Dellenger/Wetzel (Yahoo): “ The NCAA’s findings do not connect the in-person scouting and recording of opponents’ sidelines to Harbaugh”

Submitted by Killewis on November 6th, 2023 at 4:40 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-ncaa-revealed-michigan-findings-to-big…

“The NCAA has revealed its findings in the Michigan sign-stealing investigation to the Big Ten, and the conference continues to consider a multi-game suspension of coach Jim Harbaugh as the school gears up for legal action, sources tell Yahoo Sports.

The NCAA’s findings do not connect the in-person scouting and recording of opponents’ sidelines to Harbaugh, sources say, an absence of evidence essential to a potential lawsuit from the school and coach against the league.”

tnixon16

November 6th, 2023 at 5:03 PM ^

Also: 

 

“While under NCAA bylaws head coaches are presumed responsible for a staff member’s actions, the Big Ten sportsmanship policy does not feature such a clause.

The policy holds “institutions,” not head coaches, as “responsible for, and therefore, may be held accountable for, the actions of its employees, coaches, student-athletes, band, spirit squads, mascot(s), general student body and any other individual or group of individuals over whom or which it maintains some level of authority.”

M-Dog

November 6th, 2023 at 5:28 PM ^

This is the rest of that quote:

Can the Big Ten apply a NCAA bylaw to override its own bylaw to suspend Harbaugh? That’s the kind of question — and others that arise from two bureaucratic mazes — that will no doubt be asked of a judge.

The Big Ten actually has no basis to suspend Harbaugh.  There is no head coach-level "Lack of Institutional Control" that can be pinned on a head coach.

The Big Ten has to go after the "institution".  What does that even mean?  Sounds more like a fine (which would be the most Big Ten thing ever, being the money whores they are).

If they just change their rules mid-flight to match the NCAA's, then they are playing right into the Michigan lawyers' hands.

gweb

November 6th, 2023 at 5:09 PM ^

Weird, no mention of this on ESPN. Just that NCAA is investigating sideline thing at CMU and our old friend Tom talking about Rick Flair. 

I mean a normal reputable news outlet would report both sides of the story right? Maybe just haven’t given them enough time to post their update article. 

But if it is never written, it tells you everything you need to know about ESPN. 

UM_Ftown

November 6th, 2023 at 5:12 PM ^

Seems like they’d discipline the people who were using Stallions data, likely the coordinators. They can punish Harbaugh because it all falls under his responsibility though? 

ShoelacesFlapp…

November 6th, 2023 at 5:14 PM ^

Between this and the news of other Big 10 schools colluding against us, suspending Jim this week would show a vendetta against him and against Michigan which would make it difficult to stay in the conference under the current leadership.

4wheeljive

November 6th, 2023 at 5:19 PM ^

"The NCAA’s findings do not connect the in-person scouting and recording of opponents' sidelines to Harbaugh, sources say, an absence of evidence essential to a potential lawsuit from the school and coach against the league."

I had to read this sentence about 10 times before coming up with an interpretation that made any sense.

At first I read it to say that evidence of a connection between Harbaugh and the scouting/recording is essential for a lawsuit by UM/JH against the league, in which case the absence of such evidence would cause such a suit to fail. That, of course, seems ludicrous.

Eventually, I realized the article must be suggesting that it is the "absence of evidence" of such a connection that is essential to a lawsuit by UM/JH against the league. In other words, the article appears to be saying that UM/JH would have to establish that Harbaugh had no connection to the scouting/recording in order to maintain any suit against the league.

But I don't think that would be the case at all. Even if there was concrete evidence that Harbaugh knew what was going on, I believe there would still be grounds for him and the school to seek a court injunction against any suspension, arguing, for example, that the league lacked the authority to impose such a punishment under the circumstances, that proper procedures were not followed, etc.

BlueGoM

November 6th, 2023 at 6:00 PM ^

sorry but the 2nd paragraph reads like it is a negative thing, 'potential lawsuit from the school' -  or am I not reading it correctly?  I haven't  slept well lately ...

 

UMfan21

November 6th, 2023 at 6:26 PM ^

So if I read this correctly, basically the NCAA is telling the Big Ten "you might want to chill a bit....there isn't sufficient evidence"

Blue1995nyc

November 6th, 2023 at 7:02 PM ^

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UofM Die Hard …

November 6th, 2023 at 7:05 PM ^

Sign the contract on air JMFH, and let them know what they just opened....the wrong GD door

Shit....I could see this really amp the program up, I could see a lot of coaches staying next year, more players staying one more year, just to royally FUCK all these shit schools


No mercy Jim...NONE

Perkis-Size Me

November 6th, 2023 at 8:11 PM ^

Why am I still expecting the Big Ten to try laying down the hammer on Harbaugh just because it’s other coaches have their feelings hurt over getting their asses kicked?

bluesparkhitsy…

November 6th, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^

It seems possible that this leak is the NCAA’s way of suggesting that the B1G cool its jets. Recall that the NCAA reportedly told Michigan early on that they did not think this was a serious issue.