Coastal Carolina EDGE transfer Josaiah Stewart top 3 includes UM

Submitted by Indonacious on December 12th, 2022 at 1:24 PM

Coastal EDGE transfer Josaiah Stewart releases top 3 of UM/LSU/USC. Not sure when he plans to decide. He is from the same high school as sainristil. At coastal, he had a stellar freshman year but had a drop in production this year, likely due to teams double teaming and scheming to minimize his impact. This is a big litmus test in my eyes for potential relaxation of transfer policy given he is a sophomore and NIL as well given USC and LSU have been very aggressive with NIL. 

https://twitter.com/josaiah_stewart/status/1602364963175239680?s=20&t=qOUA_vMRyFo6kYOZaBD1YA
 

Isaac Newton

December 12th, 2022 at 1:29 PM ^

There won't be a relaxation of transfer policy.  The rules, defined by the schools and colleges, are the rules.  And treating an athlete differently is an NCAA violation.

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TrueBlue2003

December 12th, 2022 at 2:10 PM ^

Exactly, the OP is referencing a relaxation of Michigan's own policy of being very strict with transfer credits.

The way I understand it, they'll take transfers but if there isn't an "equivalent" class offered at Michigan for credits a student is trying to transfer, they won't get credits for that class at Michigan.  So other schools golf and basket weaving courses don't transfer and a student with junior status at their current school might only have sophomore status at Michigan and they choose not to take a step backwards towards graduating.

Again, Michigan allows them to transfer, just not with the number of credits they want to bring so most choose to go elsewhere is my understanding.

But if they already have a degree, the transfer credits don't matter towards their bachelors degree.  They're coming in as a graduate student with no grad credits anway.

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steviebrownfor…

December 12th, 2022 at 2:42 PM ^

my understand is that Michigan's transfer credit rules are a bit more sticky than what you're suggesting, for instance, Psych 101 at Coastal Carolina may not count for any credit at U of M.

Its not just the underwater basketweaving classes from other schools that the M admissions department doesn't like, it's damn near everything.

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djmagic

December 12th, 2022 at 4:45 PM ^

from my (admittedly limited) understanding, it has to do with the nature and rigor of the curriculum.  A hypothetical transfer prospect from Vanderbilt, or Northwestern, or ND, or Stanford, etc, would almost assuredly have no trouble getting their credits to transfer to UofM for classes of similar content. 

A kid coming to UM from a school with a 'lesser' academic reputation is often facing the prospect of going backwards regarding their progress towards a degree.

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TheJuiceman

December 12th, 2022 at 10:32 PM ^

I wasn't a football player, but I had a hodgepodge of credits from academic powerhouses like Baker and Moraine Valley CC, and UM accepted them with no problem. My grades were high as shit in those classes, but my GPA just reset here.  In A2, the classes counted as credit only and not towards my GPA.

 

If they did this for lil ole me, I'm sure strings can be pulled for this kid. As long as those classes are prereqs, and his grades are where they need to be, he should be good. He's only a freshman so they're probably all prereqs/100 or maybe 200 level courses. Badabing badaboom. 

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mmjoy

December 13th, 2022 at 11:09 AM ^

As someone very familiar with UofM's "Transfer Credit Equivalency" course catalog, I checked, and Coastal Carolina has plenty of classes that are transferrable, notably Psych 101 as well as numerous other 100-level classes (Soc, Polisci, History). 

The list isn't as long as other, more common schools, but I know for a fact that classes can be added very easily to the transfer catalog. I had to take eight classes at an online university (Southern New Hampshire U) and all but one or two of them were listed in the catalog. All I had to do was email an advisor with the list of classes and their course description/syllabus, and it took a day or two for them to add the courses to the catalog and list them as transferable credits. As long as they weren't anything ridiculous like "Intro to Bowling," or they also frown upon taking math classes online, UofM doesn't ask many (or any) questions.

I'm just some guy that took a ten-year long hiatus from UofM and graduated last spring (thanks to the online classes), so I'm sure they can help some of these kids out fairly easily.

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Isaac Newton

December 12th, 2022 at 2:13 PM ^

I'll admit to use of poor phrasing "treating an athlete differently."  The NCAA bylaw:

16.01.2 Eligibility Effect of Violation. [A] A student-athlete shall not receive any extra benefit. Receipt by a student athlete of an award, benefit or expense allowance not authorized by NCAA legislation renders the student-athlete ineligible for athletics competition in the sport for which the improper award, benefit or expense was received. If the student-athlete receives an extra benefit not authorized by NCAA legislation, the individual is ineligible in all sports. 16.01.2.1

Many "award(s), benefit(s) or expense allowance(s) are "authorized by NCAA legislation."  The benefit of a relaxed academic policy, e.g. transfer credit evaluation, is not one of them.

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ak47

December 12th, 2022 at 1:44 PM ^

Its not a litmus test at all. The school has never been the problem. There's a sophomore transfer from oregon state currently playing on our womens basketball team. There is a very small number of non graduate transfers good enough for Michigan to be worth taking every year and just like in standard recruiting we tend to lose those guys to Alabama's of the world. Its not because the school doesn't accept transfers or because guys who think are going to the NFL care about having to take an extra semesters worth of free classes to get a degree.

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Indonacious

December 12th, 2022 at 1:51 PM ^

I’m not sure I agree with “There is a very small number of non graduate transfers good enough for Michigan to be worth taking every year”, particularly in the current climate. CB, LB/Edge, OL, RB, TE are all theoretically spots where Michigan would benefit from taking players who are in the current portal.

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ak47

December 12th, 2022 at 3:58 PM ^

There are guys we want, I'm just saying its not a large number. Like look at Campbell, one of his finalists is USC. When kids are coming out of high school and we are recruiting directly against USC we generally lose. If we lose this one its not going to be because Campbell is worried about losing a few credits from his freshman year, its going to be because Lincoln Riley is a very good recruiter and USC is a desirable place to go.

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mwolverine1

December 12th, 2022 at 3:39 PM ^

Kampschroeder transferred after her freshman year at Oregon St. There is no issue with transferring at that point in your career. 

Strategically, Michigan has not pursued this type of transfer in football recently, but we have been interested in sophomores and juniors and been unable to get them in (Terrance Shannon, Lance Dixon, Nojel Eastern, etc.)

 

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Blue Middle

December 12th, 2022 at 1:57 PM ^

Hmmm...one of these is not like the others.  Michigan has been to the last two CFBs and has only one regular season loss.  Oh, and we just had a #2 overall draft pick at DE and an injured DE this year make 2nd-team AA.

In summary, come to Michigan if you want to:

  • Win
  • Get drafted
  • Be the best at your position

But I guess SC and LSU are okay schools, too.

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Brhino

December 12th, 2022 at 4:25 PM ^

I didn't know that transferees were releasing "top" lists of their potential targets now, just like high school recruits.  Seems like mostly they just announce the new place.  I may be old and out of touch, but I can't bring myself to care to much about someone who is MAYBE transferring to Michigan.  

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Indonacious

December 12th, 2022 at 6:34 PM ^

Given this kid never was in the limelight out of High school going to coastal Carolina, I have no problem with him getting the decision excitement now with powerhouse programs like USC, LSU, and UM recruiting him Now. He deserves it, in my opinion. 

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