Apparently Simpson was driving Warde's car that he crashed drawing the suspension
We all have to admit if this happened at Online State we would be demanding the FBI check into it.
https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2020/02/zavier-simpson-was-suspended-after-wrecking-michigan-ad-warde-manuels-family-car-police-report-shows.html
February 6th, 2020 at 6:26 PM ^
NCAA: SO, your athletic director loaned his car to a player.
UM: yes, that's a major violation. We'll take a huge scholarship reduction and 5 year postseason ban.
NCAA: well we were thinking of not punishing you and that EMU could just take the bla-
UM: we are morally superior. Death penalty, and no scholarships for 10 years.
NCAA: no seriously you don't even need to be punished just-
UM: it's already done. Have a nice day.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:31 PM ^
”In fact, we’re gonna take down the 2018 Big Ten East Co-Champion banner. It’s already done.”
February 9th, 2020 at 12:51 PM ^
There is actually a banner for this? Oy.
February 6th, 2020 at 8:51 PM ^
That's exactly what happened last time.
February 6th, 2020 at 11:25 PM ^
February 6th, 2020 at 11:36 PM ^
UM is filled with liars. Stop deluding yourself
February 7th, 2020 at 10:58 AM ^
Basketball was in the title game twice in the last decade...hard to argue we should've been cheating instead of doing it Beilein's way
February 7th, 2020 at 1:29 PM ^
Give him some slack. There was not one time while I was at Michigan that I was sober on a Saturday (or Friday night for that matter) night...
February 6th, 2020 at 6:29 PM ^
What a fucking idiot. Driving and crashing Warde Manuel's car at 3am and then lying to the police. While the article says the officers didn't think he was drunk, I saw him and the whole team at Skeeps that night (after a loss may I add). He was 100% intoxicated. Honestly think Juwan's punishment was weak
EDIT: Go ahead and downvote me. You guys all claim you'll have some sort of moral backbone and logic if shit like this ever happened to Michigan, then when it actually does, you just make excuses like MSU and OSU fans. Be better. A 1 game punishment for what he did is a bad look
February 6th, 2020 at 6:31 PM ^
Car is Warde’s but it was one his son drove. My car was still in my parents’ name until my mid 20s, even though I made the payments and drove it 99% of the time. I wasn’t stupid enough to let my friends borrow it at 3am though
February 6th, 2020 at 6:35 PM ^
I understand it was his son's, but I'm guessing it was almost 100% registered to his parents
February 6th, 2020 at 6:41 PM ^
I don’t think that matters all that much. I’m assuming Simpson called Warde’s kid, who he has a personal relationship on some level, and asked if could borrow the car. That doesn’t tell me anything about Warde, other than that he is not able to get his kid to understand that he shouldn’t let people borrow his car at that hour, but it’s not shady or anything to me.
Much more concerned that the cops didn’t breathalyze him or anything like that and that Simpson, as the senior leader, did not have the realization that lying about who he was is worse than just telling the truth initially
February 7th, 2020 at 2:35 PM ^
The fact that you don't see a giant red flag with the fact that one of the best student-athletes in a major program, such as NCAA basketball at a major DIV 1 school, driving around in one of the university's most powerful man's car, at 3 o'clock at night, is honestly disturbing.
Even if he hadn't hit a pole, that fact alone is enough for me to have a ton of questions, and see a lot of red flags waving.
If this was MSU, OSU, pretty much anywhere but here, I'd hope that you'd see the giant red flag here, and see that there's obviously something more to it. But since it's at Michigan, the excuses start rolling in. It's honestly sickening, truly..... sigh. ...Hypocrites and their double standards. We need to hold ourselves and UM's athlete's accountable as well if we want this whole thing to work....
February 7th, 2020 at 5:14 PM ^
This seems like common sense to me. I’m never one of the moral high ground guys, but seeing the same people who talk shit about the morality of anybody on our schedule try to play mental gymnastics with the case is funny. “But it was really the AD son’s car!!!”, lol come on man. Most wouldn’t even try to rationalize the headline after seeing a player was driving the AD’s car at a rival school.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:36 PM ^
I’m 32 and my cars in my mom name. But I pay the note and insurance(was cheaper in her name)
February 6th, 2020 at 6:44 PM ^
Do you also live in her basement?
February 6th, 2020 at 6:59 PM ^
Pretty sure he lives in Izzo's basement.
February 6th, 2020 at 7:15 PM ^
Actually I don’t. I own my house and my moms(formerly my grandmothers) she owns all the cars.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:50 PM ^
/s, right?
February 6th, 2020 at 8:47 PM ^
? That sounds a little bit like fraud...
February 7th, 2020 at 1:51 AM ^
WD's burner account
February 7th, 2020 at 6:13 AM ^
As someone who works in the auto insurance industry, I hope you don't live in Michigan. If you get into an accident and are injured, the injury will not be covered. All persons are required to carry auto insurance as named insureds on the vehicles they own in their household. If your going to take that chance, be extra cautious out there.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:40 PM ^
That's not true. As long as the owner of this vehicle is insuring it, in this case his parents, and he is on their auto insurance policy (or has his own policy elsewhere - but that's irrelavent in this case) as a driver, he is absolutely 100% covered.
- Source - P&C Insurance Agent in MI.
February 7th, 2020 at 3:04 PM ^
Agreed if this is his parents owning the car and he and they are on the policy, however, he seems to be indicating that his mother is not on the policy and he is insuring it. If he's not in the household and in MI, he would be SOL for PIP per Barnes v. Farmers Insurance. Unless I'm misinterpreting what he is saying....which is always possible on a Friday.
February 7th, 2020 at 3:11 PM ^
He said he pays the car note and insurance, but not that they were in his name. I'm assuming what he meant is (could be dead wrong) that the car and insurance is under her name, but he does indeed pay it, its just cheaper in her name/ on her policy with him. But obviously the most important thing here is - who's name is the car in? and Who's the named insurer on the insurance policy that is covering said vehicle. I'm assuming OP knows this, or at least was steered in the right direction, but you never know.
However, as an insurance agent for Allstate for a couple years now, I can confirm that people are indeed very dumb. So who really knows, haha.
February 7th, 2020 at 2:37 PM ^
thanks for sharing
February 7th, 2020 at 2:25 PM ^
annnnnddd the out-of-this-world excuses start pouring in. What a treasure we received on the very first excuse of this thread! Trying to justify something that really doesn't even matter, we all know how this all works.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:35 PM ^
Shut up. Nobody cares.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:35 PM ^
You are wrong. I was at Skeeps that night and didn't see anybody from the team.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:36 PM ^
You must be blind then
February 6th, 2020 at 6:44 PM ^
No, you must be blind.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:51 PM ^
I saw 4 basketball players there that night including Simpson, but if you want to pretend they weren't there then go for it
February 6th, 2020 at 6:56 PM ^
In all fairness, you stated you saw the whole team there then dropped that down to 4 team members. I bet you negotiate like Mother Fucker Jones.
February 7th, 2020 at 5:36 AM ^
Logged in to upvote outstanding Horrible Bosses drop.
Also want to say that it would be a much better approach to explain the full circumstances publicly and then just state that the one game suspension was sufficient. If he was driving his friend’s car and the police chose not to do a sobriety test that is their prerogative, the AD doesn’t have to speak for the PD about that.
All of this secretive business seems to reflect consciousness of guilt on some level about something involved in the matter and it makes me uncomfortable. There is a distinct “Mateen Cleeves in car accident on 94” feel to this story that is a little off-putting to me. At the risk of drawing some ire, I am of the opinion that based on my cumulative observation of Simpson’s disposition this season that his graduation is going to be well timed. It is time for all parties to “take the next step in their endeavors.”
February 7th, 2020 at 8:43 AM ^
Simpson will retire at the end of the season to spend more time with his family.
February 7th, 2020 at 9:18 AM ^
Also want to say that it would be a much better approach to explain the full circumstances publicly and then just state that the one game suspension was sufficient.
It does have a feeling that contrary to Canham's advice we are making a 1 day story a 2 day story.
February 7th, 2020 at 11:03 AM ^
I think it is definitely going to have a Day 3 too. It is the lead story on ESPN college basketball right now.
February 6th, 2020 at 6:59 PM ^
First it was the whole team and now it was 4 players.
I am not pretending, they where not at Skeeps.
February 6th, 2020 at 7:07 PM ^
Are you the same guy who insisted that Kobe's death was a bigger deal than Roberto Clemente's because you never heard about Clemente's death (which happened in 1972) on social media? Maybe avoid calling people out as idiots for a little while.
February 7th, 2020 at 3:01 PM ^
That's not what I said. I said Kobe's death is a bigger deal because social media has magnified his death more than the press could when Clemente died
February 7th, 2020 at 2:42 PM ^
shit, what a comeback bro
February 6th, 2020 at 7:02 PM ^
Who cares if they were there after the game. They're college students and had a tough luck loss. I spent many a night at Skeeps after being dong punched by girls who weren't interested in me. I'd rather that as opposed to celebrating a loss the Louisville way with strippers.
February 6th, 2020 at 7:44 PM ^
wait hold up, you rather crash into a utility pole than hang with strippers?
February 6th, 2020 at 7:55 PM ^
Crashing into a telephone pole isn't an NCAA violation. Crashing into a stripper pole is a different story.
February 6th, 2020 at 11:18 PM ^
I crashed my pole into a stripper.
February 6th, 2020 at 7:21 PM ^
What a nerd.
February 6th, 2020 at 7:25 PM ^
Upvote from me. Anyone holding the truth against you is a fucking idiot.
February 6th, 2020 at 8:55 PM ^
Before they said they didn’t suspect a substance / alcohol issue, they simply didn’t comment on it. That as well as him initially denying being the driver and you seeing him intoxicated, I’m sure there is nothing to see here ?
Dodge writes that Simpson was given a ticket for driving too fast for the current road conditions, but that police did not comment on whether any impaired driving occurred or if he took a breathalyzer test.
February 6th, 2020 at 9:02 PM ^
Simpson isn’t a fucking idiot for driving Wardes kids car. He’s a fucking idiot for not using Uber or Lyft from fucking Skeeps (if true) AND then lying about being the driver.
The police not testing his BAC is also WTF status. If we pride ourselves on doing the right thing, THEN DO THE FUCKING RIGHT THING.
1 game is far too little for this. I’m not going to play dumb and act like X had 1 beer at Skeeps (LOL) and was the DD for the night. Unless Sasha Obama was in the car with him and the Secret Service got him off the hook, this looks bad. Very bad.
February 6th, 2020 at 9:15 PM ^
How does it look bad ? He didn’t hurt anyone. If there is no victim I don’t see a reason to be upset. The right thing is to get your athletes out of trouble with the law unless they harmed another person. Such as rape, domestic violence, burglary ect.
And sometimes cops just let drunk drivers go. I had a late night with a girl at Tios. I was planning to walk back and go to bed. Ends up her mom demands she come back home to Detroit on 6 mile. So I end up having to drive all the way there after about 8 shots of tequila. Cop pulled me over. I was sure it was over for me. Somehow he just gave me a speeding ticket (apparently I was going 30 over).