Does the Tucker situation help or hurt MSU?

I am curious how much they will be able to muster without those big donations/if they have to give Tucker a buyout to go quitely into the night.

I would imagine any school with poor talent compared to their brand/expectations/resources without academic complications will all go full Deion and encourage mass player exodus with a coaching change. I also think a school will hire a lower level coach who brings in their young talent with them. 

This will likely lead to a lot of 2 to 3 year expectations and repeat turnover in coaching staffs until they get it right. 

They get out from an onerous contract with a meh at best coach that they likely would've been locked into for at least 7 or so more years before they could reasonably eat the buyout, so in that way it helps.

But their reputation just took another beating, they'll likely crater again this year and will lose any halfway decent players they have (if any) and likely wont have much of a recruiting class next year. Is there any chance they convince a halfway decent coach to take this job?

This is not a step up for a lower level P5 HC and likely isn't an ideal place for a G5 HC looking to make the leap. And if you are a top tier OC/DC ready to make the leap would you jump ship for a bottom third Big Ten team coming off two down years and another scandal? Granted in the transfer portal/NIL era, you have a better chance of getting back up quicker but still seems an uphill climb. I would assume they would have to reach for a Matt Rhule (last year) or Sarkisian type (a few years ago) for a reclamation project (how bout a Josh Gattis - only a few years removed from his Broyles award!)

Yeah, but that school is like a mental midget convention. 

I agree--from MSU's perspective the worst part of this scandal is that it perpetuates the idea that they are clueless when it comes to hiring coaches who understand the need to move on from the past and maintain scrupulous boundaries going forward. And that's in addition to winning (or at least being competitive) in the B1G.

Tucker himself is a bad head coach and a complete fool for self-distructing the way that he apparently did. Without the Nassar history and without the basketball player scandals they would be able to get out of Tucker's contract and simply take another swing at finding the 'right' head coach.

But the history exists and the institution still reeks of scandal. They have a cardboard cutout for an AD and a lame (duck) interim president who completely fumbled the disclosure of the Tucker scandal and any associated communication. To my eye the whole place is a rudderless ship in a very stormy sea.

My prediction: the chances that they find a solid head coach who knows what he's doing on and off the field is <20%. The situation is simply too toxic for almost any coach to overcome.

Yeah if a coach is fired, you get to transfer without having to sit out, so could see some transfers midseason, but we'll see.

I think they could lose some of the “big” recruits and transfers quickly - remember at least one of the DL (the former 4/5* transfer from A&M) had already expressed frustration that the MSU DL guru left for the NFL after everyone was locked to MSU for this year - this would eliminate the double transfer penalty iirc.

I think most kids would look at doing the redshirt and sit out thing - you would have to be REALLY talented (like a Keon Coleman type) to transfer mid-year and be able to function in a new system.

MSU had a pre-season win total of 5.5 wins. I don't think a 10-7 halftime score vs CMU and a couple fortuitous bounces from losing at halftime vs. Richmond screamed "better than expected" 

Washington is currently -16 this weekend in EL. With how they've actually looked so far they are going to burn MSU's secondary alive. Once they get into Big Ten play it seems like they are going to completely fall apart .

Uhh CMU beat New Hampshire by a FG.  New Hampshire who played (wait for it) Stonehill in week 1.

Richmond Spiders the FCS giants lost at home week 1 to (wait for it) Morgan State. 

Their schedule is as bad as ours first 2 games - at least we don't have FCS fare. 

They will be 7-5 on their best day and most likely 6-6.  Come check back after Penix inserts himself into EL.

Would have been interesting to see how Mel would've handled Washington's Penix???

/ducks

Do we need MSU getting hold of the schematic advantage?

FWIW. — I think the MSU board of trustees is a bigger hinderance to attracting a quality President than any scandal.

Imagine how this looks to any QUALITY university President who they’re trying to woo. I can’t imagine touching that job given the guarantee that the Board will undermine any attempts to be fair, balanced, open, and equitable.

I watched part of the press conference when they announced the suspension and when the interim president spoke, almost every sentence started with "This MSU". She may have even said "previously, MSU". 

She was obviously trying to make a point about the environment of the school changing. Sadly, it was at a press conference in which they were addressing a failure in the moral integrity of one of the key people in the athletic department which probably doesn't deliver the message the interim president was hoping for.