Shea Patterson's Gonna Start
BREAKING:
Official from Michigan: Shea Patterson will be its starting QB at Notre Dame.
— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) August 20, 2018
This surprises nobody and may or may not be meaningful. The apparent sequence of events: Harbaugh tells local Alumni Association group that Patterson will start, word filters out, reporters ask, Michigan shrugs and says yes. On the one hand, that means there's been little mystery inside the program for a while. On the other, this may have been the case for previous QB battles but there was no precipitating event.
Anyway, prepare for the Tatening 2.0.
August 20th, 2018 at 2:28 PM ^
Woot!
August 20th, 2018 at 2:30 PM ^
Let's go get it!
August 20th, 2018 at 2:31 PM ^
re: How different this is from previous years:
Rudock was a similarly clear starter. Speight didn't get the "keys" until a week before kickoff in 2016, and it came as a surprise to some people in the know. Last year was thought to be pretty open-and-shut, yet the staff was still ready to have O'Korn trot out there in the opening game after Speight's pick-sixes, so it might have been closer than we thought.
This seems more of a sure thing like Rudock than either of Speight's starting nods. But that's just my opinion from waaaay outside the program.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:48 PM ^
Wasn't there some Harbaugh quote on Rudock like, "he's the starter, and it's not particularly close " ???
August 21st, 2018 at 9:08 AM ^
I think that was after the Utah game and he was asked about the qb situation.
Could be wrong though....
August 21st, 2018 at 3:37 PM ^
I just wonder how O'Korn kept his name in the ring. I mean, his play in the games wasn't quite at the same level. I wonder if he was an amazing practice player but the pressure got to him on game day.
August 20th, 2018 at 2:31 PM ^
Oh no! Brian Kelly now knows who to prepare for.
/s
August 20th, 2018 at 2:34 PM ^
duh?
August 20th, 2018 at 2:35 PM ^
Dope
August 20th, 2018 at 2:35 PM ^
It's good and bad IMO. If you are stud QB why come to Michigan? I was hoping Dylan or Brandon got it.
August 20th, 2018 at 2:51 PM ^
Huh? They still have their chance, especially if Shae is gone after this season. If Peters transfers out that makes 1 unsuccessful blue chip QB under Harbaugh. Pus with the amount of QBs that transfer nowadays, I don't see this being a negative for recruiting
August 20th, 2018 at 2:52 PM ^
Yeah, because we have been getting so many studs up to this point. We have been turning 5 stars away.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:00 PM ^
Hoping for anyone other than the best QB to get the starting nod is lunacy.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:34 PM ^
Not the point, Harbaugh's 4th year he has yet to have a QB he recruited Start or be the No 2 QB, until this year.
I was hoping Harbaugh recruited the best QB on the Roster, for the 4th year this is not so.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:50 PM ^
Harbaugh recruited Rudock, JOK and Shea, though.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^
Year 1 of Harbaugh- impossible to start QB he recruited
Year 2 of Harbaugh- only option was true freshman
Year 3 of Harbaugh- he started Peters, who wasn't yet good enough
Year 4 of Harbaugh- he starts Shea
Harbaugh "recruited" Ruddock and Patterson. And had no chance to start his recruit in 2 of 4 years. Therefore your post is garbage.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^
That's a little misleading. Rudock was recruited by Harbaugh and started the entire 2015 season. O'Korn was also recruited by Harbaugh and was considered the No 2 QB in 2016 and 2017. Of course, they were transfers, but still recruited by Harbaugh
In a perfect world, QB's are usually RS sophomores or juniors when they start, so 3 years without a Harbaugh recruit (out of HS) as a starter isn't that big of a deal.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:25 PM ^
In other words, you'd prefer an inferior QB to get the starting nod - simply because Harbaugh recruited him.
That's weird.
I'm relieved you're not involved in the decision process.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:38 PM ^
I don't think the criticism is that he didn't purposely start a worse player, but rather he either mis-ID'ed the talent he recruited or mis-developed it so they haven't beat out transfer options yet. I don't personally buy it, but it's not an invalid criticism, even if it is slightly premature.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:51 PM ^
Actually, he explicitly said, "I was hoping Dylan or Brandon got it," referring to the starting nod.
So, if we agree that Shea is better than DM and BP, then we also agree he's advocating starting a worse QB because "Harbaugh recruited him."
Priority #1 for the coaches should be fielding the best team possible for every game - not validating Harbaugh's recruiting* abilities.
*footnote: the process whereby Harbaugh wooed Shea to Michigan WAS recruiting
August 20th, 2018 at 7:30 PM ^
I think he meant "got it" as in "learned and developed to the point they're the best QB". That's how I interpreted the whole post; not wishing that we were starting a lesser QB out of principle, but wishing that BP or DM had developed to the point they could beat out Shea. I don't wholly disagree, it would be nice if the guys who'd been in the system longer proved to be the best. That said, and I feel like this should not be a controversial point (though it seems to be?), I want us to play the QB that gives us the best chance to win, and right now that sure seems to be Shea. A little bummed that BP or DM didn't prove to be that guy yet, but they're young and there's time once Shea moves on.
August 20th, 2018 at 10:55 PM ^
If we win with Patterson, I highly doubt recruits are going to care. Play your best QB and just won baby!
August 21st, 2018 at 3:39 PM ^
The first two years he was working with what he had. Peters is the first guy really who had a chance, and then Patterson dropped in our lap. You don't turn that down.
I have high hopes for McCaffery, and eventually Milton. Who knows about Peters, but we'll find out.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^
So....you wanted the best quarterback on the roster to not be helping the team this year, so that a higher ranked recruit would want to come to UM in the future, so that a team years from now could potentially better...?
That, uh.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:02 PM ^
Yeah, that's what "swoosh" is saying. Reminds me of a discussion leading up to the season a couple of years ago, about whether UM should try to get Taysom Hill to transfer here. Some people here on this forum said doing so would be bad for QB recruiting in the future. But imagine the 2016 team with a QB such as Hill. I thought the past couple of years had put an end to views like swoosh's.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:51 PM ^
Having a good QB helps QB recruiting.
Winning helps QB recruiting.
Putting people in the NFL helps QB recruiting.
There is no downside to having a good QB.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:10 PM ^
Shea is a stud QB, or so we hope. Even though he's a transfer, he was recruited by Harbaugh just as Dylan and Brandon were. The message this sends is exactly what Harbaugh has always said: it's a meritocracy and the QB who wins will start.
Besides, as last year proves, a backup QB may start games and may be critical to Michigan's performance.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:35 PM ^
Kudos to Harbaugh for pulling a Constanza and doing the opposite. I knew there was a method to championship madness.
August 20th, 2018 at 5:25 PM ^
Why do people think this? Stupid ass rationalization. The reason we need to get transfers is because we’re not getting good enough qbs from high school in the first place. What? We shouldn’t accept 5 star transfers now?
August 20th, 2018 at 5:39 PM ^
Isn’t Shea a stud QB who came to Michigan
August 20th, 2018 at 8:44 PM ^
It's the opposite-show you're the best and you play. Show me a 5* who does not think he's the best.
August 20th, 2018 at 2:35 PM ^
Shea Patterson about to put up more touchdowns than James Patterson has books!!!
August 20th, 2018 at 2:40 PM ^
Dude, you can do better than this. How about:
"Shea Patterson is about to get slicker than butter out there."
Or maybe:
"We about to get more Shea than an ashy lady's elbow."
August 20th, 2018 at 2:36 PM ^
Shea Patterson about to put up more touchdowns than James Patterson has books!!!
August 20th, 2018 at 3:03 PM ^
NFW if you count the books that James Patterson co-wrote with others. Have you seen his recent flood of co-authored books on supermarket shelves lately? Sheesh.
August 20th, 2018 at 6:47 PM ^
But after his first touchdown he'll have more touchdowns than books of James Patterson worth reading.
August 20th, 2018 at 2:38 PM ^
I'M FUCKING FREAKING OUT WITH EXCITEMENT FOR SEPT. 1!!!!
August 20th, 2018 at 2:40 PM ^
I heard he has been BALLIN in practice.
-Rivals.com
August 20th, 2018 at 4:53 PM ^
Who was that guy who went REALLY REALLY racist a couple years ago, then tried to distract everyone by 'reporting' that a player was balling out in practice...when practice hadn't started yet?
August 20th, 2018 at 2:46 PM ^
Good to know, I think it helps the program to know who has the keys to the offense and they can rally behind him.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:01 PM ^
Go take care of business boys!
Hail
August 20th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^
I believe the sequence of events was different. The team was told yesterday before the alum meeting.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^
I expect Peters to get some significant snaps in that first game (like O'Korn did against Florida), but good to see Paterson take the spot.
August 20th, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^
I expect Peters to get some significant snaps in that first game (like O'Korn did against Florida)
Why?
August 20th, 2018 at 4:42 PM ^
Um because, uh that way we can juggle enough talent in every game so as not to lose anyone to transfer. Kinda like the way we did with Henson. That really paid off in spades didn’t it? Good thing Carr didn’t let Brady have one single solid confident season without the game of rotating stars, cause then Henson was there committed to the program when we really needed him. Huh?
August 20th, 2018 at 5:37 PM ^
There was no rotation in 1998, Brady's junior year. It was only in '99 that we platooned (for the first half of the season).
August 20th, 2018 at 6:17 PM ^
Brady started all 13 games in '98, going 214/350. Henson saw action in 8 games, going 21/47.
So there was no platoon, as you pointed out.
August 21st, 2018 at 10:57 PM ^
Is Peters really the 2nd best QB on the team? He seemed out of sorts last year. Maybe it was the OL.
August 20th, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^
Does Brian really think Shea is in the same mold at Tate?
Cause if so, I'm gonna be sad.
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