File this under things you can't make up: Indiana contacted Big Ten over controversial calls from Michigan game
I have no words.
Indiana was the victim of a few questionable calls during its Week 7 game against the Wolverines, two of which proved to be devastating for the Hoosiers. The first was a defensive pass interference call that negated a Rashard Fant interception. The other, and maybe even more important, was an onside kick that Simmie Cobbs appeared to possess while in bounds late in the game.
Allen was livid with those two calls on Saturday and still isn’t too happy about the ruling early this week. But the Hoosiers’ head coach has taken the proper steps in making the conference aware of his concerns.
“There’s a protocol for that,” Allen said during his press conference on Monday. “We’ve had good discussions, very professional, handled the right way.”
October 16th, 2017 at 6:13 PM ^
Comparing it to the PI call on Hill when he intercepted that crossing pattern.
On Hills, he jammed the guy, and then moved his body in front to get his hands on the ball and intercept. The interception happened maybe 9 yards from the LOS.
On the PI call on the sideline, the guy had his hand on the receiver's shoulder when they were 15 yards downfield, and had hold of his jersey at 25+. Yes, he got his head around and obviously played the ball well. Normally, I'm pretty good with that kind of play being uncalled, but I didn't think it was a HORRIBLE call.
The call against Hill was, IMO, worse, since they were still so close to the LOS, and he didn't grab the guys jersey at all.
Rob
Video of Hill interception: 4:50
Video of Fants interception against McDoom: 14:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB-yFlrRo_E
October 16th, 2017 at 7:29 PM ^
Fant had his arm completely extended on McDoom as well. He not only grabbed his jersey but he stiff armed him away from trying to make a play on the ball. Again, it wasn't flagrant but it did happen. McDoom also should have tried to make more of a play on the ball and the PI would have been more obvious.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:45 PM ^
The refs helped Indiana to the tune of 10 points. We got screwed.
October 16th, 2017 at 10:54 PM ^
we still won!
October 16th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^
How could anybody think that wasn't the right call (Indiana included) after seeing the replay? And the pass interference was tic for tac UM had an interception taken away on the same exact type of contact. Never mind the uncatchable one that went in Indiana's favor.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:52 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 6:11 PM ^
I remember as a kid I used to think the logo was a red cactus. Even now, after living in Indiana for over a decade, I'm still not exactly sure what a Hoosier is... but I'm 99% sure that it is not a red cactus.
October 16th, 2017 at 7:53 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 9:52 PM ^
Those millennials and their damn symbols...
October 16th, 2017 at 9:54 PM ^
...Now I get it.
October 16th, 2017 at 4:56 PM ^
I'll be honest, I've seen a lot of people being upset with the lack of intentional grounding calls, I only saw 3 that I think people are getting upset about.
2 were on screens that Michigan had very well covered. IU QB saw this and turfed them both about five yards in front of the RB on the screen. It was very obvious he was just throwing them into the ground, but the rule is very vague, stating that a receiver needs to be "in the area". Technically, he was.
The one that most people are grumbling about, on the last IU drive of the game, IU QB getting sacked and he throws it over the middle of the field. Again, it was clear that this was a "throw away so I don't get sacked" situation, but there was a WR about 5-7 yards away. The rule sucks and all verbage in the rule book allows for a lot of wiggle room on what "in the viscinity" means, but I don't think either warranted a flag based on the rules.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:40 PM ^
I think you missed one. How about where there were 3 seconds left with 0 timeouts and instead of spiking the ball Ramsey inexplicably threw it unmistakably out of bounds? It was a freshman mistake because he didn't need to do it, but it was still a mistake and should have been game over (man)
October 16th, 2017 at 6:52 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 8:15 PM ^
I get the reaction, but am I wrong? QBs can catapult a throw OOB but if there's a WR under it it doesn't really matter how high it is, right?
October 16th, 2017 at 10:53 PM ^
October 17th, 2017 at 11:50 AM ^
That, just like spiking the ball to stop the clock, is perfectly legal.
Intentional grounding requires the throw to be "attempting to save yardage".
If you aren't attempting to save yardage - you can throw the ball anywhere... straight into the ground, out of bounds, etc. and it isn't intentional grounding.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:06 PM ^
I don't see a problem with Indiana being upset, there were some bad bad calls that wen't against them and could have changed the outcome of the game. The refs were bad both ways, I honestly didn't feel like Michigan got an advantage or disadvantage from the shit refs. Michigan was playing kind of stupid and sloppy and like 10-12 of those penalties were legit.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:12 PM ^
Given that we had 16 penalties for 141 yards and they had 5 penalties for 55, I'd venture that we were disadvantaged,
October 16th, 2017 at 6:23 PM ^
i have to admit you say some of the dumbest and most misinformed shit i have ever read.. please just admit you say this stuff just to get attention.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:21 PM ^
16 penalties for 141 yards = UM; 5 penalties for 55 yards IN ...exactly what algorithm is IN applying to this equation to substantiate the one-sided officiating...against them!?
October 16th, 2017 at 7:18 PM ^
16 ACCEPTED penalties. Remember the 3 penalties on 1 play! Two of those were declined for the "roughing the passer" (BS Call).
October 16th, 2017 at 10:11 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:25 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:53 PM ^
I'll trade this game for rightful recognition of the last Ohio State game.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:27 PM ^
could be called on just about every pass play - and with that said, the how/why an official chooses to flag one an ignore countless others is monumentally frustrating
that holding call they called on UM's long snapper (on UM's last punt) wasn't even close to a holding call...or as the broadcaster suggested 'he tackled him' - no, he blocked him into the ground, which is what they're (OL) taught
October 16th, 2017 at 5:31 PM ^
This coach is a very unlikable douche.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:08 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:33 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:34 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 5:36 PM ^
What is it about the state of Indiana thats producing so many whiny-ass coaches?
October 16th, 2017 at 6:41 PM ^
Did he hit his own player with the wad of gum?
October 16th, 2017 at 5:37 PM ^
I'm tried of Bob from State Farm, or Ed the gym teacher officiating games. When the hell will the B1G step up and hire professionals. I know when - when hell freezes over.
October 16th, 2017 at 5:59 PM ^
It's "JAKE" from State Farm! CUMONG, man! Everybody knows that.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^
Khakis.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^
What an ass.
October 16th, 2017 at 8:03 PM ^
Double standards.
October 17th, 2017 at 11:52 AM ^
Guaranteed that Harbaugh (or someone from the team) did this, and does this every game.
EVERY team sends film of what they think are missed calls, EVERY game.
October 16th, 2017 at 6:44 PM ^
Postured against all calls assessed Indiana beginning early in the game and including unquestionable flags. Still I'm okay with Allen's complaints because B1G officiating has been terrible consistently. Harbaugh cannot attack the refs solo and so the more the merrier if his fellow B1G coaches whine and lodge grievances. It might take some of the heat off us.
October 16th, 2017 at 10:14 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 7:02 PM ^
so that is quite a delusional reach. 16 penalities on Michigan not enough, plus Scales could have been ejected on the helmet to helmet on JOK. Most of the p i calls and non calls seemed to go I U's way through my maize and blue glasses. The pi on Long late right befor he got hurt was pretty weak imho, especially compared to how they played DPJ. Interesting perspective.
October 16th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 7:22 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 7:53 PM ^
So two whole calls went against IU---BFD. Way more than that went against U-M. As mentioned earlier, it unconscionable for a conference pulling in over $400M annually to not have professional refs. But then...Delany.
October 16th, 2017 at 8:31 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 10:15 PM ^
October 16th, 2017 at 9:17 PM ^
lol...
When Michigan does it: We reviewed the game and the refs were fine.
When anybody else does it: Mistakes were made by the officials.
October 16th, 2017 at 10:04 PM ^