Column on structural issues ailing Michigan basketball

Submitted by PeteM on February 17th, 2024 at 3:02 PM

This column's conclusion overlaps a bit with Alex's diagnosis at the end of his tour-de-force piece on the decline of men's basketball, but I thought the line that this wouldn't be a competitive team with Mike Krzyzewski "behind the bench" was interesting. Basically, he points out that with the transfer portal, lack of NIL support and Michigan's hostility to transfers (my understanding is that Love and Shannon were both admitted, but simply couldn't get enough credits honored) Michigan has significant structural issues impeding its ability to be competitive. I'm not suggesting that these issues justify this team's historic failures, but just that a run like we enjoyed through much of the last 10-12 years won't be easy to recreate.

https://www.michigandaily.com/sports/sportsmonday-michigan-needs-more-than-a-coaching-change-to-be-competitive/

Team 101

February 17th, 2024 at 4:01 PM ^

When you're in sole possession of 14th place in a conference that hasn't been this weak in years, something is wrong.  Changing a coaching staff is usually easier to implement than other options.  I agree that this team is reminiscent of late Amaker era teams.

NotAMichiganSpy

February 17th, 2024 at 4:10 PM ^

Howards recruiting is awful. The big names he gets leave after 1 year to go ride pine in the NBA. Diabate and Jett are doing nothing in the NBA. Houstan is barely making it. I'm probably missing someone, but I think his only truly good job recruiting was Dug and Hunter. And Hunter was primarily recruited by Beileins staff like Washington and Eisley. Franz doesn't count as that's a Beilein guy.

Michigan sucks for transfers, but at the same time it's Howard's job to go after transfers we can actually get.

Howard is failing in literally every aspect of his job. Michigan could and should get NIL/transfer issues worked out, but with Howard at the helm it won't matter.

willirwin1778

February 17th, 2024 at 4:22 PM ^

Regarding, "The big names he gets leave after 1 year to go ride pine in the NBA." 

I agree, just one addition, the big names he has gotten aren't even good enough to play winning ball in the BIG.

So, in my opinion, player scouting/recruiting/identification/program fit has been far and away the biggest problem.

Since getting those recruits to the aftermath, everything has been total program erosion as a result.  And the NBA still drafted them?  Just a total opposite day situation.  How on Earth can you field a team working under that paradigm? 

Start recruiting the right program players and slowly turn the ship around.    

blueheron

February 17th, 2024 at 4:23 PM ^

I'm OK with moving on from Howard, but I think you reached a couple of times.

Hunter was primarily recruited by Beileins staff like Washington and Eisley.

Eisley wasn't on Beilein's staff! Also, you're suggesting that the assistants are the primary drivers of recruiting decisions.

Franz doesn't count as that's a Beilein guy.

Juwan was his coach for the whole time. He would've been on the map as a recruit (to Juwan or anyone) because of his brother's term here.

Solecismic

February 17th, 2024 at 5:01 PM ^

It seems his ideal recruit is someone who might get drafted in the NBA, might not. Which means they have potential, but have to get some polish - at the college's expense.

Those players (if I'm not straw-manning Howard here) are not good college recruits. They don't stay in college long enough to contribute and end up (as was the case with his son and his notoriously bad approach to defense) hurting the team in the long run.

I don't think Howard has the experience necessary to take a different approach if things aren't working out. I don't like that I'm hoping for a change, but I think it's necessary, because here we are, just three hours before the tip-off for a game at Crisler against Michigan's biggest rival, and there's no front-page preview or story or even what passes for a pre-game thread. No one cares. And it's not even a Peacock game.

UofM Die Hard …

February 17th, 2024 at 4:16 PM ^

Again, there are plenty of strong academic programs out there that have the same NIL and admissions huddles as M does. Yet a lot of those programs look like real basketball teams because they have coaches who know what they are doing. 
 

Howard is a bad college coach  

 

dbockle

February 17th, 2024 at 4:32 PM ^

It seems beyond debate that there are structural problems that hamper the current staff’s performance … but I also think it is clear that they shouldn’t be hampering it THIS much. We still have a vastly more talented roster than McNeese State or Long Beach State (both of whom beat us this year), as well as many other schools who will make the tournament. The same was true last year. The structural problems are there, no doubt. But the bulk of this unbelievable clusterfuck is due to poor coaching. The roster is poorly constructed and the players are apathetic. Howard is openly blaming the players (as if he didn’t recruit and train them), and he generally seems to be flailing. The program appears to be in a tailspin and many, many coaches could do much, much better.

DennisFranklinDaMan

February 17th, 2024 at 4:35 PM ^

Michigan fans, in both basketball and football, are always convinced that we're at some massive disadvantage against other teams that makes winning a conference championship essentially impossible ... until we do it, repeatedly, at a rate that I assume is equal to or higher than any other program in the Big Ten. 

Seriously. I always wonder if those complaining about our purported disadvantages hear themselves. We can't win because we don't pay our players (or don't pay them enough), or because our academic standards are too high, or because the admissions staff isn't sufficiently pliable, or for God knows what other reason. This goes back at least 55 years — very few here are old enough to remember, but it was accepted as gospel that Michigan simply couldn't compete with Ohio State in football in 1969 ... until Bo came in and did it.

It's whining. And it's lazy. Most importantly, it's wrong. I'm on the record as a supporter of Juwan, and I hope he turns it around. But he's got enough good players on this team to compete — and the failure to have more is not always someone else's fault.

We have two options. Demand success from our coaches and players, or accept mediocrity and move on. But it's nonsensical to claim that a basketball program with a history of success as profound as ours is unable to put together a winning team.  

S.D. Jones

February 17th, 2024 at 5:08 PM ^

A team infamous for blowing leads needs talent enough to take the lead in the first place. Regardless of the slapdash roster construction and institutional obstacles, there is some talent on this team and it is not being properly fostered. That's all Juwan. He's failing in both Xs and Os and psychology; our bench would make an emo convention look upbeat. 

ST3

February 17th, 2024 at 5:37 PM ^

I joked about this team needing Greg Harden’s help a while ago. (He’s the “peak performance consultant” shown on the sidelines talking to JJ during the CFP.) 

The team finds ways to lose instead of ways to win. How else can we explain the awful record in close games?

I watched the Fab5 documentary today. Webber had all the talent in the world, but when he got the rebound against UNC you could see his mind speed up, leading to the timeout call. If he could have remained calm, he gets the ball to Jalen who orchestrates a play. Instead, he dribbled to the corner, was trapped by a double team and lost his ability to play his game. 
This team does the same thing, in a qualitative sense. Build a lead, have something go wrong, and lose it. Coach Howard does a bit of the Phil Jackson thing - they’re pros, they’ll figure it out. That’s fine and good for the NBA, but these kids aren’t veteran NBA players.

growler4

February 17th, 2024 at 5:24 PM ^

I am tired of the complaints regarding Admissions and undergrad transfers. This is the UNIVERSITY of Michigan. They are allowed to set academic standards for admission and for applicable transfer of credits from other institutions.

The coaches of various sports need to understand the standards and the process. It's not that the Admissions people need to understand the various needs of our athletic teams.

Jonesy

February 17th, 2024 at 7:03 PM ^

Michigan definitely has a lot of barriers to success that aren't coach-related. However this team is far far far worse than the sum of it's parts which is a coaching failure. The roster building has also been atrocious since the start which is at least partially a coaching failure. Up until this year I was fine with sticking with Juwan as his basketball coaching I felt was good he just needed to learn how to run a program and build a roster in the most difficult era for building a roster. But now the actual basketball part sucks too so I see no upside to keeping him around. Let him go back to the NBA and focus on what he's best at.

ST3

February 17th, 2024 at 7:26 PM ^

The author leans heavily on the NIL issue. But to me that’s a canard. We got blown out at home by Rutgers. We got destroyed by Nebraska. How are their NIL programs? I’m guessing we could have matched whatever Cliff Omoruyi or Keisei Tominaga are getting.

 

The Denarding

February 17th, 2024 at 11:13 PM ^

You need Josh Schertz …someone who can win with shooting and perimeter defense and live without high end athleticism.   The issue with the latter is that they don’t stay long enough to get developed.   If you have the admission standards and NIL issues of Michigan - you need to go back to wide shooting splits, minimal turnovers and limiting giving away defensive rebounds.   That’s what you do if you can’t roll the ball out and win….

maquih

February 18th, 2024 at 9:04 AM ^

We had three draft picks on the team last year for a first round NIT exit.

Beilien could have a team of only walkons and never have a season this bad.

Talent/recruiting is absolutely not the problem.

hajiblue

February 18th, 2024 at 2:24 PM ^

I mean, this was always the case. Admissions has for a long time been a thorn to both Football and Basketball recruiting. P4P just magnifies the problem all of which makes Juwan's job that much tougher. Juwan doesn't get a free pass though, he is responsible for the guys he brings in and the failure of those that don't make it. He has to be aware of the limitations and create a recruiting plan that works around that. He's also responsible for the product he puts on the floor which quite frankly, has been very ill prepared in most instances. I don't know what they teach in practice but some of the basic fundamentals don't appear to be it. Without the AD being committed to help turn this around I'm afraid we are going to see a lot more losing before we see a lot more winning. 

huntmich

February 18th, 2024 at 5:12 PM ^

Michigan doesn't want to transition into the new model of unlimited NIL enticements, 24/7 free agency, and school as an afterthought if given a thought at all. And I can't blame the institution for not wanting to be associated with that kind of athletic model.

 

This is a major turning point, where revenue sports become minor league teams branded with college colors. I turn 40 this year and I just don't care anymore. Michigan winning the national championship in football was what I needed to disconnect from college revenue sports. I don't want to be a fan of sports whose model I am unable to defend with a straight face.

maquih

February 20th, 2024 at 8:05 AM ^

So in basketball it's a barrier to success but in football we can win a national championship??  That makes no sense.  Howard is doing a bad job plain and simple.  

Is our athletic model that much more restrictive than Northwesterns?  Are Northwesteren boosters outbidding ours?  How are they in third place with a 9-6 conference record while we're dead last???

basketballjones

February 19th, 2024 at 8:32 AM ^

What I learn from these threads when talking about credits transferring is most of you never transferred before.
 

I transferred twice due to athletics and lost credits each time. I literally transferred back to the school I started at just to get back majority of my credits honored I received my frosh year.