgers sign stealing guy is Jordan Huxtable and the Buckeye sign stealer, who came from Okie St with Knowles, is Brent Zdebski
November 8th, 2023 at 10:26 PM ^
Who was the Purdue guy that received the signs?