Greg Frey reported on campus at FSU (Tomahawk Nation, Land of 10, etc).

Submitted by Wolverine In Iowa 68 on

Tomahawk Nation, Land of 10, and Noles247 are all reporting that Greg Frey has driven to Tallahassee after the Outback Bowl to meet with Willie Taggart.

 

The sites are indicating that the deal looks to be finalized today for him to join the FSU staff

 

Links to the articles:

https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2018/1/…

https://floridastate.247sports.com/Bolt/Florida-State-Seminoles-in-the-…

 

TheReal_GR3

January 2nd, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^

There is no surprise here and no issue. Willie Taggart was with Michigan and the team on New Years Eve night as was Norv Turner (Scott Turner's Dad). This also isn't a surprise to players or parents. 

No issues here. 

CarrIsMyHomeboy

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^

If Frey is gone and Drevno stays, we probably fucked this up bigtime. It's hard to conclude much as an outsider, but I'd find it far easier to believe that Frey was hamstrung by a threatened OL/OC who didn't want Greg or his ideas on their turf than the possibility that Frey was given sufficient latitude to fix the OL the best way he knew how.

If he leaves the M OL post to coach OL at FSU, we should address the strong possibility that he's fleeing a toxic coaching office, rather than the sunshine-blowing "We Dumped Him Because He Didn't Perform" B.S. that is likely to secure Drevno another year of chances.

Hail to the Vi…

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^

I think if you take play calling responsibility away from Drevno so he can focus on DEVLOPING the players along the offensive line this can work, but JH needs to have what probably would be a sobering discussion with Drevno around what his role will be and what is needed from him to help the offense succeed.

It appears that playcalling is not one of Drevno's strong suits (quite frankly I like Pep Hamilton's even less from I've seen between '16 and '17). His offensive lines were fine-to-good when his job title was "Offensive Line Coach". If that's not what Drevno wants, then he should be instructed to find employment elsewhere. Not everone is destined to call plays and run programs (see: Hoke, Brady). Jim Harbaugh's meritocracy must also apply to the coaching staff.

Youngharbaugh4

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:18 PM ^

I thought this from the beginning. When you have two coaches on the line, the players are working around two coaches. With one coach, the players can be cohesive, everyone will work in one group during practice and a system can be implemented by one coach. Every protection or blocking scheme will be taught by one coach and it won’t be so chopped up. Also, jay harbs can move back to TE coach.

Bb011

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^

I think Frey is a great coach. With that said I really don't think he was a good fit for what Michigan is trying to do with their line. As long as we can bring in another quality coach I think we will be better off. 

Michigan4Life

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^

2010 Michigan OL would be the best line that Michigan would field in this decade. They were great in pass pro and run blocking. 4 of them went on to play in the NFL. He recruited and developed Taylor Lewan, Stephen Schilling, Dave Molk, Patrick Omamaeh.  All of them are 100000x better than the dumpster fire of Michigan OL (with the exception of Mason Cole who is a NFL prospect in his own right and happen to pay wayyyyy out of position).

Michigan averaged 230 rushing yards a game in that year which is more than any Harbaugh coached offense can say.

If he was crap the first time at Michigan, I'd love to see fantastic coach based on your standard.  That would mean Michigan would have 5 1st round picks at OL and average 1000 rushing yards a game.

blue in dc

January 2nd, 2018 at 5:12 PM ^

And he gets credit for developing Molk and Schilling, he did not recruit them. Schilling was a 2006 recruit and Molk was a 2007 recruit. The only 3 o-line recruits in the first Frey tenure to turn out well were: Lewan, Omareh and Schofield.

BlueWon

January 2nd, 2018 at 7:12 PM ^

He's a very good OL coach but it would have taken time to make the transition and develop the 250 lb TE's into OT's. I remember when RR ired him he said he could coach either zone or gap but we know they went exclusively zone then.

Bones032

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:38 PM ^

Watch out OP. I posted that he seemed to be going to FSU 2 weeks ago and everyone attacked me and negged me, and then the Mods deleted my post.

Huzilla

January 2nd, 2018 at 5:06 PM ^

I think it's absolutely stupid that the mgoblog community negged the OP for posting the Grey Frey to FSU rumors solely because ChatSports was the source.  

ChatSports is pretty upfront that a lot of what they present are rumors and most of what they present as "rumors" are just facts. As an example, they mentioned Shea Patterson and his two teammates as rumor when they were already on campus.

On the case of Greg Frey, ChatSports is ABSOLUTELY corrrect and they were the first to report it.  Give credit where credit is due.  Our community on mgoblog needs to have a thicker skin on this.

Bones032

January 2nd, 2018 at 6:57 PM ^

I linked a chatsports article, but also mentioned my brother(who is an FSU alum and close with a couple big boosters). He told me it was happening and then I saw the chatsports rumors and posted. But for those that bashed me then, you can all GTFO. BTW, my brother said the deal is done, announcing it in the next couple days.

Ty Butterfield

January 2nd, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^

Frey may not have meshed well with the current staff. Sometimes things just don’t work out. However I hope the rumors about Greg Roman are not true. Michigan does not need another NFL guy. Enos may not seem like a big splash hire initially but he is a college coach. Michigan needs to run a system geared more towards what college players can actually do. No thanks to another failed NFL coach.

Don

January 2nd, 2018 at 5:18 PM ^

but anybody saying he's not a very capable OL coach is an idiot. This is FSU's gain and our loss, especially if Drevno remains OC and OL coach.

BlueMk1690

January 2nd, 2018 at 5:17 PM ^

in the dramatic offensive regression this year. When Frey came to Michigan in 2008, the O-Line was a disaster for 1-2 years. Not because Frey is necessarily a bad coach but because the O-Line was always gonna be the place where the culture shock from Carr to Rich Rod was felt most acutely.

While we didn't switch from a pro style offense to a zone spread option offense...Frey was obviously asked to install *some* of that. Now you had to bring together Drevno's approach and Frey's approach...and Harbaugh's offensive ideals.

I have a strong hunch that this would be pretty confusing for young offensive linemen and make it a lot harder to step up than it would be for someone in a system where they knew on day 1 what they'd run until the day they graduate. One constant theme this year was the perceived lack of identity and lack of rhythm on offense. Things felt very disjointed..almost like when Rich Rod tried to run his system with Carr's players..or when Hoke tried to play Manball with Rich Rod's players..

The Hoke/Harbaugh transition was mercifully free of that chaos..as Harbaugh's offensive ideas didn't deviate in quite as fundamental terms from what we ran 2011-2014. But then Frey comes in and things look very disjointed on offense and the offensive line in particular looks to be way out of its depth.

Of course, they were also inexperienced..but the best way to help someone inexperienced is to simplify things for them. Trying to mix two separate schools of thought of offensive line play is the *opposite* because you dramatically increase the quantity in concepts they have to learn, understand and execute.

In my day job, I work in quality management. From my own experience I can tell you that quality *always* suffers if you expand the routine scope of your staff and there is a point where you risk overwhelming people. Jacks of all trades, masters of none. I had a sneaking thought all year that this may have happened here.

NashvilleBLUE

January 2nd, 2018 at 6:53 PM ^

So, I’ll do some speculating, because, what else is there to do? Promotion at another school potentials: Partridge (please no) Zordich (dear God please no) Frey (sounds like a done deal) Hand shakes: Pep Hamilton (seems unlikely after 1 year) Drevno (hate to say it, but I’d welcome it) Jay Harbaugh (highly doubt it) Internal promotions; Bush Sr seems like a no brainer Turner (maybe to fill a Pep role) Anything I’m not thinking of?

UMFanstuckinOhio

January 2nd, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^

Drevno, Pep and Frey all gone to other jobs and Greg Roman and Dan Enos are in. Also possibly new WR coach and RB coach. The next few days could be intresting.

uminks

January 3rd, 2018 at 1:08 AM ^

is a good sign, in that Harbaugh will be staying as our HC and not jumping to the NFL.

If Drevno stays he must become the full time OLINE coach and not be the OC. Hamilton should be let go. I'd rather Harbaugh just go find a good OC at a school that scores a lot of points.