GLORY

September 5th, 2023 at 10:18 PM ^

And, I will volunteer to be banned from this discussion. 

This article is out of context and dumb, but cannibalizing and suggest banning our own, the Michigan Daily, is even dumber.  Thus, this discussion is dumb. 

Bo Harbaugh

September 6th, 2023 at 9:07 AM ^

This isn't RCMB.  I don't think the site needs to "ban" a publication that writes an op-ed that doesn't fit our collective or majority opinion.

The sites and content that have been banned have generally had a long track record of false, misleading, trolling or "clickbait" content.  

BoFan

September 5th, 2023 at 8:51 PM ^

There isn’t a good reason to ban any news source.  

But the article is a stupid piece of writing that has nothing to do with journalism.  

It’s an opinion piece that wants to take the team’s playful and fun approaches to honor their very much loved coach, and try to turn them into some kind of grand manipulative conspiracy.  

The idea that McCarthy’s Free Harbaugh shirt is anything but a funny way to honor his coach is just stupid. 

swn

September 5th, 2023 at 9:27 PM ^

Literal lol at "excellent piece of journalism." STFU. This is a short, shitty, whiny opinion piece. 

But to players, fans and other supporters, Harbaugh is revered for his willingness to stand up to the big, bad NCAA. That’s all reinforced by the posturing of Harbaugh’s supporters.

Pokes fun of the idea that the NCAA sucks and of course no mention of Harbaugh using presser time to advocate for revenue sharing. You know actual important stuff. 

Indy Pete - Go Blue

September 5th, 2023 at 9:54 PM ^

Swn, Your last paragraph does not correlate with the article.  The writer actually does specifically address and affirm Harbaugh advocating for revenue sharing.  You need to read carefully before such a hot and uninformed response. 
 

BoFan, I enjoyed the humor of ‘free harbaugh’. It is a solid point that the article misconstrues the humor of the shirt as a serious stand for injustice - I acknowledge that. 

Blue in Paradise

September 5th, 2023 at 10:15 PM ^

I have read about 15 posts on RCMB that were almost identical to this story - although I will credit him with using better grammar than the Sparties.

I get what this kid was doing here but he is trying too hard. 

Banning newspapers is stupid but this OP did make me think about the fact that the Michigan Daily almost never gets posted on this site - which is interesting.  Anyone have any theories on why?  Quality of posts not good or maybe not timely?

Magnus

September 6th, 2023 at 10:19 AM ^

Meh...it's very clearly an opinion piece. Yes, there are some facts. But also, there are a lot of suppositions about what Michigan, the players, etc. are trying to do.

The most egregious part, in my opinion, was letting the NCAA off the hook for talking about the case and then deriding Harbaugh apologists. If we're talking about facts...the NCAA shouldn't be talking to the media about the case, and Harbaugh is in fact prevented from talking about it.

He lost me before that, but that was the real tipping point that made me dismiss the article's points entirely.

grumbler

September 6th, 2023 at 8:01 PM ^

He is actually quite factual in the article. 

LOL!   Name all of the "facts" in this paragraph, for instance:

It doesn’t really matter, because all these gimmicks are meant to do is paint Harbaugh as a saint, and the NCAA as the devil. They ignore the essential fact that Harbaugh allegedly violated NCAA recruiting regulations — including contacting recruits during a COVID-19 dead period. They also ignore that Harbaugh allegedly lied to investigators about those violations. Harbaugh tried to gain an edge on other programs, and he got caught.

It's a "fact" that these are "gimmicks" and that the author knows precisely what they are intended to do? Or is the fact here that the author just made that shit up?

How is it an "essential fact" that there are vague rumors of allegations against Harbaugh?  Who is making the allegations that the author is treating as "fact?"  A good journalist would never try to use this passive voice bullshit to smear a public figure.

This is shit journalism, only tolerable to read because the author is such an obvious tool that he includes such a pearl-clutching line as "[p]layers are protesting their own school, for god’s sake."  That's a line that should never be written by an Daily writer ever.  The rest of the train wreck that is this opinion piece never quite reaches that journalistic low again, but hardly for lack of trying.

swn

September 5th, 2023 at 10:03 PM ^

Wrong. You're shaming me for not reading the article while literally making shit up. There's one mention of increasing revenues, not revenue sharing, and no mention of Harbaugh supporting revenue sharing.

I’m certainly not biased toward an institution that profits off of arbitrary rules levied against student athletes. I’m not arguing for a system that exploits those athletes for ever-increasing revenues

He then spends the rest of the article defending the NCAA and also ends by saying

So while it might be funny — even vindicating — to see players wear Harbaugh merch or pay tribute to their coach, let’s be real for a second. It’s corny, overplayed and outright wrong. 

It's wrong? Like morally wrong for JJ to wear his number?

This "opinion piece" is click bait trash.

PopeLando

September 5th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^

Every year in high school, some enterprising journalist would draw upon the ancient wisdom that “if engagement is down, a rant against the football program will go far.” 

And thus the cycle continued. I remember the yearly “football is overrated, overfunded, and honestly people shouldn’t watch it anywhere” articles.

Anyway, this is a high school news kind of move from the Daily, and they should be ashamed of themselves.

As the man said, “uh uh, that’s bait”

oriental andrew

September 6th, 2023 at 10:22 AM ^

At the end of the day, it's an op-ed and op-eds are pretty much by their very nature provocative and contrarian and controversial. Op-eds were click bait before there were clicks. It's literally no big deal. 

This isn't journalism in the sense that it is a researched and objective relaying of the facts. Op-eds are literally the conveyance of one person's opinion on a particular topic with which they ostensibly have some semblance of expertise or familiarity. 

Wolverinebaboo

September 5th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^

The author obtusely and probably intentionally avoids acknowledgment of the NCAAs inconsistent, arbitrary, and even corrupt administration of its own rules, which calls to the fact that his entire argument is flawed. Or he’s just rattling the cages to get some notoriety. Whatever. 

GLORY

September 5th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^

Comments are flying around and IndyPete's defending his points.  What's the issue?  Don't see any instigation.  In fact, he's done so pretty respectfully without any redundancy or exertion.  No issues whatsoever.  Your tone, however, suggests otherwise.  Perhaps you should "let it go."

GoBlue-Pittsburgh

September 6th, 2023 at 2:29 AM ^

I'm new so full disclosure I don't necessarily understand the nuances of the rules around here, but exactly. It's my understanding that articles from particular writers have been banned but I did not see any mention that, for example, all Detroit Free Press articles should be banned because of Drew Sharp. And honestly even if I am wrong and it is banned, I still find this entire thread kinda hilarious in a dumb way. We're going to link to the article to make sure we all go and read it, even though it apparently irritated the OP enough that he wonders if the entire publication should be banned from the site? Color me confused.