Greg Frey blown away by Harbaugh staff's creativity
Frey's been a part of Bobby Bowden's, Jim Leavitt's, Rich Rod's and Kevin Wilson's offenses, but "this is special."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2017/03/the_creativity_of_mic…
and his ability to coach up an offensive line. This is his third year here, he's had very good recruits to work with, but the Oline is still a quivering mass of uncertainty. I have seen no progress on development of individual players or on the Oline as a unit.
This is the year we either need to start seeing some real improvement in our offensive linemen, or start looking for a replacement for Drevno. With the talent he has here, there is no reason it should take 4 or 5 years to field a quality unit. What he did at Stanford is irrelevant. If he can't get the job done HERE, with these players, within this system, then we need to look for someone better.
I like this part:
. After Frey's offensive line/running game ripped Michigan's defense to shreds during a two-overtime game at Indiana in 2015, Harbaugh left the field with one thought in his brain. Whoever's coaching the front five at Indiana knows what he's doing. That guy can coach.
I love how Harbaugh is never satisfied and always looking to improve. Our defense was ripped apart by IU and OSU at the end of the 2015 regular season, and rather than chalk it up to bad injury luck or something else, he went out and got the best DC he could find (Don Brown), and then hired the coach of the IU OL that gave us fits. It's awesome.
Hire the officiating crew, so we don't have to deal with them again.
Do we ever lose a big game without some portion of our fanbase whining about how the officials must have been paid off to make calls in favor of the other team? It's juvenile, it's insulting, and it makes Michigan fans look like crybabies and sore losers.
Get over it. Move on. No one has any sympathy for fans who are still bitching about bad calls months or years later, even if they actually were bad calls.
AA Forever is to football what Maizen is to basketball. He was trolling hard after the MSU game:
Our defense is clearly overrated, and Harbaugh, for the second year in a row, went hyper-conservative and could not finish Dantonio off. I don't see any way he beats him any year when the talent is even close.
Dantonio outcoached Harbaugh completely in the second half and almost won a game he had no business even being close in. Not only did they outscore us in the second half, but they moved the ball very easily on every drive.
Looking terrible and almost losing against a team with hardly any talent? Getting outhustled, outplayed and outcoached? There was nothing to be proud of or happy about in a "win" that was almost a loss. It certainly doesn't bode well for the rest of the season.
it's the fact that we are 0 for 9 in attempting to look good against a Dantonio coached team.
It was about as humiliating a win as you could imagine. So, no. I'm never happy about looking terrible.
State came very close to winning.
Big money NFL offers were bound to come. Obviously, Harbaugh is not going to bail after two years, and probably not after three, but after that, all bets are off. The posters who think they know how Harbaugh is going to feel about his job situation here in 2, 3, 4 years really don't, no matter how much they try to reassure themselves.
Which RCMB poster is this, any guesses?
you can either prove what you say or admit you're just flinging insults.
I've been a Michigan fan since '70. What are your credentials?
You're an idiot and we only look like whiners to the idiots who are just stupid enough to not try and get some action taken so games aren't decided by refs. The real fans know it isn't whining when thousands of people are trying to do away with these things that make being a fan suck. We just want to see the game the way it should be played. I'm retty sure none of us care that there isn't any sympathy from anyone like yourself. Go ahead man, keep being one of the many fans that doesn't care how the game is decided, whether it be right or wrong. Fuck head.
on the field and in the booth - is real.
That game was emblematic.
I know you're just being funny, and Urban did blow us out of the water 2 years ago, but we seriously kicked their ass for 95% of a game in Columbus last season - like really dominated them. I've never seen anyone shut down Meyer's offense like that for a whole game without bad weather. They had less than 100 yards in the first half!! The only reason that they had a chance to send it to OT were the refs and a couple turnovers from our injured QB. Our DL beat their OL absolutely senseless, and we completely outcoached them in regulation.
I know I should have just upvoted you for the humor, but I'm still pretty incensed about the outcome there. I don't know when I'll get over it, that team deserved a win that they'll never be recognized for.
clemson did it for 4 quarters
Clemson's defensive line was seriously under-appreciated, what with all the focus on Watson and their offense. Their D-Line was awesome in that game against Ohio State.
Because Watson/Clemson was putting up points at a steady rate, the defense didn't feel as much pressure.
It was a 3 score by halftime. I'm sure our defense would've loved that kind of a margin to take more risks in the 2nd half.
I agree here, the offense was the differential factor. Ours had moments where it performed alright, but crucial turnovers and, eventually, a devastating inability to gain first downs when one or two would have won the game, wore them down.
And still it took a too-close-to-call spot play.
I think we'll look back at our 2016 offense in a few years and wonder how we were so close to being a playoff team with the decidedly Hoke level of talent we had on the field. At every position, basically.
some might not like to hear it but thats pretty accurate
I've said this to many people since the season ended - I don't think people will look back on 2016 and question the play calling or offensive production, but instead they will look back and wonder how this staff was able to get as much out of that talent as they did. Outside of Jake Butt and Amara Darboh, there were no elite players on this offense. Speight may be a very solid QB when he leaves Michigan, but he was a first year starter last year and probably the least naturally talented QB Jim will ever have here. The OL was still very mediocre last year with our best lineman being a center that still got dominated at times. Our RB, God bless him, was physical and a great blocker but couldn't run a sub 4.7 forty if his life and his family's lives depended on it. Our #2 receiver had great straight line speed but took a major step back after his injury in the bowl game last year and caught the ball with his body too much.
Don't get me wrong, 2016 was one of my favorite Michigan teams of all time. Everyone on the team was a great person and teammate by all accounts, but Harbaugh should have had a playoff team with very little more than a stellar defense. I think to be as good as we were on offense last year is quite impressive.
Maybe not if you are only looking at raw stats, but I said elite players not seasons. Darboh and Butt are both elite at their positions for college players, and they will both have good pro careers. They were our best offensive weapons last year but a solid margin.
We're going to have a bunch of guys drafted, but only a couple of them are elite level difference makers. How many of these guys are once in a decade, once in a generation talents, and how many of them are good, solid NFL role players that can and should be replaced by guys with comparable skill?
Then you have to consider that Hoke's recruiting dipped after that class; we got Peppers and not a whole lot else in terms of great NFL prospects. There was and still is somewhat of a hole in this roster left over from the end of the Hoke period. Until Harbaugh gets a full rotation, I don't believe we will have seen a fully loaded roster at UM in quite some time.
I also believe, for those that haven't already realized it, this offensive line in retrospect is going to be a glaring weakness. People will look back at a few of our defensive players and understand why we were so good. But they'll also look back at the offense - in particular the line - and understand why we didn't win any titles.
We had enough talent last year that we could have/should have won more games. But we didn't have such an overwhelming advantage that we could afford a down game (Iowa) or to be anything less than perfect against OSU/FSU. By comparison, I do think that Harbaugh will have this roster loaded enough once he's had a full cycle that we can almost sleepwalk through 10ish games per year the way Bama and OSU are able to do most of the time.
They also did it with a month of rest & planning instead of at the end of a brutal season, not to mention ref's that weren't actively rooting for OSU, and at a neutral site. Give UM Clemson's offense and see how the OSU game turns out! Taking nothing away from Clemson's D because they were elite as well, but I would argue what Michigan's D did was more impressive overall.
If we had Clemson's offense, the outcome of The Game would have been nearly identical to the playoff game, even in Columbus with Ohio refs.
Completely agree (maybe, not 95%...but we get the point).
Harbaugh and his staff got their asses whopped in a WIN over IU a couple of years ago. Harbaugh and his staff whopped some ass in a loss to OSU last year.
#Sports
The contrast with Hoke, who stuck with Funk and only reluctantly let go of Borges, is pretty striking. And, unfortunately, so is the contrast with Carr, who was open to new ideas (spread punting! Zone blocking!) but didn't have a staff that could implement them and declined opportunities to upgrade that staff.
Why are people on this board such assholes?