wolve1972

December 12th, 2020 at 9:28 AM ^

It's all about hiring the right COLLEGE coach that can relate to kids and their parents - not some weirdo that has a hard time making sense, starting shit up with other colleges/coaches, loving sleepovers, and trying to gain attention with his stupid effing satellite recruiting camps, his overseas trips....... Do I need to go on ? Our school is now a national joke to everyone - including many of the elite recruits

In contrast, starting with Tressel (God I hate him), OSU goes about business in a lethal way and kids notice the difference. You can bet - when recruiting against UM - they use all of the above BS against us.

 

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Red is Blue

December 12th, 2020 at 7:42 AM ^

How do you know Warde isn't taking action?  Because he hasn't bothered to put you in the loop?  Warde is in the process of a multi-million dollar decision and it would be beyond stupid to publicly tip his hand.  If you owned stock in a company, would you expect the CEO to divulge all his strategic plans in the process of a merger?  Hopefully you'd be smart enough to realize that revealing such information would weaken the CEOs negotiating position which, in the long run, is bad for you.

The only definitive thing he can do now is extend Harbaugh.  Even if Harbaugh gets extended later, that doesn't mean Warde messed up by not doing it now.  There could be valid reasons for the delay, such as Warde was having back channel communications with a replacement coach and determined it was better to extend JH.  Although if it goes down that way, I'm sure you and your ilk will roast him regardless.

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East German Judge

December 12th, 2020 at 9:55 AM ^

We use to be a good if not sometimes very good program and now me are mediocre at best. I'm tired of this shit for the last 5+ years:

  • 0-5 vs OSU, with the 2 worst losses ever
  • 3-3 vs MSU
  • 0 B1G titles, not even playing in the B1G title game let alone CFP
  • best road win is against #20 Northwestern
  • 1-4 in bowl games
  • 0-15 when Michigan is an underdog
  • 2-12 vs. top 10 teams
  • worst halftime deficit in Michigan stadium history & 2nd worst loss ever at home
  • home loss to an 0-5 team
  • 4 straight home losses
  • talented players transferring / leaving the program early
  • inability to recruit and develop certain position groups
  • 4th highest paid coach in the country

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December 12th, 2020 at 10:12 AM ^

I agree.  Time for a change.  My point is just because it isn't publicly known (in fact it would be unwise to make it publicly known until it is very far along/complete) doesn't mean Warde isn't working on it.  

Who knows what really happened and if it would have worked out.  But, as an example - Les Miles to M might have tanked because it got out too early.  

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wolve1972

December 11th, 2020 at 8:43 PM ^

I honestly thought their recruiting would take a downward slide after losing Urban. Hell. just the opposite.  Them and Bama are leaving everyone in the dust in 2021.  I read that  both have a shot at breaking Urban / OSU's all time recruit / average on the 247 Composite of 94.59. 

And don't look at their 2022 class commitments if you don't want to be sick. They have 9 and its actually blowing their 2021 class out of the water with a 95.64. It could end up being the highest rated recruiting class ever.

 

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Perkis-Size Me

December 11th, 2020 at 8:56 PM ^

College football is capitalism to the nth degree. The rich get richer every year, and the other 115 teams are just left to pick up the pieces and fight for whatever is left over. 

Not a political argument, but college football loses its luster when Clemson, OSU or Alabama are your predetermined title winners essentially every year, and everyone else is a distant, distant second place. 

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Perkis-Size Me

December 11th, 2020 at 9:19 PM ^

That’s why I love March Madness and college basketball. It’s filled with Cinderellas that make the Final Four at least once every few years. All you need to do is just get into the tournament, and then any team can get hot on any night and then boom, they’re steps away from playing for it all. 

It’s not the same cast of characters (Duke, UNC, UK, KU, MSU) in the Final Four every year. In many years none of them are there. Can’t say the same at all for college football. Same 3-4 teams every single year. 

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Perkis-Size Me

December 12th, 2020 at 8:41 AM ^

I mean sure, they can have an 8 playoff and more teams will get in. But it is still going to be Alabama, Clemson, And OSU making it to the semis and then playing for it all. Michigan would get in every few years but I’d have a hard time seeing them every get past the first round. 

The distance between those top 3 and everyone else, year to year, is the size of the Grand Canyon. That’s just not going to change without some massive, fundamental shift in the game, how it’s played, and how recruiting works. I have no idea what that would look like, but if you want something to really change, that’s what would need to happen. 

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Red is Blue

December 12th, 2020 at 8:12 AM ^

A little top heavy?  24 playoff spots in the 6 year history.  Alabama and Clemson have claimed 10 of those.  Oklahoma has 4 and OSU has 3.  So those 4 teams have 17 appearances, everyone else in the country has 7 combined.  18 games have been played. Clemson and Alabama have won 6 a piece.  Everyone else in the country has won 6 combined.  6 champions.  Alabama and Clemson have 2 a piece.  Everyone else in the country have 2 combined.

It is now beyond boring and has ruined college football.  They need to try something different --  a 16 team field?  Top 2 in each P5 conference auto qualify.  2 G5 teams auto qualify.  No more than 3 from a conference.  Either eliminate conference championship games or incorporate them as the first round since top 2 from each P5 conference qualify.  This would require on more week of play.  If that is intolerable, then start playoffs after 11 weeks and figure out how handle 12th week for non-playoff teams.

 

 

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