hello sir [Bryan Fuller]

Spring Bits: Offense Comment Count

Brian April 15th, 2019 at 1:12 PM

Spring has spung. Let's get it:

Gattis Effect: Check

Sideline play cards: yes.

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i'm trying to figure out if this is a Zavier Simpson reference [Patrick Barron]

Tempo: yes. Under center snaps: no. Huddles: no. Passes under 30 yards in length: yes. Harbaugh talked the talk about handing the keys to Josh Gattis upon his hire, and so far the walk is being walked.

The overall effect wasn't quite Moorhead-era Penn State, though it was reasonably close. The recent football experience Michigan's spring offense brought to mind was in fact the Frost-era UCF team that Michigan played shortly before that program ignited. That OL got absurdly whipped—Michigan's DL got a collective +67.5 in UFR—and Frost managed to chisel out 275 yards rushing all the same. 87 of those came on one play:

UCF spent the whole game running this split action where outside runs are threatened to both field and boundary. I hated it. Every play felt like one mistake from a touchdown. Several mistakes were made and UCF got chunk plays on them because half the defense was busy running the other way.

That UCF team was coming off a legendary 0-12 season and Frost did well to get that group of bunglers to 6-7, but that was largely about the defense. His offense that year was 120th because it was all smoke and mirrors trying to cover up for a dearth of talent. The next year: 6th.

Gattis did this a ton. Michigan had an extensive jet package that was paired with action the other way, often QB run action. McCaffrey's rushing touchdown has a touch of this, with McCaffrey waiting a split second, attempting to sell some flare or crossing action the other way before bursting into a gap:

Other plays were more explicitly about threatening both edges of the field simultaneously. In between Michigan hammered inside zone. The quarterback run game was frequent and diverse—that bit did remind me of Penn State—and baked into the structure of the offense that last year's arc keepers were not. Those arc keepers were really effective but seemed to have no connection to the passing game, because Pep and Warinner were coordinating different offenses. Now there will be one.

Michigan added speed option, and added the IZ-to-speed option look that the D struggled with from time to time last year. They have OZ opposite jet motion. They've got a bunch of short passing looks, and every play someone's trying to take the top off. Spring games can only be so encouraging; this was maximally so.

[After THE JUMP: position by position]

Quarterback

A clear pecking order: Patterson, then McCaffrey, then Milton, then McNamara. Patterson was the only QB to hit guys over the middle with the timing and confidence to set up yards after the catch. McCaffrey and Milton were more likely to default to the fade route down the sideline.

Shea Patterson looked more comfortable running the Gattis-ized offense than he did for most of last year. He took one sack when the pocked collapsed and Jordan Anthony got a free run at him, and even that was probably the right decision given the situation. When he was kept clean it was a lot of this:

Step up in the pocket, check one crosser, no, second guy yes:

The faith Patterson has in his interior OL to make that step up is a new thing for any Michigan QB in the last, what, ten years.

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meep meep? [Fuller]

Dylan McCaffrey continues to make onlookers blink and look owlishly at their drinks whenever he starts moving. His family's entire raison d'être is to be inexplicably fast ostrich people, and he is the final evolution. He didn't actually do a ton of passing because he had so many called runs, and he looked exactly like he did last year.

He did not seem to have the command of the offense that Patterson does, which is in direct contradiction of various practice reports. Those should be taken with a grain of salt, as always. I expect that McCaffrey had an off day passing. He's going to be the least disastrous backup QB in a minute, and next year he'll enter as the presumed starter.

Joe Milton looked like a guy who's still a year away. He had one of the better fade attempts in the game, hitting Erik All down the sideline. He also did this:

He ran decently, but not as well as McCaffrey. His accuracy was improved, but not on Patterson's level. Milton was always going to be a multi-year project after a sub-50% completion percentage in high school, and he's still in the building phase.

Cade McNamara only got in during walk-on time after "halftime" and his performance must be taken in context. He was more likely than any QB other than Patterson to look between the hashes; he was particularly taken with an intermediate crossing route that he hit a couple times and had broken up a couple more. His accuracy was shaky, with a few balls well behind his man. QB runs were off the table in walk-on time so we didn't get to see his mobility.

McNamara did pass the first test, which is to look like a plausible Big Ten quarterback. A similarly-ranked, similar-stature QB in recent history didn't: Alex Malzone. Malzone's first spring appearance was a blizzard of throws behind the LOS, the last of them on a two-minute drill that went four-and-out with three or four of those passes barely downfield, if at all. McNamara was well past that. If he can clean up his accuracy he gives off a Patterson-esque vibe.

Running Back

404. With Evans suspended and Turner and Charbonnet out with injuries there were a few Tru Wilson carries before Ben VanSumeren and a bunch of walk-ons got the rest of the day. VanSumeren looked like Ben Mason. The walk-ons did not pop out. Wilson did have a trademark blitz pickup on one of his few snaps.

This concludes potentially relevant information about running backs.

Wide Receiver

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feet don't fail him now [Fuller]

Tarik Black didn't make anyone's highlight package but did have a shake and bake that took a short gain into the endzone. Now wrap him in cellophane.

Oliver Martin had a touchdown called back when Patterson was ruled to have been sacked:

Gray stops running when he hears the whistle but Martin torched him off the snap; Gray completely whiffs his jam there. Martin came to Michigan with that kind of release-maven, route-artisan rep but has been overshadowed by the DPJ/Collins duo during his tenure. I don't know if that's going to change this year, but if and when Michigan loses a WR or two to the draft Martin will have a couple of years to live up to his own not-inconsiderable recruiting hype.

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i'll take recruiting staffers crowing on twitter if Bell pans out [Fuller]

Ronnie Bell is likely in the same boat, waiting for 2020 when the top of the depth chart is a little less crowded. He added a little bit of data to his burgeoning "is going to be a hit" resume, shaking a Metellus tackle for a big gain:

He could find a niche as a slot guy, I suppose, but I'd like to see him prep for being an outside threat next year since the early returns on his deep stuff are more Manningham and less Eddie McDoom. Man, poor damn Eddie McDoom. Born two years too early.

The new McDoom: Mike Sainristil already featured in an embed above catching an angle route from Patterson. That was out of the backfield, and he was a frequent focus of Michigan's extensive jet package. That is almost by default, admittedly. There is no other plausible slot waterbug on the roster, so Sainristil gets the KJ Hamler stuff. He too dusted Metellus on a crossing route similar to the Bell embed above.

He should be fun but I'm also interested to see how Giles Jackson translates, because that kid's highlight reel is all kinds of ridiculous. Looking forward to Michigan using a slot bug as something other than a freak show for the first time since Steve Breaston.

Tight End

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the golden hour, football edition [Fuller]

I do not have blocking takes because I am a man, not an instant-evaluation machine. Both Nick Eubanks and Sean McKeon made deep, contested catches. In a post-Gentry world it would be nice to continue getting downfield production from the TE spot. Eubanks seems like the better bet, but McKeon was way ahead of him as a blocker—remember that McKeon's issues last year were because he got a whole new offense put on his plate and pretty much only his plate when Michigan hurriedly installed the arc stuff.

Erik All was one of the most impressive players to last into the walk-on session. He got some early time, too, and made a contested catch of his own:

Yes, that's the dreaded slot fade. All is not a tight end yet and honestly… does he have to be one? He gave off a Funchess vibe as a WR. It's possible they just let him stay at WR under Gattis. Either way it's a redshirt for him despite the impressive start. There's no room for him yet.

Offensive Line

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coming for yoooou [Barron]

It's impossible to get anything detailed on OL live unless that's the only thing you're watching so this will be some feelingsball. That feelingsball: pretty good. Michigan frequently delivered VanSumeren three yards downfield, whereupon he was whistled down. In a bonafide tackle football game those three yard gains are 5-7. The backup line did similarly well. The obvious caveat is the DT situation, which is Not Good.

Since we're talking about four established Big Ten starters any data you get from a spring game is 1% as useful as 13 actual football games, anyway. We more or less know what the line is going to be like aside from right tackle. The backups performed about as well as the starters but the DT situation for the twos was Ben Mason and Mazi Smith, a converted fullback and a freshman. So… yeah.

The one development that does feel meaningful is the semi-frequent deployment of outside zone. To say Michigan's OL does not seem to be built for OZ is an understatement. Watching Mike Onwenu trundling behind the backside DT last year was inevitable and slightly sad.

But part of threatening the sideline is having OZ and variants thereof in your back pocket. The McCaffrey TD above is OZ for most of the line (Runyan, the exception, pulls around the TE for a kickout). Michigan ran a lot of OZ drills in the open practice. They're going to try to make it work. And despite a RG who will look like a fish out of water every time they try it it's got a real chance if Cesar Ruiz is a dude. This may be true. OZ gets a lot easier for a center if he can do this to a 330-pound draftable NT:

If they're worried about getting blown downfield that reach step outside gets a lot more effective. Ruiz is the rare player who has the power to do the above and the agility to maybe put some David Molk in his game. And if the C gets a reach block on OZ the other blocks don't matter. A lot hinges on Ruiz taking a step towards the Rimington.

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Mayfield looks the part [Barron]

Meanwhile right tackle is the kind of battle where the contenders split snaps with the 1s and 2s because it's that close. Jalen Mayfield and Andrew Stueber are those contenders. If forced to pick a winner your author would go with Stueber, because he's a year older and has a couple hundred live-fire snaps under his belt. It's only good for Mayfield and Michigan that this is enough of a competition to split snaps. Mayfield looks like he belongs most of the time, though Hutchinson did get him on a spin move in some drill-work early.

The other young OL of interest, Ryan Hayes, is much bigger than last year. He is still not big enough and was deployed during the walk-ons portion of the scrimmage. He is on track to contend… in 2020.

Comments

UMFanStuckInIA

April 15th, 2019 at 1:48 PM ^

Walked into a gym in Lawrence, KS and a woman by the entrance was decked out in Michigan gear, so I of course said "Go Blue" and she stopped me to talk.  Turns out she was Ronnie Bell's aunt.  Guessing she had no idea a couple hours later her nephew was going to provide the highlight above!

Go Blue!

tomh8

April 15th, 2019 at 2:00 PM ^

I bet the defense will be a lot better at defending spread type offenses/crossing routes from the daily looks they'll get from this offense

m_go_T

April 15th, 2019 at 2:50 PM ^

My thoughts exactly.  The biggest plus of this is that the defense's weaknesses will be pointed out in practice and what adjustments need to be made, namely on the back 7, can be made sometime before halftime of the OSU game.  Our biggest problem on D was when we cannot get to the QB in time.  Seemed like we had no workable solution.  This would provide us with an opportunity to try new things in practice.  

While it may make the defense a bit less prepared for MSU rock fights, I think the offense should be able to light up MSUs defense, as it is specifically tailored to win rock fights. 

1201

April 15th, 2019 at 3:05 PM ^

The problem with this line of thinking is that UM plays almost exclusively man defense and it relies on having more talent than the guy lined up across from them. UM was able to suffocate teams where this was the case, and then got exposed vs teams that had equal or more talent .This has been a theme for the past 3 years. Unless Brown plans on changing his scheme there is no way to make adjustments for their weaknesses. Our DT's will be just guys, Gil will continue to get exploited, and our safeties are going to be a freshman and another "just a guy." I hope like hell Brown surprises me this year, but people forget how last year ended and that was with NFL draft picks all over the field, which we won't have this year.

ThePolishFalcon

April 15th, 2019 at 4:29 PM ^

The defense does get daily looks, that’s what the defense does during the week preparing for the next game.   Do you really think the UM defense doesn’t prepare for spread teams and only goes up against UM’s 1985 style offense? 

It comes down to OSU having better athletes than UM.  Come on!  It’s all about recruiting in college football.  

tomh8

April 15th, 2019 at 4:38 PM ^

So wrong on so many levels, UM's defense has gotten daily looks at a spread offense? Absolutely not true.  Mich did not run a spread at all last spring and would only practice with a fake spread offense on weekdays leading up to a game against a team that ran a spread. 

Now mich will be consistently running an up tempo spread type of offense that the defense will face much more than they have in the past.  And they will be better at it than whatever scout team was running it in years past

1201

April 15th, 2019 at 4:55 PM ^

I remember reading things like this when rich rod was hired and we all know how that turned out. The reality is it doesn't matter what offense you run or don't run, if you're going to keep asking inferior athletes to cover the likes of OSU 4 and 5 stars in space you're going to lose every time. So the solution is to play more zone or start recruiting better. It actually has nothing to do with what UM's offense is doing. Besides they are facing scout teams all week.

Gucci Mane

April 15th, 2019 at 7:07 PM ^

Yeah I think some zone would be smart against OSU. However, there is definitely something to be said about practicing against a spread offense every weak. Just another piece of competing with OSU. 

Bodogblog

April 15th, 2019 at 9:08 PM ^

In spring and fall camp, there are multiple scrimmages of varying degrees of live action.  These are very, very important for determining the 2 deep.  When they do these, especially the 2 or 3 that are super for realz, everyone is going 100%.  These will be 1s vs. 1s and 2s vs 2s and a mix, but importantly, they'll be running their real stuff.  The coaches are trying to beat each other too.  They'll get excellent practice time at the highest intensity here.  

After spring and the early part of Fall camp, they leave this behind for the most part.  Week to week the scout teams for both offense and defense are mimicking the opponent.  But a lot of the time this is half speed, and when it is full go, your obviously playing the 3rd/4th stringers so it's not the most intense.  Maybe once or twice during the season if the coaches get pissed you'll go 1s vs 1s.  But you'd only return to it again during bowl prep. 

Overall, yes having an offense that looks like OSU's will help the team prepare for OSU.  Spring and Fall scrimmages can be some of the most important practice time college teams have. 

Bodogblog

April 15th, 2019 at 10:53 PM ^

See, if you had any self-awareness, you might understand that this statement completely and utterly destroys your original "must recruit better UNACCEPTABLE" thing.  Because MSU doesn't recruit at near the level of OSU or Michigan, but they play really good defense.  

Of course they year before they were torched for 35 points in the first half, in a game that was over with about 5 minutes gone in the 2nd quarter.  OSU could have scored 100 that day if they didn't start packing up the bench at halftime.  

So, yet again, you're concern trolling and doing a poor job of it. 

Mfrank

April 15th, 2019 at 11:35 PM ^

No, because if you had any self awareness you would understand MSU doesn't play man defense like UM does which relies on having more talent than the guy across from you. MSU plays cover 4. They also do need more talent because they went 7-6, but I'm the one who needs more self awareness? LOL.

OSU could have scored 100 on Michigan last year too, but I'm trolling for pointing out that this years defense lacks talent even though the guy who runs this site said the same exact thing today?

Posters like you who make excuses for everything are fucking pathetic.

Hackett 4 President

April 16th, 2019 at 11:35 AM ^

The ONLY thing that is truly pathetic here Maizen or Shawn or Bluey or whatever the fuck you want to call yourself, is how many accounts you make to spend time on this blog. It is so painfully obvious dude. Mfrank and 1201 are your latest that will get banned soon. Get a job fucker

Mongo

April 15th, 2019 at 2:04 PM ^

At a 64% completion rate, Patterson has the accuracy to make this new offense hum.  Really excited to get the season going back to full strength.  Adding DPJ, Collins and Turner will be an even bigger step up from what we saw in the spring.

It seems like this Gattis offense attacks all three areas of the field on each play - short, intermediate and long. Good thing we have added more slot bugs to the roster and have plenty of fast WRs - just keep the wave of speed rotating in to face some gassed DBs.  Need to find that all-purpose RB that fits this type of offense. Not sure where we stand there given all the out guys. 

But overall the ceiling for this offense appears really high.   Go Blue !!!

maize-blue

April 15th, 2019 at 2:14 PM ^

I remember when Rich Rod was starting there were notions that with his offense paired with UM's recruiting that he'd be able to stack the offense with playmakers.

I sort of have that feeling again. That a Gattis offense paired with UM's recruiting resources could help get 1 or 2 more playmakers a year than they'd usually get for manball.

RockinLoud

April 15th, 2019 at 2:33 PM ^

Any offense that is doing similar things to Frost and Moorhead is a positive in my opinion. Both are probably top 10, maybe top 5, offensive minds in CFB right now.

Wanigas

April 15th, 2019 at 3:29 PM ^

"His family's entire raison d'être is to be inexplicably fast ostrich people, and he is the final evolution." 

Your exceptional writing skills bring great joy, Brian! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Go Blue! 

bronxblue

April 15th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^

Just a great read.  It'll be weird for a Michigan team to rely on it's offense to paper over weaknesses on defense, but this unit looks to be pretty scary.  Of course, it makes me cry a bit inside that they didn't get religion a year or two earlier, but ah well.

plamonge

April 15th, 2019 at 5:12 PM ^

I like what we're doing. I predict, however, posts next near that go something like this:

"JH is stubborn and won't ever change. We need to open up the offense."

Mgoeffoff

April 15th, 2019 at 7:00 PM ^

I just find it frustrating that we are still having depth issues in the 5th year of JH.  O-line finally seems OK, assuming last year's class pans out.  But, why are we having CB depth issues? Why aren't JKP, Green, and Sims ready to contribute yet as 4 star players in years 2 and 3?  And, we've only got one 4-star CB with a verbal for 2020.  We need to find the next Lewis, Long, Hill, Thomas, etc. fast.  And, Solomon is really hurting us again at DT.  I can't complain about recruiting because Mazi & Hinton just came/are coming in, but sheesh.  It's just frustrating we still have so many depth concerns.  OSU is at the end of the year and I guarantee there will be injuries.  I just wish we still had guys like Hudson, Solomon, Singleton, etc.  We seem to have more of these transfers than other folks and I'm not sure why.  

 

lhglrkwg

April 15th, 2019 at 8:44 PM ^

The faith Patterson has in his interior OL to make that step up is a new thing for any Michigan QB in the last, what, ten years.

it hurts how true that is. My how 10 years flies by 

njvictor

April 15th, 2019 at 9:19 PM ^

I don't get the continued mention of Eddie McDoom. I don't see a lot of similarity between him and Bell or Sainristil besides height. McDoom was an athlete with long strides who took jet sweeps and never showed promise of being a good receiver. I've already seen more promise out of Bell and Sainristil

Mfrank

April 15th, 2019 at 9:42 PM ^

The Bell and Sainristil hype is out of control. We're talking about the 5th and 6th receivers at best next year. I think Giles Jackson and Cornelius Johnson are going to have something to say about that as well. I have no expectations for Kent or Johnson, who I think are two major reaches by the staff.

njvictor

April 15th, 2019 at 10:35 PM ^

Ronnie Bell was an unranked basketball player who came in and proved his upside as a freshman. Sainristil has come in and shown he's already a quick and refined receiver as an early enrollee. Will they make a huge impact this year? Probably not. But in 2020, they'll be main contributors and it's good to see them already playing well

Mfrank

April 15th, 2019 at 11:39 PM ^

Of course they will contribute in 2020 because Black, Nico, and DPJ will all be gone early from the 2017 class and Mitchell, McDoom, Crawford, and Johnson all washed out from 2016. So when you sign only one WR in 2018 (Bell), uh yeah, you're going to get on the field by default. Now people will incorrectly assume it's some great find by the staff but the reality is outside of 2017 WR has recruiting has been pretty shitty. In 2019 they signed one outside WR and four 3 star slots. Makes no sense but that's par for the course for this staff and why we can't get over the hump. Reminds me of how they didn't sign any OT's in 2016 and years later we are paying for it. I just want to know when UM fans are going to admit to get where we want to go we need to recruit better, or is it going to take another 20 years of ass kicking from OSU to get that through people's thick skulls.

Sten Carlson

April 16th, 2019 at 10:14 AM ^

I just want to know when UM fans are going to admit to get where we want to go we need to recruit better, or is it going to take another 20 years of ass kicking from OSU to get that through people's thick skulls.

 

I have to ask, as it’s always the same tone with this take, what difference does it make what Michigan fans think or admit/believe?  You and your cohorts seem obsessed upon arguing points to people who have no capacity to control the situation.  It’s like you’re trying to get a confession out of Michigan fans.  You claim we have thick skulls, yet we could have Neanderthal-esque bone density and it matters not one iota.  Ok, I admit it, Michigan needs to recruit better ... now what?  See below.  

 

 

Mfrank

April 16th, 2019 at 12:02 PM ^

And you and your cohorts seem to think "everything is fine" when we've lost at least 3 games every year, have no championships to show for it, are a combined 0-5 against OSU and ND, and don't understand we are so far away talent wise from competing with bama and clemson and osu and uga 5 years in that it's laughable. Bama would put up 70 on this defense.

Sten Carlson

April 16th, 2019 at 10:03 AM ^

Here’s my take on the changes, recruiting, beating OSU, etc.  ... sorry I’m not going to post replies in those horrible stretched out reply strings.  

First and foremost, it’s exciting so see Michigan’s offense actually put pressure on a the defense at multiple levels and widths at once, even if it was only brief glimpses.  Out execute them by making them choose wrong.  I think it was Eubanks’ presser when he said something to that effect.  Make a choice Mr. Defender, and we’re going the other way as opposed to trying to “beat” you.  Refreshing.  

As this offensive scheme change unfolds I think we’re going to see recruiting change as well, and perhaps significantly.  As others have aptly pointed out, this offensive style is THE style of almost all HS programs today.  So, Michigan’s recruiting always seemed like it was going in and trying to hand pick players who, although they’ve never played in the Michigan style scheme, would fit.  Sometimes that works, sometimes we’re left thinking the guy either never developed or developed in a limited capacity.  

It should be different now.  I think what makes OSU so formidable — aside from being the only P5 program in a hotbed state — is that there are very few square pegs being recruited because they run the same schemes as almost every HS program they recruit from.   Even lesser programs seem to find guys who exceed their recruiting ranking because of this effect.  For a program with the overall pull of Michigan, this (I think) could be the nudge that closes the gap further and gives us a better chance to win the B10 and beyond.  

The other consideration that I think cannot be overlooked is the OL ship, both on campus and in recruiting, seems to have finally been wrighted.  I know it rankles people but it’s a fact that the OL recruiting cycle is 5 years, and it’s still not yet 2 full cycles ago (2010) that Michigan took a total of ZERO OLinemen.  I promise you no contender in any P5 conference has a similar OL recruiting history.   Now add to that some spectacular busts, transfers, injuries, and flat out retirements and I think we all need to breath a sigh of relief as it seem that great tribulation appears to be over.  Every unit has its ups and downs but when a team can say their OL is their strength, they’ve got a chance.  

 Now that Michigan is going to be looking at a much larger pool of potential recruits, they’re going to have more recruiting wins (because Michigan) and more under the radar hits (because scheme).  OL and QB — the two most important positions and the two pipelines Michigan really failed to maintain — are back in full flow.  The trajectory was up from the low and I think it really starts to go vertical from here on out.  

I’m highly optimistic!

Go Blue!

Mfrank

April 16th, 2019 at 11:59 AM ^

Michigan took zero OT's in 2016. Do we have to wait until 2021 to get that fixed too since you claim OL "cycle" whatever the hell that is takes 5 years? Stop making excuses. The coaches need to get it done this year. The recruiting needs to pickup because the 2020 class is trending exactly like the 2018 class was. Yeah the offense will be good this year, then next year they'll be a mass exodus of talent and people will make excuses about all the talent we lost instead of realizing UM should be reloading at this point in the JH era. There is no such thing as under the radar recruits anymore. Everyone has hudl, everyone goes to camps and combines. Everyone plays 7v7. There are a million recruiting sites giving these kids exposure. The rankings are accurate. Look at the UM roster and tell me they aren't if you don't think so. It's painfully obvious our best players are also our highest rated recruits. People need to wake the fuck up.

Bodogblog

April 16th, 2019 at 12:43 PM ^

You are now exposed as the digital version of a man walking around with his pants down, pissing and shitting himself, while holding his fists up trying to pick fights.  This man is 115 lbs and has never been a threat to anyone in his life. 

People will no longer engage you, they'll just stay at a distance until the police come along to collect you. 

Sten Carlson

April 16th, 2019 at 2:49 PM ^

People need to wake the fuck up.

and do what, exactly?

Everything is not fine, but comments like this always seem to be pointing to an elephant in the room but you refuse to come out and say it.  But, when someone does say, "so you're saying ..." you say, "I never said that ... "  No, not explicitly, but you elude to it constantly. 

Just say it, dude.  You're (and perhaps your multiple identities) unpopular enough.  What do you care.  It's clear what you think and that you'll never think otherwise, but you dance around it and make hyperbolic statements like, "recruit better ... " or "win more ..." that are really meaningless.

Just say that we need to "wake the fuck up and ... fire Harbaugh."  I know I know, you never said that.  But, what other conclusion can we come to with you incessant ranting?  What else can WE do about it but join your side of the argument and stoke those fires of discord?