Hanging Onto Brandon Gives Michigan the Best Chance At Harbaugh For Next Season--Sam Webb

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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=1088&t=13280630

The gist is that it would take too long to fire Brandon, bring in a new AD, and then hire a new football coach.  So if we want a chance Harbaugh next season, we should want Brandon to remain AD at least through the football coach hiring process.

ThadMattasagoblin

October 21st, 2014 at 10:21 PM ^

I'd rather have Jeff Long than Brandon. Long hired Missouri's BB coach, Wisconsin's football coach and Bobby Petrino. All Dave's done is try to turn Michigan into a business at the expense of the football program and culture.

BornSinner

October 21st, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^

Someone's trying to make some extra bones given the current vacuum in any news on the AD or Coach. It is a bye week afterall. Someone's gotta make dough. Why not Sam?

guthrie

October 21st, 2014 at 10:30 PM ^

Webb's reasoning is basically like this: if Brandon is fired, there simply won't be enough time to hire a new AD and then have the AD lock up a new coach. Schlissel is likely to use a search firm for the AD and no matter who they choose, the vetting process takes a while. After the new guy is picked, he isn't going to just jump ship and immediately come to UM. In Webb's opinion, the new AD probably won't actually occupy the new job until mid-January. If that's the case, the odds are strongly in favor that Hoke will get another year because the new AD will want to make his own assessment (unless the record is so bad that it's a fait accompli). On the other hand, if Brandon stays then that means he fought to keep his job and he'll probably jettison Hoke in favor of a homerun hire. Please keep in mind Webb specifically said it's possible to get rid of both. He just thinks it's unlikely.

superstringer

October 21st, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^

The Superbowl is early Feb, right.

Maybe we do make a coaching change in February.  Yes yes yes, NSD and all that in early Feb, screws this year's class, etc.  But if you could choose (1) a guy whose first name begins with the letter J and a screwed up first class, or (2) someone else hred in December/early Jan ... really, you'd go for door #2?

I'm not saying, I'm jus' sayin', the timeline is fine if you're chasing a guy who is gainfully employed through January.

Obviously, I'm referring to Jon Gruden.

WolverineJet

October 21st, 2014 at 10:28 PM ^

Pretty Sure with his Track Record, he isn't just guessing here. It's clear he always has very good inside info when he reports these type of things. He is not quick to run with a statement unless he has very good reason to.

steve sharik

October 21st, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^

Brandon reviews season immediately upon conclusion; he would've fired RR sooner if not for the Jan. 1 bowl game.  What date did he fire RR? Jan. 8 IIRC. So, assuming a 1-week review period, DB would then fire Hoke on Dec. 6.  Schlissel fires DB the next day.

It's been done before, wouldn't surprise me to see it that way again.

Yeoman

October 21st, 2014 at 11:18 PM ^

If you're going to have someone new make the decision about a new coach, why not also let him do the evaluation of Hoke? Your timetable has Schlissel cutting the new guy off at the knees the day before he takes the job.

You say it's been done before--can you give an example? It's extremely unusual, out in the world, for a departing executive to be encouraged to make major personnel decisions on his way out the door, after his replacement has already been selected but before he's moved into the office. I don't know why an athletic department would run any differently and it certainly doesn't seem like something Schlissel would be likely to do.

steve sharik

October 22nd, 2014 at 12:52 AM ^

Okay, then.

I don't think it will be directed, but if Brandon is going to continue doing his job his way, then he'll take one week to decide whether or not to keep Hoke.  And since there's almost no way we make a bowl game, I don't see how Brandon can conclude that Hoke's the guy (given Brandon's track record).

UMxWolverines

October 21st, 2014 at 10:35 PM ^

I tend to believe John U Bacon more than Sam Webb and his ''gut feeling'' crapola. 

Brandon around the football program is more toxic for the future than anything. He needs to go. 

603_GoBlue

October 21st, 2014 at 10:38 PM ^

If the plan is to fire Brandon why would you allow him to stay long enough to hire the new coach? Makes zero sense and shows an incompetence that goes farther than brandon and hoke. 

Wouldnt the new AD want to have say in the hiring? if HC position was filled would it not make the AD position less attractive?

Im going to have nightmares tonight. thanks sam webb

Mr Miggle

October 21st, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^

AD job less attractive? If I was an AD candidate I'd be very happy at the prospect of having a top-notch coach already in place. It certainly sounds better than having to fire the current guy, serve on a search committee, negotiate with all sides, deal with the inevitable infghting and not know who you're going to wind up with. If you don't want to work with the new hire, then you don't take the job. Do we want someone who wouldn't hire JH?

Whether it's plausible whether Brandon could hire either Harbaugh, I don't know about that.

Helloheisman

October 21st, 2014 at 10:46 PM ^

Backing the AD to save his job (anti Dave Shand). Sam Webb's cheerleader routine on a daily basis is getting old. I wish we had someone in A2 who called it like it was and didn't play pocket pool in Dave Brandon's pocket. I'll finish off by saying that I value what Brian says more than Sam Webb.

Helloheisman

October 22nd, 2014 at 7:36 AM ^

Sam Webb may have a lot of credibility... But, he does have fan boy tendencies of backing the AD. With everyone coming away with a different story it may be safe to say that no one has a solid pulse on this AD situation. The only consistency we hear from everyone besides Sam Webb is that jim harbaugh will not work for Dave Brandon.

AmishRule

October 21st, 2014 at 10:47 PM ^

If MSU turns us into road kill -- my guess next week will shift the tone of WTKA, many football alumni and others who have tried very hard to be more "calm" regarding our deep shit dive. It's terrible to think that a loss may provide more clarity.

MrJLeet

October 21st, 2014 at 10:48 PM ^

Webb is just too positive for my liking. He's never negative everything is a joke and good with him. He Never says a bad thing about anyone involved with the program

goblue16

October 21st, 2014 at 10:53 PM ^

I listen to his show every morning on my way to school and he's fun to listen to when the program is in a positive direction. But when all hell breaks loose he becomes a lap dog. Everything the staff does is fine and u gotta be patient. I don't understand how he can stay positive through all this.

Kaminski16

October 21st, 2014 at 10:50 PM ^

Didn't Brian address the AD swap timing stuff before and basically said it wouldn't take much more than two weeks notice? Why the big delay? For all we know, they're working on terms with Long or whoever right now; maybe his notice to Arkansas / UConn is already in. Sam's great but I'm not sure I'm with him here. 

RHammer - SNRE 98

October 22nd, 2014 at 10:33 AM ^

...that they've obviously been watching what's going on in Ann Arbor, and are aware of Long's potential as candidate for replacing DB; they've said that the scuttlebutt down there is that he and his family are super happy in Fayetteville, that he is extremely well-liked and respected within the University community, and that the only position he'd potentially leave UofA for would be to replace Mike Slive as the head of the SEC.  

Now, again, that is nothing more than my friend's pro-razorback, SEC-biased view and his reading of various news outlets, blogs, etc., but still...

I personally still think our ADirectorship is a hugely desirable position within college athletics, and Long was (a) hired into the athletic department by Bo, and (b) an associate AD here for 11 years, but I think we should probably hold-off on convincing ourselves that he's already given his notice and is going to jump ship at the drop of a hat...

Moonlight Graham

October 21st, 2014 at 10:54 PM ^

"Hi, uh, Jim? Guess who ... Dave Brandon how are ya." 

"Great Dave, you?"

"Well, not so good actually, as you may know ... um ... well, thanks for taking my call. I was wondering if you could help me out of a little predicament I've gotten myself into." 

"Now why would I want to do that, Dave?" 

...oh, would that be a fun phone call. 

Perkis-Size Me

October 21st, 2014 at 10:53 PM ^

Timing is a bit of an issue, but if we retain DB, you can throw any home run hire, and especially Harbaugh or Miles, right out the window. No coach worth his salt will want DB sitting in on their film sessions, and with the way DB essentially abandoned Hoke to fend for himself during the Shane Morris press conference, why would any coach want to subject themselves to that kind of treatment from their own boss?

Regardless of whoever our AD is at the end of the season, they need to open the checkbook and swing for the damn fences. Go balls to the wall and bring in the best damn coach you can possibly get. If Harbaugh wants $7 million/year, you pay that man $7 million/year. Maybe even $8 million just to be safe. We need someone to turn us around ASAP, or we risk descending ever further into irrelevance. If kids are growing up not ever knowing Michigan to have been a good football team, that's a serious problem.


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Moonlight Graham

October 21st, 2014 at 11:01 PM ^

Is there an MGoBlog diary or post or front page snippet that documents a first-hand eyewitness depiction of Brandon sitting in on those film sessions? Was he critiquing and drawing up new plays? What if DB just goes around as an informed AD sitting in on all his coaches' film sessions and practices from time to time? Again, I want him gone as much as the next guy for a multitude of other reasons, but this whole Dr. Evil-sits-in-on-Number Two's-film-sessions thing has taken on a life of its own. 

This seems to be the #1 "no way Harbaugh would work for Brandon" factor, too: That DB likes to sit in of film sessions. 

Yeoman

October 21st, 2014 at 11:31 PM ^

It's hard to imagine that there ever would be a first-hand account. Who would it come from?

What we have is Bacon's statement in Three And Out that Brandon started watching film with the coordinators beginning with the MSU game in 2010, and Brandon's own statement on the Huge show that he watched film with the coordinators. We also have Bacon's comments that other B1G coaches found this absurd and would never put up with it, and I don't think anyone's ever come up with another example of another AD doing this routinely.

goblue16

October 21st, 2014 at 10:55 PM ^

I hate mike valenti. ive wanted to reach into the radio and punch him. But to be fair the guy tells it as he sees it. Even when it comes to his own program he criticizes them when he needs to and is never really satisfied. Now he's a spartan so it's hard to ever agree with him but when it comes to the state of our program I prefer listening to him the Sam

Mr Miggle

October 21st, 2014 at 11:13 PM ^

regarding Michigan as he sees them through his Sparty filter. He always puts things in a way to get people calling in, usually irate Michigan fans. Whether he's trying to be honest or not, I've never heard any evidence that he knows more about Michigan than the average MGoReader. .

cobra14

October 21st, 2014 at 10:59 PM ^

The little Sam Webb gets he gets from Singeltary. Webb's access has been threaten multiple times as has Singletary's job for giving him info. Beaver destroys a lot of credibility over there and Webb is tied to him. Bacon is out! Guy has changed his story multiple times since this whole thing broke. The Harbaugh family and Brandon are friends! This is all nonsense that Harbaugh wouldn't work under Brandon. And Jim Harbaugh had no desire to be Michigan's head coach when Hoke was hired. Why do you think Ross got involved with rumors about Jim to Miami at the same time? Heat was taken off Brandon with this. This isn't part of the topic but Brian actually said something I agree with... Carr isn't/hasn't pulled any strings! Once he retired he never ever wanted to be Bo and have an office down the hall. We should be so lucky to have a Coach Carr coach this program again!!

massblue

October 21st, 2014 at 11:41 PM ^

any other coach out there would not want to come to UM because of DB. If the issue is DB sitting in the film room, then the coach can negotiate that one out.  He will have a 3-4 year contract and if he is successful, then he would not care if DB is the AD.  This rumor that DB cannot hire Harbaugh for personal reasons, is nonsense.

KBLOW

October 22nd, 2014 at 12:46 AM ^

I bet most follks are friends with a lot of people who they would never want to have as their boss.  If anything, that sort of power dynamic could ruin a friendship, especially between two egos as inflated and self important as Brandon's and Harbaugh's.

AlwaysBlue

October 21st, 2014 at 11:00 PM ^

has given the prez the biggest headaches. And the prez isn't that interested in making football the face of the school. Brandon is the one with the ambition, if not the ability, to bring in a Harbaugh. I talked to a few people close to the money pulse and they want Brandon gone, they want him gone way more than they want Hoke gone. They tell me Brandon is fighting like hell to keep his job but they still want him gone. To a person they wouldn't have a problem if Hoke finished strong and came back. Brandon, on the other hand is dead to them.