Brandon Naurato vs OSU Frozen Fours

Submitted by bluewave720 on April 3rd, 2024 at 3:29 PM

I looked up the history of the Frozen Four, including all-time numbers for every team that has went.

As many of you know, Michigan leads all-time with 28 appearances and tied (currently) for national titles at 9.  

OSU has been to 2 FFs in the history of their program.  So, Brandon Naurato has coached Michigan to as many FFs in one ~1 calendar year as OSU has since 1963.  Naurato also has a FF as a player.  

Tl;dr - Naurato 3, OSU 2

Billy Ray Valentine

April 3rd, 2024 at 3:51 PM ^

A "little brotherish" tidbit would have included a reference to either Walmart or the super-duper-mean TUNNEL. Instead, this post seems more akin to getting #PumpItUpped over Michigan jerseys selling like hotcakes.

Either way, screw them. They're entitled, whiny, Just For Men customers that prefer coolers for pooping.  

stephenrjking

April 3rd, 2024 at 3:55 PM ^

Big brotherish, honestly. It’s punching down; OSU isn’t totally irrelevant in hockey, but Michigan is one of the top two programs in college hockey history and OSU just fields an ok program that occasionally has good seasons. Michigan coaches had *better* make more Frozen Fours than their program.

This would be like OSU taunting Bowling Green’s football program. Of course they’re better. 

ShadowStorm33

April 3rd, 2024 at 4:09 PM ^

This would be like OSU taunting Bowling Green’s football program. Of course they’re better. 

The hilarious thing about your example is that even BG has a better hockey program than OSU. In fewer seasons, BG has more wins, a higher winning percentage, way more regular season and tournament championships (up until the formation of the B1G hockey conference a decade ago, in the same conference (CCHA) as OSU), the same number of NCAA tournament appearances, the same number of Frozen Fours, and a national championship (OSU lost both of their Frozen Four semis).

Harball sized HAIL

April 3rd, 2024 at 3:54 PM ^

Besides all the other stupid shit the NCAA pulls, like playing the hockey regionals in a high school gym when you coulda probably drawn capacity crowds at Midwest NHL arenas - waiting 2 weeks to play the semifinal and final is particularly fuckin dumb.

JonnyHintz

April 3rd, 2024 at 4:04 PM ^

when you coulda probably drawn capacity crowds at Midwest NHL arenas
 

Yeah that’s just not true. Regional sites are typically 1/3 full (at best) at AHL/ECHL arenas. There’s no chance you’re getting capacity crowds at NHL arenas.
 

On the off chance you get situations like this year where UM/MSU are meeting in a regional final, sure the attendance would have been great at somewhere like LCA or Van Andel. But you also can’t predict that is going to happen when regional bids are granted to these arenas. What would attendance have looked like at LCA with a WMU-North Dakota matchup? 
 

It is precisely BECAUSE attendance is so horrible that nobody bids to host regionals in the West/Midwest. The NCAA has a minimum capacity requirement of 5,000 and we just had a regional in a 2,500 capacity arena because nobody else would bid. 

crg

April 3rd, 2024 at 4:10 PM ^

There’s no chance you’re getting capacity crowds at NHL arenas.

That really depends on *who* is playing and *where*.  Yes, most ncaa regionals have poor turnout... but much of that is from the ncaa organizing it in almost the worst way possible.  If done properly (with an eye of maximizing turnout - including with how tickets are packaged/sold), they could easily sellout out some nhl venues in most years.

stephenrjking

April 3rd, 2024 at 5:16 PM ^

Sort of, sort of not. The NCAA has made a mess of things, and that directly contributes to sustained bad regionals.

I’ve been banging the drum on this long enough: years ago, before the B1G formed for hockey, the WCHA sold out the X for the Final Five regularly. One year they had a regional at the X the week after. Minnesota and North Dakota, the two biggest WCHA draws, both played in the regional.

And the arena was only half full for the regional, despite the games being substantially more important. Because the NCAA has trained its fans that regionals aren’t worthwhile. 

JonnyHintz

April 3rd, 2024 at 6:00 PM ^

But again, the *who* and *where* isn’t something you can predict when the sites are chosen for the regionals. MSU wasn’t even supposed to MAKE the tournament this year, let alone earn a 1-seed. They don’t just Willy-nilly assign teams to regionals either. Seeding is earned by play on the ice. Michigan was a 3 seed because of math, not because they just decided to do it. 
 

They’ll try to put the 1 seeds at the best geographical region and they avoid inter-conference matchups in the first round. If the “host” makes the tournament, they go to their home regional. That’s it.

crg

April 3rd, 2024 at 7:11 PM ^

But again, the *who* and *where* isn’t something you can predict when the sites are chosen for the regionals.

Again - this is on the ncaa.  If they organized it primarily with an eye to making it an attractive event, rather than a "fair" event (think CFP), many of those problems go away (including the backward process of selecting regional locations).  Put all regionals in popular destinations (Chicago, NYC, Boston, etc.) and people will come.

JonnyHintz

April 3rd, 2024 at 6:02 PM ^

The smaller schools/conferences keep voting against it. Can’t blame them honestly…

 

you think RIT wants a road game at Ralph Engelstad Arena with 12,000 screaming North Dakota fans or a 1/3 full ECHL arena? They’re never going to host, so their best bet for an upset is a boring neutral site game in the middle of nowhere.

Blue Vet

April 3rd, 2024 at 4:49 PM ^

If the numbers were reversed, it would be a small sample size and meaningless.

But as they are, the numbers are profoundly meaningful!