Former Football players to hold press conference tomorrow about sexual assault allegations.
Tweet via David Jesse.
https://twitter.com/reporterdavidj/status/1404778587132211205?s=21
Do the right thing by these men and begin the healing process. The longer this goes, the worse it is for them. We need to make sure we get it right.
I thought for a minute it was going to be another tone-deaf defense of Bo press conference but glad to see it's from the survivors.
We need to hire the Catholic Church's PR team ASAP.
Wow... that's a bad take on so many different levels!
Those would simply be Cardinals.
The sad thing is that this is all speculation as the other parties cant defend themselves. Not sure why this did not come out sooner so that all involved can have their say. If this is true, then it's really sad that a football program covered it up! I just don't understand why people wait so long when confronting issues then everyone starts to pile on.
I hope that the truth comes out and I am in no way siding with Bo!
The sad thing is almost 900 people were sexually assaulted of the course of almost 40 years. End of story.
That shouldn’t be the end of the story. What is the university doing today so that nothing like this ever happens again?
Agree, I was just pointing out what the sad part was.
And I think Michigan is dealing with several sex scandals right now with professors and admins having been accused or found guilty of all sorts of misconduct. The plaintiffs' lawyers are going to draw a line between the culture of Anderson and a culture that exists today.
The reason why these things don't come out before is because of Bo's response at the time. If he didn't take the allegations seriously when they happened, why would he take them seriously if he was accused of doing nothing 20 years later? He was a revered figure of the Michigan athletic community. He had far more power than a current or former player. It is often more likely that the accuser would be ostracized than the accusation be taken seriously.
If you want to know why survivors don't always come out immediately after their experience, just look at the players defending Bo without acknowledging that he might have severely wronged others.
I really don't get this perspective. In reality, those people died with everyone still giving them respect and admiration they didn't deserve. They died with no consequences for this. How is that sad? They got away with it, leaving those they injured without an opportunity to see them get justice and closure. That's sad.
How would it cease being speculation if Anderson or Bo were alive? I guess if they confessed to everything that would end it, but anything less than that isn’t going to settle anything.
I live in central Ohio and nobody that I know is talking about this subject. I heard a brief discussion on the local sports talk. A five minute segment and then they quickly moved on. I wonder if people are becoming numb to these announcements or maybe it’s because Ohio State had a scandal of their own.
I’m known as the Michigan fan at work and nobody has even mentioned it to me. I’m not sure what I was expecting, but I guess I thought this would be a much bigger story nationally. It’s almost as if people just accept this crap used to happen. Compensate the victims, make sure it doesn’t happen again and move on.
I also live in central Ohio and am a Buckeye fan. I can say that it is definitely a known subject, but stuff like this is not something that people want to be seen as "piling on". I think that's most likely why there was a lack of media exposure around here. Even a completely unbiased report of what is happening can be twisted into a story about how fans have no limits.
Personally, I'd feel this way even if the Strauss situation wouldn't have happened at OSU. This isn't a time of worrying about skeletons in closets. I've followed most of the developments of this here, and have made mention in the small discussions on OSU boards that the majority of UM fans are being very level headed about this situation.
It's a compliment to the majority on this board. There are outliers, but overall this subject has been approached with a solid understanding of right/wrong regardless of fan allegiance.
I'm a M grad who's lived in Northern Ohio since 1988. I wear M gear frequently and have an M flag flying in my front yard most of the time. I have Michigan alumni plate frames for my car and wear the Michigan alumni association zip up to work. I have the "day after" newspaper headlines up from 89 & 97 in my office too so absolutely NO secret where I'm from and where I went to school and other than my huge OSU honk BF not one person has mentioned the Anderson situation to me. Not one.
And i havent heard it discussed once on 810 or 92.3 (local sports radio) either. it's a non-story down here.
I don't think most people are desensitized to widespread abuse, criminality, and trauma, but I definitely think they're numb to institutional blundering and cover ups.
How come Moeller or Carr haven't been asked any questions about this yet?, Anderson was there for both of them?
I think that time is coming. And many other assistants and support staff too, especially after the accusations that they were using threats of trips to see Dr. Anderson as a motivation technique.
In part because multiple players said they went to Bo and asked for help. I don’t believe there are any reported instances of this being the case with either Moeller or Carr.
How is the statue still up?
There is a shortage of construction workers right now.
From the online petition in support of Bo (link).
"Our experiences tell us that the Bo Schembechler we knew would never have tolerated any abuse or mistreatment of his players, his staff, or any other individual. We believe firmly, that if he were aware of such behavior, Coach Schembechler would have acted immediately to put a stop to it and would have made sure anyone responsible for it would have been removed from the University of Michigan football program."
I.E. We believe anyone saying "Bo knew" is lying.
Ugh- "The Bo we knew".
You can ask every person I've ever connected with about the "me" they knew, and get all different perspectives, some with shared ideas about me, and some that differ vastly, depending on what stage of life they've met me in, how we connected, and where they were at in their lives.
As MGoStrength mentioned above, using different phrasing, 'we are all things', capable of great acts of lovingkindness, and also some pretty awful shit. The error is getting stuck in dialectical thinking and 'value-based' judgement, and neglecting our gift of discriminative judgement.
Can't fucking wait.
Detroit News:
Another man is expected to say publicly that he alerted former University of Michigan football coach Bo Schembechler to alleged sexual assaults by former Dr. Robert Anderson.
The man, formerly associated with UM athletics, is set to join with more than three dozen Anderson accusers during a 10 a.m. press conference Wednesday near Michigan Stadium to detail claims that he was a victim of Anderson and informed Schembechler and former UM Athletic Director Don Canham at the time, according to John Sellek, a spokesperson for the group expected to attend.
Double.
Question: Do we know how many ex-players actually approached Bo? Just curious.
I thought I heard over 800 ex-players are now part of the assault allegations, however I am under the impression the actual number of players that may have vocalized a complaint directly to Bo is approximately a dozen or so.
That number sounds right, I think 12 said they told him. But many of the others said he had to know and that it was not a secret.
Important to note that ones who did talk to Bo said their teammates told them they better not pursue it because their scholarship could be in jeopardy, "don't rock the boat."
And that 850 victims are not all ex football players, there are many regular students, many athletes from other teams, several wrestlers are known. And I read that several dozen women are among the victims, not sure on that though, but the school was sued in 1995 by a woman over Dr. Anderson's sexual assault of her during a physical.
Thank you
Another huge payout will be needed. Thankfully they have enormous cash reserves to fall back on. With Covid and now this,.. tough run indeed.
Sorry, smacks as a big money grab $1 BILLION 30-40 years after "alleged" incidents.
How about they just tell their story, we take down Bo statue but no cash payouts? -Ain't going to happen.
All about money after they seen the MSU payouts.
Have you actually read the Wilmerhale report?
This is an awful take and you should feel bad
"Alleged"? With quotation marks even? You think they are making this up?
I don't know why, but I continue to be amazed at the lack of even basic levels of empathy by some people.
You are part of the problem.
Yep thats what they “seen.”
I feel bad for that kid in your avatar, you ignorant hilljack
May God go with them, it is not easy to come forward like they are, but it's clear that with morally repugnant people like Brandstatter running their mouths, this is necessary.
It takes an army of victims to overcome the kind of institutional garbage we're dealing with here.
Brandstetter should be let go.
Sexual assaults are surely seen as depraved; accusations from the dead should be met with fierce skepticism. Bo's innocence or guilt is near impossible to determine at this point; he is also unable to mount his own defense with his own story.
This is turning into a war between Bo's loyal players and the victims; we in turn are merely able to gossip.
Worship of a football coach is and always was ridiculous to begin with. Cultish.
They're going to say that Moeller and Carr knew, which, like, how could they not if they were assistants all that time. Sadly neither is in any kind of shape these days to be able to explain themselves.
Well that was brutal. The survivors are holding Michigan today accountable and say the culture still exists. Student broadcaster told Bo 3 times and Bo eventually screamed at Don Canham, "Why isn't he fired yet?" So Bo was aware, but it sounds like Canham wouldn't fire him, at least in 1983. Why didn't Bo then fire him when he was the AD?
This is so wrong, why is this happening?
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverin…