Greg Frey reported on campus at FSU (Tomahawk Nation, Land of 10, etc).
Tomahawk Nation, Land of 10, and Noles247 are all reporting that Greg Frey has driven to Tallahassee after the Outback Bowl to meet with Willie Taggart.
The sites are indicating that the deal looks to be finalized today for him to join the FSU staff
Links to the articles:
https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-noles/2018/1/…
https://floridastate.247sports.com/Bolt/Florida-State-Seminoles-in-the-…
January 2nd, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^
There is no surprise here and no issue. Willie Taggart was with Michigan and the team on New Years Eve night as was Norv Turner (Scott Turner's Dad). This also isn't a surprise to players or parents.
No issues here.
January 2nd, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 3:56 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^
They're all compared to Jake Fisher and he turned out fine at Oregon even though Frey wasn't there. I'm sure Michigan's new tackle coach will be able to mold them as well.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 6:43 PM ^
They are now TEs.
January 3rd, 2018 at 12:38 AM ^
on those big bodies. Turn them into Jakes.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^
If Frey is gone and Drevno stays, we probably fucked this up bigtime. It's hard to conclude much as an outsider, but I'd find it far easier to believe that Frey was hamstrung by a threatened OL/OC who didn't want Greg or his ideas on their turf than the possibility that Frey was given sufficient latitude to fix the OL the best way he knew how.
If he leaves the M OL post to coach OL at FSU, we should address the strong possibility that he's fleeing a toxic coaching office, rather than the sunshine-blowing "We Dumped Him Because He Didn't Perform" B.S. that is likely to secure Drevno another year of chances.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
He was lame duck as soon as Michigan abandoned zone concepts. Once that experiment was over, he had no long term prospects at Michigan. Harbaugh probably made the first call to Taggert.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:15 PM ^
I think if you take play calling responsibility away from Drevno so he can focus on DEVLOPING the players along the offensive line this can work, but JH needs to have what probably would be a sobering discussion with Drevno around what his role will be and what is needed from him to help the offense succeed.
It appears that playcalling is not one of Drevno's strong suits (quite frankly I like Pep Hamilton's even less from I've seen between '16 and '17). His offensive lines were fine-to-good when his job title was "Offensive Line Coach". If that's not what Drevno wants, then he should be instructed to find employment elsewhere. Not everone is destined to call plays and run programs (see: Hoke, Brady). Jim Harbaugh's meritocracy must also apply to the coaching staff.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:18 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:11 PM ^
I think Frey is a great coach. With that said I really don't think he was a good fit for what Michigan is trying to do with their line. As long as we can bring in another quality coach I think we will be better off.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:14 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
It would have been a better story if he walked there. Can we just say he did that?
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:47 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:33 PM ^
Meh. He did absolutely nothing to make the OL better. He arguably helped make it worse.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^
Frey was crap at Michigan both times. Bye bye.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
2010 Michigan OL would be the best line that Michigan would field in this decade. They were great in pass pro and run blocking. 4 of them went on to play in the NFL. He recruited and developed Taylor Lewan, Stephen Schilling, Dave Molk, Patrick Omamaeh. All of them are 100000x better than the dumpster fire of Michigan OL (with the exception of Mason Cole who is a NFL prospect in his own right and happen to pay wayyyyy out of position).
Michigan averaged 230 rushing yards a game in that year which is more than any Harbaugh coached offense can say.
If he was crap the first time at Michigan, I'd love to see fantastic coach based on your standard. That would mean Michigan would have 5 1st round picks at OL and average 1000 rushing yards a game.
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:05 PM ^
They also had Denard that year...so I would take the 230 rushing yards credited to the O-line with a grain of salt
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:47 PM ^
involves with QB running the ball is still part of the rushing attack. To say QB rushing yards shouldn't be part of the stat is an insult to the OL since they call a lot of QB draw, power, counter, option, etc.
It's like saying GT rushing attack isnt' good because QB ran for 1000 yards for the season.
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:12 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 7:12 PM ^
He's a very good OL coach but it would have taken time to make the transition and develop the 250 lb TE's into OT's. I remember when RR ired him he said he could coach either zone or gap but we know they went exclusively zone then.
January 3rd, 2018 at 12:47 AM ^
Dlines destroyed them.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:38 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:45 PM ^
you cited ChatSports as the source of the rumor. That site isn't allowed.
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:06 PM ^
I think it's absolutely stupid that the mgoblog community negged the OP for posting the Grey Frey to FSU rumors solely because ChatSports was the source.
ChatSports is pretty upfront that a lot of what they present are rumors and most of what they present as "rumors" are just facts. As an example, they mentioned Shea Patterson and his two teammates as rumor when they were already on campus.
On the case of Greg Frey, ChatSports is ABSOLUTELY corrrect and they were the first to report it. Give credit where credit is due. Our community on mgoblog needs to have a thicker skin on this.
January 2nd, 2018 at 6:57 PM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 10:23 AM ^
I neither bashed you, nor downvoted you.
I was simply explaining why you got bashed and downvoted (for linking the ChatSports article).
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:39 PM ^
Good luck to him. Jim can now focus on getting a home-run OL coach hire
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:44 PM ^
but I think Frey is a better O-line coach than Drevno is an OC.
This is Harbaugh doing the minumum, & not firing his buddy.
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:46 PM ^
It's about damn time
January 2nd, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:14 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:18 PM ^
but anybody saying he's not a very capable OL coach is an idiot. This is FSU's gain and our loss, especially if Drevno remains OC and OL coach.
January 2nd, 2018 at 8:15 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:17 PM ^
in the dramatic offensive regression this year. When Frey came to Michigan in 2008, the O-Line was a disaster for 1-2 years. Not because Frey is necessarily a bad coach but because the O-Line was always gonna be the place where the culture shock from Carr to Rich Rod was felt most acutely.
While we didn't switch from a pro style offense to a zone spread option offense...Frey was obviously asked to install *some* of that. Now you had to bring together Drevno's approach and Frey's approach...and Harbaugh's offensive ideals.
I have a strong hunch that this would be pretty confusing for young offensive linemen and make it a lot harder to step up than it would be for someone in a system where they knew on day 1 what they'd run until the day they graduate. One constant theme this year was the perceived lack of identity and lack of rhythm on offense. Things felt very disjointed..almost like when Rich Rod tried to run his system with Carr's players..or when Hoke tried to play Manball with Rich Rod's players..
The Hoke/Harbaugh transition was mercifully free of that chaos..as Harbaugh's offensive ideas didn't deviate in quite as fundamental terms from what we ran 2011-2014. But then Frey comes in and things look very disjointed on offense and the offensive line in particular looks to be way out of its depth.
Of course, they were also inexperienced..but the best way to help someone inexperienced is to simplify things for them. Trying to mix two separate schools of thought of offensive line play is the *opposite* because you dramatically increase the quantity in concepts they have to learn, understand and execute.
In my day job, I work in quality management. From my own experience I can tell you that quality *always* suffers if you expand the routine scope of your staff and there is a point where you risk overwhelming people. Jacks of all trades, masters of none. I had a sneaking thought all year that this may have happened here.
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:50 PM ^
I concur.
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:26 PM ^
wondering who we get to replace?
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:45 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:49 PM ^
Thanks
January 2nd, 2018 at 6:53 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:45 PM ^
Because Football Scoop reported it, and their source was verified by mgoblog as Chat Sports.
LA, LA, LA, NOT LISTENING, LA LA LA
January 2nd, 2018 at 5:57 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 6:26 PM ^
I have no clue if he was a plus or not, but he's been good everywhere else he's been
January 2nd, 2018 at 6:29 PM ^
January 2nd, 2018 at 11:23 PM ^
January 3rd, 2018 at 1:08 AM ^
is a good sign, in that Harbaugh will be staying as our HC and not jumping to the NFL.
If Drevno stays he must become the full time OLINE coach and not be the OC. Hamilton should be let go. I'd rather Harbaugh just go find a good OC at a school that scores a lot of points.