Big Slate in the B1G Week 9

Submitted by BuckeyeChuck on October 27th, 2021 at 2:40 PM

There are a few really BIG games in the B1G this week! First, let’s look at the rankings according to the Fancy Stats (F+):

WEST DIVISION

#8 Wisconsin (FEI #19; SP+ #6)

#16 Iowa (FEI #10; SP+ #19)

#24 Nebraska (FEI #27; SP+ #20)

#30 Minnesota (FEI #36; SP+ #23)

#38 Purdue (FEI #35; SP+ #40)

#82 Illinois (FEI #72; SP+ #87)

#83 Northwestern (FEI #86; SP+ #79)

EAST DIVISION

#2 Ohio State (FEI #3; SP+ #1)

#4 Michigan (FEI #4; SP+ #7)

#11 Penn State (FEI #15; SP+ #10)

#22 Michigan State (FEI #26; SP+ #21)

#65 Maryland (FEI #90; SP+ #33)

#67 Indiana (FEI #74; SP+ #56)

#72 Rutgers (FEI #77; SP+ #65)

It's amazing that the turtle is even volatile among computer models. How does any team rank so far apart to be considered the #90 team in one model and #33 in another?!? What an enigma.

We’ll start in the undercard division with what is virtually a de-facto West Division championship game. (Looks like it’s come down to the Triumvirate of Hate, with Minnesota a notch down from the other two.)

IOWA (3-1) @ WISCONSIN (2-2)

People wrote off Wisconsin too early. Sure, Mertz has done plenty to cause the offense to self-destruct repeatedly, but the defense remains legit and this game may be the only thing preventing Wisconsin from finishing the regular season with an 8-game winning streak.

It’s interesting that the Fancy Stats disagree. SP+ still has Wisconsin at #6(!) but FEI prefers Iowa (#10 vs. #19).

Iowa F+ #16 (#10 FEI; #19 SP+)

F+ Offense: #78

F+ Defense #3

Wisconsin F+ #8 (#19 FEI; #6 SP+)

F+ Offense: #72

F+ Defense #2

 

SP+ predicted score: ~24-15 Wisconsin

Vegas predicted score: ~20-17 Wisconsin

Where the Fancy Stats agree is that the #2 & #3 defenses according to F+ going up against the #78 & #72 offenses. YIKES! Is the o/u on punts in this game 14.5? Neither team is likely to drive 70+ yards multiple times for scores, but the defenses may set up the offenses for a few 30-40 yard drives for a score, which could be the difference in the game.

Only Minniesoda can do much about declaring the winner of this game the West Division champion, but I expect the Gophers to lose a couple down the stretch. Now let’s get to the real division.

MICHIGAN (4-0) @ MICHIGAN STATE (4-0)

Did we ever expect before the season started that this game would determine the B1G’s last remaining undefeated team? I suppose that kinda makes this like the Squid Game finale among B1G teams.

Michigan F+ #4 (#4 FEI; #7 SP+)

F+ Offense: #10

F+ Defense: #10

Michigan State F+ #22 (#26 FEI; #21 SP+)

F+ Offense: #51

F+ Defense: #14

 

SP+ predicted score: ~27-23 Michigan

Vegas predicted score: ~28-23 Michigan

The Fancy Stats certainly prefer Michigan. They have Sparty as barely a Top 25 team (more a peer of Nebraska [F+ #24] than Michigan). Their offense is mediocre at best (51st) and their strength, the defense, is still inferior to Michigan’s (14th vs 10th). I definitely expect Michigan to come away with the victory, but hey...you never know which way the winds of Sparty are swirling.

PENN STATE (2-2) @ OHIO STATE (4-0)

Man, in other contexts I would have enjoyed watching Illinois knock off PSU. But not this week; the week before they play OSU. Would’ve loved to have PSU come to Columbus looking good and ranked in single digits. Darn it! That would have made a spectacular day of B1G football, feeling like a pair of East Division semi-finals and a West Division championship…all on the same day in October! Instead…PSU is apparently playing Illinois in the Big House on Saturday.

Penn State F+ #11 (#15 FEI; #10 SP+)

F+ Offense: #48

F+ Defense: #6

Ohio State F+ #2 (#3 FEI; #1 SP+)

F+ Offense: #1

F+ Defense: #25

 

SP+ predicted score: ~35-21 Ohio State

Vegas predicted score: ~39-21 Ohio State

When OSU has the ball, it’s strength vs. strength (#1 offense vs. #6 defense), and when PSU has the ball it’s relative weakness vs. relative weakness (#48 offense vs. #25 defense [PSU was the #28 offense before the Illinois game and dropped 20 spots…which is a significant drop in computer rankings!]). With Clifford ailing and Mustipher out, PSU has become underwhelming. This could get ugly.

…but still not be as ugly as will be the all-scarlet color rush. (blech!) At least the helmets won’t also be scarlet.

 

 

mistersuits

October 27th, 2021 at 2:50 PM ^

MSU has covered something like 10 of the last 12 years. It's in East Lansing. They're coming off a bye week with nothing but hatred and time to prepare for their super bowl. Even their shit teams always play Michigan tough and this year is not a shit team. Michigan will be lucky to escape this weekend with a W even if the fancy stats say they "should" on paper.

Big Boutros

October 27th, 2021 at 2:52 PM ^

MSU is going to roast our corners over and over. They have not two but three incredible WRs -- Nailor, Reed, and Mosley. We can't and won't keep up with all of them. Big chunk plays through the air will force our safeties back, giving KWIII another game for the Heisman resume as he piles up big yards on the ground in the second half.

MSU 38-10

Golden section

October 27th, 2021 at 6:34 PM ^

Back away from the ledge. This isn't your 2020 secondary.

Nebraska held them to 12 yards and 0 1st downs in the second half.

This vaunted offense scored 13 point against Nebraska and Indiana.  They held KWIII to 61 yards and 84 respectively. If they can hold him in check so can we.

Also against Wisconsin and (I believe)  Northwestern we pressured the QB on every single passing attempt.  Thorne is good when given time but we won't get it against us. They are 110th in sacks on obvious passing downs.  

Statistically we are pretty even on a yards per play

  • offense MSU 6.5 to UM  6.3
  • defense MSU 4.8 to UM  4.6

But we are a ball control offense and average 15 more offensive plays per gave. All things being equal that is 75 more yards then them.  We had 90 plays against Northwestern against 55. 

Their only hope is big plays and we don't give many up.  Saturday's miscue was the only play above 50 yards we've given up all year.

Feel better?

s1105615

October 27th, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^

Remind yourself how MSU has found ways to win this type of game this season and over the last 10 or so years.  Remind yourself that UM routinely finds ways to lose this type of game over the last 15 or so years.  Remind yourself that there are now 2 horrible ref crews in the B1G (Whatever that crew was from the UM/Nebraska game was also the crew for Ill/PSU, and of course John O’Neill).  Remind yourself that all the media pressure is on UM and Harbaugh while none is on Tucker or MSU.  Remind yourself that UM corners have yet to be tested and people are arguing about whether or not McNamara deserves a cyan, and it’s not a debate that can be laughed off as ridiculous.

Feel worse yet?

CraigB

October 27th, 2021 at 2:57 PM ^

I'll give it a go...

Kenneth Walker is a very good RB who has been bottled up against the two defenses MSU has faced with a pulse...shit wait.

Sparty is 0-2 at home against Harbaugh...wait, no, I'll get it.

They have the 11th worst pass defense in the nation...this isn't going well.

Panasiuk is still a dirty player and deserves to lose...true.

Ok, here's one. Their WRs are pretty good to very good and could give Michigan's CBs fit, especially if Don Brown is the DC.

There ya go.

rob f

October 27th, 2021 at 5:27 PM ^

I just minutes ago saw something interesting regarding staee's backup QB:

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/10/michigan-state-qb-anthony-russo-takes-plea-deal-after-owi-charge.html

It'll be interesting to see how Tucker will handle the discipline over this, as 2nd string QB Russo and his lawyer plea-bargained down to a guilty plea of reckless driving, after pleading not guilty to the OWI (even though he had a blood alcohol reading nearly twice the legal limit).

​​​​​​"Russo’s attorney Brian Jeffries and a Michigan State team spokesman didn’t immediately respond to messages seeking coming from MLive on Wednesday afternoon. Russo’s status with the program remains unclear."

BTW, their apparent 3rd string QB hasn't taken a snap all season.

oriental andrew

October 27th, 2021 at 3:33 PM ^

Taking it one step further, Michigan has never lost to the buckeyes when the Braves have made the World Series:

  • 1991: 31-1 Michigan
  • 1992: 13-13 tie
  • 1995: 31-23 Michigan
  • 1996: 13-9 Michigan
  • 1999: 24-17 Michigan
  • 2021: ????

Granted, John Cooper was the coach of all those osu teams, but I'm liking the trend! 

michengin87

October 27th, 2021 at 3:34 PM ^

OSU has yet to play against a top defense, and Janklin said that Sean Clifford will be 100% healthy by game time.  So, I think it's highly unlikely that it's close, but I'll be interested to see what happens Saturday night.  That is, as long as we win.  Otherwise, I'll just turn off the TV and work on the lawn.

1VaBlue1

October 27th, 2021 at 3:24 PM ^

Upvoted for "Triumvirate of Hate"!

It will be a fun weekend, but I can't see PSU hanging tough after the first quarter.  Unless they were sandbagging against Illinois, that defense has totally imploded.  I do expect both the units to be slightly improved from Illinois because, jeez, they can't be that bad again, can they?

They can.  Frames is still trying to beat Illinois and thinks they're coming to Ann Arbor.  Imagine his surprise when he steps off the bus into a Cesspool!  His team will follow his lead - totally unprepared and thinking about other things.

Sure do hope that Frames new agent has a lead on something other than LSU.  That finish coming the Nittany Lions' way looks ugly...

Newton Gimmick

October 27th, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^

Assuming Penn State loses Saturday, Franklin will be:

8-10 in his last 18 Big Ten games

17-17 on the road while at Penn St

Right now, Harbaugh is:

12-6 in his last 18 Big Ten games

19-10 on the road while at Michigan

Harbaugh obviously hasn't lit the world on fire, but it's been mostly hot-seat talk for him the last few years while Franklin is mentioned for every top tier job.  The dual narratives are pretty baffling. Do they really hinge on that one block FG five years ago?

evenyoubrutus

October 27th, 2021 at 5:00 PM ^

Sparty has played some really crappy teams this year. The only ones with a pulse on offense put up some big numbers on their defense. See W Kentucky and their almost 500 yard passing. And the only teams with a pulse on defense stonewalled them.

Of course it's a rivalry and it's in E Lansing and anything can happen but this one should not be a difficult win.

Newton Gimmick

October 27th, 2021 at 6:58 PM ^

I think the variance in Maryland has to do with whether a formula emphasizes points per drive vs yards per play.  Since Maryland has an explosive offense and ok-ish defense, efficiency ratings still like them.  However, their turnovers have led to a lot of oppositional points.  I know that SP+ ratings tend to treat turnovers as somewhat random or at least non-predictive, which is why Maryland is higher and Iowa is lower.

Minnesota losing to Bowling Green - a MAC team with no other FBS wins - then winning the West would be very on-brand for the West.  See also: Northwestern losing to Akron