Harbaugh’s Attitude
I don’t want anyone but Harbaugh, but his attitude sucks.
Clapping on sideline after we go down 14-0 is absurd. Reminds me of Hoke.
Refusing to say a loss is a setback. Cmon man just say, it is what it is.
No in your face coaching to the online when they were getting crushed.
Can the real JH please stand up for the sake of our livelihood as fans and for your team.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:38 AM ^
Keep JH
Go Bucks
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:39 AM ^
Feel bad for you.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
They will! He's their golden boy.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:20 AM ^
If OSU would've played ND yesterday instead of Oregon State, you would've given up 60 points. You gave up 31 points to the worst power 5 team in the country. In the first 4 minutes of the second half your defense gave up 150 yards and 14 points to Oregon State...Oregon State. The fact you're here to celebrate shows how truly ignorant you are. Come back in seven weeks and compare records then.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:38 PM ^
That doesn't give me any more confidence. I watched that game yesterday afternoon and they appear to have the most talented roster in the country. Their QB and Dline is certainly in the conversation and they have fuc*ing track stars on the outside.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:38 AM ^
And your golden boy enables wife beaters. Good job.
September 3rd, 2018 at 12:41 PM ^
UM actually has a convicted felon on their team who assaulted a woman and a police officer #michiganman. Harbaugh was MIA on the discipline decision. #whatsafelony
September 3rd, 2018 at 12:42 PM ^
UM actually has a convicted felon on their team who assaulted a woman and a police officer #michiganman. Harbaugh was MIA on the discipline decision. #whatsafelony
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:55 AM ^
Go shit in your hand fuckface.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:40 AM ^
Keep driving that truck and fucking your sister.
September 2nd, 2018 at 12:07 PM ^
Hey Michigan fans, at least you still have a decent chance at winning the 2018 Ethics National Championship! When the football season is blown, always resort to chatter about SAT scores, ethics, and how much better your careers are. The Michigan way!
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:25 PM ^
That’s spot on. UM puts more emphasis on the academics and reputation of the school, while OSU has proven to prioritize football over all else.
UM needs to win at both and the last 15 yrs certainly puts into question when that will happen. One thing is assured - OSU will never win at both.
September 2nd, 2018 at 1:49 PM ^
So comical that an OSU fan would come here to openly gloat that they value a few football wins more than ethics, integrity, values and morality.
Sure, I’d love Michigan to win more. But what is truly important in my life? Having ethics and integrity, being a good human being and receiving a world-class college education certainly will get me farther in life than simply rooting for a team that wins a few more games at the expense of everything else.
September 2nd, 2018 at 2:32 PM ^
Hell yeah. Fuck being a decent human being! Muh sportsball is all that matters!
September 2nd, 2018 at 2:48 PM ^
This might be one of the most ignorant statements I've read from an OSU fan. And that says a lot.
September 2nd, 2018 at 3:10 PM ^
This from the fucking loser who decides the best way to spend his time is visit the message board of the team about which his entire fanbase supposedly doesn't give a damn.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:39 AM ^
The careless clock management was telling. He lacks a sense of urgency. Playing not to lose. Never gonna close in the big games with that.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:41 AM ^
No accountibility on the field. We make fun of Dantonio, Kelly and Saban when they go off on the side lines but reality is they are winning because they make each and everyone of those players be accountable for their mistake. Our approach to mistakes is claping and blaming coaches. Can Jim for once be an asshole and just get on his guys face? I dont remember last time i saw one of our recent coaches do that. The coaches that did that Bo and Carr won a lot.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
good point
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^
Honestly, I saw Jim do that last year to his kicker. However, he needs to get in the face of the Oline.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
Maybe UM should base his pay on performance. Dude would be broke in a year.Maybe there is a miracle turnaround by seasons end. If not, I am to the point of wanting anyone but Harbaugh.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:59 AM ^
I'm in the camp that he's taking something that removes the edge. Something like Zoloft or Lexapro - just enough to flatten things out. I have no evidence, and I won't try to defend it. But I see the same thing with my wife - without the Lexapro, anxiety drives emotional swings and overly hard rants.
My suspicions are my own, and I've thought this since mid-way through last year. Flipping out on a missed call is one thing. But if he was also flipping out at home over some spilled milk, yeah, he'd need to be on it. I have no idea if this is true, but it seems plausible to me.
True, or not, I do believe the calmer attitude has hurt the team.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:32 AM ^
I think you’re right on the money. It’s been obvious that he’s a different guy, especially since the early ‘16 team to the beginning of ‘17. He’s in noticeably poorer shape, looks older and spaced out, which are all side effects. Get off the meds and bring the fire back! Perfectionism and a certain relentlessness come with a CEO position like head coaching.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:19 AM ^
Meds are bad. Yes.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^
Jim Harbaugh only flips out over spilled whole milk. The pansy-ass low-fat stuff doesn't bother him.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
Did anyone not see him yell at the refs when we were marked short on that first down? Or when he thought there was pass interference he literally ran down the sideline to scream at the refs for a no call? God this board is the fucking worst after a loss...
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:31 AM ^
Agreed - about JH. I actually said to a PSU friend "JH's strategy seems to always be to cry about bad refs cheating him out of something instead of the bad plays and bad coaching being to blame." She then sent a gif of him screaming about who knows what that time, from a "bad" ref call, and I replied "#harbawl"
I feel like that has been his goto for the last three seasons - that the refs are cheating him, and it isn't the fault of him, his team, or his coaching staff for the mediocrity that they wallow in year after year. According to that same PSU friend, big ten forums all over are asking why Michigan is even ranked at this point and calling this program the most over-hyped in the game. OSU is literally asking if they can get a different rival yet or if they have to defeat us yet again before people stop calling us their "rivals". To be a rival you actually have to win sometimes against said rival.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:46 AM ^
No, actually I didn't realize that he flipped out yesterday. I'm not sure if that's good or bad because I'm trying to make sense of this team not being great in year 4 of Harbaugh. He`s turned around every team\program he took over by this point in his tenure. Michigan should have been the easiest to do it with yet he's 9-9 in his last 18 games (which has only been pointed out by every sports page in America this morning).
If I want to believe the only thing keeping Harbaugh and his team from being great is whether he takes a pill or not, please don't ruin that for me. - jk...or at least I think I am.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^
Yes, yes it is. That's why the game summary is locked. On the other hand, there are a lot of great coaching prospects here.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
I think maybe he thought Michigan was going to be a quick flip job, win some games, then bolt back for the NFL after a little bit.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:05 AM ^
I don't give a damn about this. This is not the primary reason we lost. It placed in only <0.1% factor. Some kids are nervous in the first game in a hostile environment. You can see the player's body language on the filed, then they settle down by 2nd quarter, after we trailed by two TDs.
We need more competent coaching staff in some positions. JH can just sit on the sideline without head phone and on a massage chair and drink his favorite milk, we still blow out ND.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:22 AM ^
Harbaugh really pushed for this ND game... It wasn't the time to do, hindsight. I was one of those folks pissed to give up a home and home with Arkansas to play ND.
Until we have a good oline, we have no business rivaling ND, OSU, and other legit BIG teams.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:09 AM ^
Agree 100%
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:26 AM ^
I've never thought Harbaugh looks comfortable here. And his discomfort seems to be growing rather than waning.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^
Agreed. And while I don't know if it was the first offer or the forty-fifth, it seemed like, from the 'surface-view', they had to work real hard behind the scenes to actually get him here. I don't blame him. I wouldn't leave the climate of California for Ann Arbor's arctic hell either, but if someone is that resistant to come here then maybe they should have been left alone.
Back when we still had Hoke someone on this board floated the idea of John instead of Jim. I admit I only did a very small amount of inquiry, but what little I read, my gut said that was a good suggestion; that he would be a better fit than Jim, would be more passionate about the program and wanting them to do well instead of just expecting it to happen because of his mere presence. I dunno. I was never a fan of Jim Harbaugh almost entirely because it seemed to take so much effort to get him here and I have no interest in a coach that is solely, finally, lured by the cash because it's so much you just can't possibly turn it down. I want a coach that sure, we pay well, but their heart was in it from the second they were being considered.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:51 AM ^
I fear John going to msu after dantini leaves.... i recall him wearing an msu hat at a ncaa tourney game and have wondered about that.
either way, i think to return to michigan football we need a devout prick like Bo was.... need Les Miles..... otherwise the program and all the gladhanding tends to swallow the coach whole.
i digress..... these players cannot overcome all the glamour and flattery they get from the fanbase...guys like winovich and his stupid cowboy hat and long hair and all the attention he gets just for being the starting DE... Bo would have ripped his ass and kept him grounded.. none of our players seem grounded at all...
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:27 AM ^
We couldn't ever get him now anyway, I wouldn't think. It was a bad decision not to consider him, but you can't "date" brothers. Once we married Jim, John was off the table.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:14 AM ^
Yeah, I don't think he wanted to come here, and he's been trying to convince himself that he wants to be here ever since (e.g., all the european vacations). I would not be shocked if he stands down after the season, maybe takes a year off, then heads back for the NFL.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:21 AM ^
Jim's only option to leave San Francisco was to come back to college. Jim and the higher ups didn't see eye to eye. He couldn't go to another NFL for that 1 year. So it was either come back to college football, or quit coaching for 1 year. I know one things for sure, he hasn't warranted the money their paying him yet.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:35 AM ^
Worst fanbase ever after a loss!
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
Cosigned.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^
This, this, 100% this. Overreactions everywhere. People think they know the sport better than they do. Expectations that are overinflated given 120 other programs are trying to win just as much; and some are willing to stretch the rules to do it.
The loss sucks, but the sun came up again this morning and it’s another late summer, early fall day. You can either make the most of it, or sulk about how the coaching staff just doesn’t get it like you do, or how the players just didn’t try hard enough, or how the recruiting just isn’t good enough, etc.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^
They scream "fire Harbaugh" then have no answers to replace him with. Dabo, Saban and Jumbo aren't coming through that door.
Harbaugh is the absolute best we can do and to be honest he's really not doing a bad job compared to anyone before him save Bo. 10-3, 10-3, 8-5... That's NOT bad. We've seen bad. This ain't it. It could be so much worse, guys.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:09 AM ^
Maybe it’s a bit of selective memory because Bo struggled in the post season but his teams were never this awful season after season with the exception of the 1984 team. Yes we lost a lot of heartbreakers during his reign and quite frankly JH has had more raw talent on his squads than most of Bo’s teams ever had, so why can’t he get them to play to that level? The best we looked was JH’s first year when he took Hoke’s kids to within a few points of a perfect season. I hate losing but that was a heck of a lot more respectable than what we’ve seen the last couple of years.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:38 AM ^
JH may have more raw talent than Bo but the Big Ten was a lot weaker then. Yeah OSU was always good, but back then there was no Nebraska or PSU, Wisconsin and NW were awful, MSU wasn't anywhere near what they are today. It was pretty much a three game season back then with ND, OSU and the bowl game.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:49 AM ^
College football was very different in the 1970s & 1980s when Bo coached. There were only so many talented kids who made sports their passion. We as a society have so glorified sports in the past 40-50 years that there are exponentially more kids who find their identity in sports now and can thus fill 85-man rosters 130 teams deep.
When Bo coached there were fewer elite players and most of them went to the big brands (Michigan/OSU/etc). Nowadays there are so many quality athletes coming out of high school that the big brands can't take them all and talent is significantly dispersed. It's harder to do now what Bo did then. Bo wouldn't even to do now what Bo did then. It's a different era.
September 2nd, 2018 at 10:59 AM ^
Yup, that’s what I am busy doing but after 13+ miserable years of Michigan fall football, it’s hard to see a way back for this program. It continues to be hype without substance and while I would rather lose every game than trade gear for tats or have abusers on staff, other programs are building and achieving. Explain to me how a ND squad with no better talent than our team can rise to the occasion in a big game and win? I’m no fan of Kelly, Dantonio, etc always, but their kids come out ready to play and execute.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:18 AM ^
Kelly has laid some eggs with his program, including against us.
September 2nd, 2018 at 11:30 AM ^
Why should it be against the rules to trade gifts you've earned like gold pants for tattoos? I personally wouldn't do that, but the gift is yours, not the NCAA's. Does it make you feel better when ichigan has struggled now for awhile, and you still bring up things about your rival?