[Patrick Barron]

On Harbaugh Watch 2023 Comment Count

Seth January 3rd, 2023 at 4:37 PM

The short version is I don't know anything. But I can't focus on UFR, and threw out a Neck Sharpies, and already updated my starts and snaps data for the year, so we might as well talk about it.

What's the evidence that Harbaugh is pursuing NFL jobs?

Credible reporters say so. Bruce Feldman reported "multiple sources close to Jim Harbaugh" believe he would take an NFL coaching job if it was offered. One source used the "done deal" phrasing.

Feldman is a guy we are pretty sure Harbaugh or at least his staff have a strong rapport with.

John U Bacon has a source who says it's serious, and has to do with frustration with college football:

Carolina Panthers beat reporters are pretty sure Harbaugh spoke with their owner.

That is more than enough smoke to take seriously. I do not believe these reporters would lie, or use sources who might lead them astray. Harbaugh is taking NFL calls.

[After THE JUMP: Evidence to the contrary, what does your heart tell you?]

What's the evidence that Harbaugh is staying at Michigan (you know, other than what he said a month ago)?

All circumstantial. The strongest one is that Harbaugh has an agent this time, and the contract he accepted after the 2020 season, which was reworked and extended last year, feels long past due for an upgrade.

Harbaugh's son is liking tweets that mock the media for reporting Harbaugh to NFL rumors.

Friend of Harbaugh Todd Anson has been critical of the media sharing the story, and while not 100% committal, believes Harbaugh would stay true to his word.

Anson also noted that last year it came out that Harbaugh had told recruits he was interesting in the NFL still, whereas this year he was telling them he plans to be at Michigan in 2023.

Kunkel's read on the situation might be a little pipe-dreamy, considering he also reported this:

Of all the reporting on this, the thing I have the hardest time believing is Jim Harbaugh told someone he feared competition.

C'mon Seth, I know you talk to people, or they talk to you. Don't you have any idea what's going to happen?

I'm as curious as anyone, but I also don't think it's worth anyone's time for me to badger people. I'm not a breaking news guy, and if I suddenly fancied myself one I'm hardly likely to become a better one than the extraordinary professionals who cover Michigan.

I thought he promised he was staying.

Here's Jim Harbaugh to Mitch Albom after flying to Minneapolis last year not expecting to be back:

“There was a tugging at me that I was once that close to a Super Bowl and I didn’t get it. Some NFL jobs came open. I was contacted by the (Minnesota) Vikings. For better or for worse, it was something I wanted to explore. I went in thinking, ‘I’m gonna have 100 percent conviction on this, and if they (Minnesota) have 100 percent conviction on this, then it’s something I’m gonna do.” …

“I called Warde (Manuel, the Michigan athletic director) and I asked him if he wanted me to be the head coach. And he said, ‘Yes, 100 percent.’ And I said, OK then. That’s what I want to do.'

“And I told him, ‘Warde, this will not be a reoccurring theme every year. This was a one-time thing.”

Here's Jim Harbaugh to Tom VanHaaren as NFL jobs started to open up last December:

"That time of the year type of speculation, but I think no man knows the future," Harbaugh said. "But I think that people that think we've done a good job and are pleased with the job that we've done here at Michigan, they're going to be very happy to learn that we will be back enthusiastically coaching the Wolverines in 2023. And for those people that don't approve of the job we've done or would rather see somebody else coaching here, I think they'll be most likely disappointed to learn we'll be back coaching the Wolverines and in 2023." …

"It's really biblical, no man knows the future. I can't make vows of what's going to happen or what's not going to happen," Harbaugh said. "If you don't mind, I ask you a question. I mean, there's tremendous coaches right here in our league: Ryan Day, Greg Schiano, Bret Bielema, Jeff Brohm. I could go on and on, P.J. Fleck.

"I think, the job that they've done, they deserve to be asked the same question."

The headline we all took from this conversation was "Will be enthusiastically coaching the Wolverines in 2023." That was enough to skip "I can't make vows" and "no man knows the future." It is a completely fair reading of this statement. It is also completely fair to read "This will not be a reoccurring theme every year. This was a one-time thing," as a promise not to slam the football program into a roadblock while he interviews for outs a second time.

What jobs are being discussed?

For the moment, the Broncos, the Panthers, and maybe the Colts. That is also the entire list of open NFL jobs at the moment, but more will open up after the Super Bowl.

Colin Cowherd reported that as of yesterday afternoon the Broncos offer is for $20 million/year for Harbaugh, which is more than twice what the average NFL coach makes, and twice what the richest NCAA coaches make. Cowherd also said Sean Payton is the #1 choice (in the whole market), and would be offered "mid-20s" IE a lot more.

People remember Harbaugh on the Colts. Harbaugh is in the Ring of Honor (and Marlin Jackson is not, which feels weird). But NFL people think that situation—with a meddlesome owner and a GM with a strong fence around his territory—is too like the 49ers.

Has Jim Harbaugh slammed the football program into a roadblock while he interviews for outs a second time?

Yes. He also can remove it at any time.

Is this going to hurt the program?

It is unless there are stronger assurances given. Since 24 hours of reporting have already elapsed without Harbaugh shooting the speculation down, it's quite clear now that last year wasn't a "one-time thing." Anyone who took Harbaugh's recommitment to Michigan last year at his word now has to doubt it. If we go through the entire NFL carousel again and get the same recommitment, nobody's going to trust it.

There is a way to end the speculation: work out out a new contract with Michigan that has the kind of buyout that secures both sides to each other. Right now that buyout is $3 million, which is nothing to an NFL team. Michigan has an equally paltry buyout if they wanted to end the relationship, which seemed wise at the time. Two years later, things are bit different.

What does Michigan do if he leaves?

I can't begin to answer that now. If they go internal, Moore is the obvious choice, but none of these guys has ever been a college head coach.

What do you think is happening?

There are two scenarios that fit the information before us.

SCENARIO 1: HARBAUGH WANTS BACK IN THE NFL

After 2020, and the subsequent contract negotiations with Michigan, it is entirely plausible that Harbaugh decided he's going to take the next NFL ladder that comes his way. There wasn't going to be one in January 2021, and in January 2022 he met with the Vikings expecting to have the job and came away empty. His assurances were necessary to do his job—after that he couldn't say "Yeah, I'm going to the next NFL team that takes me"—but pointedly did not come with a contract renegotiation that would have made those assurances more than words. As soon as the 2022 season was over, Harbaugh let his people know he's interested in NFL jobs again, and has been fielding calls. If/when one offers what he's looking for (probably a level of personnel control) he's gone.

SCENARIO 2: HARBAUGH IS RENEGOTIATING WITH AN AGENT

As I understand it, this is the first time Harbaugh's using an agent—the 2015 deal was done with Hackett at an airport bar and included things like what color the yellow has to be. The 2020 deal was just Manuel and Harbaugh. Agents know to do things like put it out there that James Franklin's name has been linked to the USC and LSU openings. If Michigan's negotiating a contract with Harbaugh's agent right now, that agent is telling Harbaugh don't deny anything. If NFL teams call to discuss their positions, and it gets reported that those teams called, and that puts pressure on Michigan to give Harbaugh whatever he desires, that's an agent's job well done. If fans have a conniption fit in the meantime, that's their problem, so long as this gets done before it damages recruiting.

Given Harbaugh left himself an out in his statement in December, and the tenor of reporting on this, and the absurdity of the numbers being thrown out there for NFL coaching jobs, I would guess it's 60% the top one.

What do you think will happen?

One aspect of this that might be playing a role is the market for football talent and the market for coaching talent are suddenly coming from the same pool. Yes, this was already true to a degree—when Alabama paid a guy named Tosh over $1 million/year it wasn't because Tosh was keeping all of it. But the way NIL is working out is donors are being diverted to collectives that in turn pay the players a salary. Those are the same donors who've often been called upon to soak up big coaching contracts (and buyouts). Michigan hasn't had any big asks lately, but nobody in college is in a position to throw insane money at the coach right now with so many new hands to feed.

Another aspect is that Harbaugh is 58 and being a college football coach is much harder, if more secure, than being an NFL coach. The older he gets the harder that gets, so long-term security is no longer top of mind. If Harbaugh's ever going to win a Super Bowl, his window to start building that team is the next five years. If he's ever going to have the leverage to demand the kind of control and trust he wants to do that, it's now. Michigan may be a favorite to win the Big Ten and return to the Playoff in 2023, but that's an extraordinarily hard thing to do even if you're good enough.

Harbaugh might also feel that he's leaving Michigan in a good place (2nd base at the very least). Ideally, were it his intention to go back to the NFL, he'd have lined up a successor on staff and spent a year pointing to that guy. Also ideally Michigan would be preparing for a national championship right now instead of huddled around waiting for coach to tell us if he wants to be here. If it turns out he does, this time I'm going to need a second source.

Comments

gbdub

January 3rd, 2023 at 8:01 PM ^

I was going off of Seth but you’re right. Still, if that contract doesn’t have a buyout big enough to keep Harbaugh from flirting with the NFL, that’s still on Warde. If he tried hard to get it in there and Harbaugh wouldn’t bite, then Warde should have taken that as a sign and have a really clear “Harbaugh is considering NFL options” action plan. 

ak47

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:25 PM ^

The only reason I think he stays is that next year is probably his best shot at a national championship. The team this year took advantage of a weak schedule and also played above its talent level but had some pretty clear holes. Next years team will be the most talented on paper Harbaugh has had at Michigan. Third year in the program JJ is his best QB, Edwards is a step down from a 1-2 punch of Corum and Edwards but is still a very good RB, the offensive line will likely take a small step back but not a big one, the WR's losing Bell hurts but the room is a year older and overall more physically talented and another year of development of Loveland is better than the version we got this year.

The bigger change is on defense though, where additional development on the inside from the young guys and Jenkins coming back makes the DT group just as good, guys like Moore and Eyobi getting an offseason and other year in the program plus the transfer improve the organic pass rush, getting NHG and an offseason for Rolder makes the linebacker group actually pretty solid and we aren't losing any of the top 3 safeties. All you have to do is convince Turner to come back and the defense is just another year older, deeper, and just as if not more talented across the board with a second year in the same system.

Add in another charmin soft schedule and it would be a pretty big failure to have any more than 1 loss going into a home game against OSU at the end of the year.

colonel

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:27 PM ^

I mostly agree, except I am slightly worried about the o-line. Losing Olu, Zinter, Keegan, and Hayes is a lot of turnover (if they all do go), even if there are talented guys waiting in the wings.

I also think the schedule is more difficult. Away at Penn State could be a brutally difficult matchup, and Sparty might be semi-competent again, which would make that game in East Lansing a (hopefully figurative) slugfest. Maybe Maryland finally breaks through too. And of course, there's Ohio to think about. Can't forget them. So I don't think 10 wins is anything close to as sure a thing as it was with this year's schedule.

We will have plenty of juice, and we could run the table to a B1G threepeat. It just doesn't feel as certain as the feeling with the '22 team. Everybody paying attention knew that we might drop maybe one game before heading into Columbus, and that if we slew that dragon, the sky could be the limit...

I suppose it's besides the point. Harbaugh probably still has NFL ambitions, and maybe he sees this as his best shot to lock up an NFL job before he retires. Given the speculation of the last 24 hours, I don't see how he returns in '23 without a new contract that locks him into Michigan long term. Though he might be passing up another great chance in '23, it's unclear if he wants to stay beyond that anyway. Now might be his time to go.

wolvorback

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:31 PM ^

He just needs to make up his damn mind.  If he drags this out and leaves, I will actively root against his success in the NFL.  Yes, I know that my rooting interests only have a slight impact on wins/losses, but I will do my part.  

MeanJoe07

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:34 PM ^

It's not his flirtation with the NFL that's annoying.  that's fine. Chase your dreams and get paid. It's that his doublespeak is in direct conflict with how he talks about Michigan being a family and a special place and all his promises.  It puts his character into question because you don't sabotage your special beloved family. No one forced him to say all that shit. His current job is to maximize the success of Michigan. He's not doing that. If Warde Manual wasn't such a spineless putz He'd make Harbaugh shit or get off the pot, but he's beholden to Jim because he's a "Michigan Man" and beat OSU twice in 8 years and won a single bowl game 8 years ago with Hoke's [clap, clap, clap] players. Fucking ridiculous. It's clear Michigan has no interest in joining modern day college football, NIL, etc. due to delusions of grandeur and it's "what Bo would want" or some stupid shit that literally only tired fat 70 year olds think and are too tone deaf to realize recruits don't give a flying jumping Jesus fuck about "transformational" experiences whatever that even means. Even that would be fine if they were just transparent about how they want to operate and not feed us some bullshit contrived facade of whatever this half baked nonsense is. Here is the hard truth. Football is secondary to maintaining a certain image and brand which is Michigan is an academic institution first that happens to have a football team and that team has very rich traditions that we're going to honor to a fault even if it doesn't maximize success on the field. We will not acquiesce to simply keep up with the rest of College Football. If outside entities wanna try and sprinkle in some NIL stuff that's cute and we won't stop them too much. If our Michigan Man head Coach wants to string us along that's fine. We owe it to him and will honor the Michigan Man until he makes his decision. See that's not so hard. Fan happiness (you know, paying customers) is just relative to the expectations that are set. Stanford, Northwestern, Note Dame, fans don't expect to be Bama level dynasties. Our fans do because of the way Michigan markets itself. We're wayyyyy more Stanford than Bama. Just embrace it instead of instilling false hope and high expectations.

 

 

 

 

 

NittanyFan

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:58 PM ^

The "doublespeak" is just part of the business.

99.9% of new jobs --- even at the C-suite level --- one can engage in all kinds of negotiations and discussions and the whole rest of the world is oblivious.  One doesn't have to "publicly pledge loyalty" to employer A while Adam Schefter is simultaneously tweeting about you chatting with employer B.

Harbaugh is still a high-character guy.  His given profession, however, is one where people can't switch jobs without having to play this particular game.

I married into this

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:35 PM ^

He's definitely taking calls or this would have been over by now. I do believe the most credible destination is Denver and it's mostly due to the presence of Condolezza Rice. Her presence likely gives him some comfort that this ownership group is reasonably sane. He also probably is one of the few HC's that could re-claim Russell Wilson. I do believe, regardless of who, if he's offered a job in the NFL, he'll take it. A Super Bowl is more enticing to him than a National Championship. He's a competitor and wants to compete at the highest level. That's the NFL. Oh and his brother has a ring and he doesn't. While petty, I think that bugs him more than we all think

BlueHills

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:40 PM ^

I figure people have the right to change their minds about career direction any time they feel they need to do so, without having to make explanations or excuses. I've done it myself.

There are lots of reasons minds change, money being the most obvious, or more family time, or 'Gee, I'm just feeling like I don't want to do this any more, and can't take another year of it'.

I sincerely hope Harbaugh stays; he's obviously one of the best coaches in the sport. And if he goes, I wish him well.

"But you'll still freak out, right?"

"Only if I skip my meds."

 

 

 

turtleboy

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:41 PM ^

Call me crazy, but I choose to believe what Coach said explicitly about next season, versus what people who benefit from stirring shit up have to say might potentially could theoretically happen, if maybe...

M-Dog

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:41 PM ^

Ideally, were it his intention to go back to the NFL, he'd have lined up a successor on staff and spent a year pointing to that guy.

Harbaugh has said publicly that he thinks that Sherrone Moore is ready for a head coach job.  He might mean at Michigan . . .  

colonel

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:40 PM ^

The prevailing sentiment among the faithful right now is that Moore would be the choice if Harbaugh goes. I tend to agree with this idea.

I am actually cautiously optimistic that a younger, less weird coach like Moore could be an improvement in terms of recruiting. I will believe until shown evidence otherwise that Michigan's occasionally underwhelming recruiting under Harbaugh has to do with him being a weirdo. 

Naturally, I would be worried a bit about the floor of the program faltering. Michigan just does not lose to bad teams under Harbaugh. We tend to beat them in annoyingly boring ways (how hard is it to scheme Andrel Anthony open downfield against, say, Indiana?), but we still crush them. A Harbaugh team would never drop a home game to '22 Stanford, as did one Marcus Freeman.

I do not want to give up my faith in 9+ wins a season, but rolling the dice with a more dynamic recruiter also doesn't sound so bad.

M Dude in Portlandia

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:43 PM ^

Good stuff, Seth.

Last year I was tempted to believe it was about competition (IOW Meechigan being forced to fight with one hand behind their back, NIL, transfers, etc.) this time around I don't really buy those arguments so much. My big thing was keeping this coaching staff together.

Here we go again. I love JH's vision, there is absolutely nobody I'd trust to set up the program the way he has. But ... something about time management in game and preparation for those big games at the end of the year with opponents we are unfamiliar with - and my big one of the past couple days - our record on grass vs. turf and our preparation for that - I feel like maybe it's time for a change, maybe someone else could do these things better - or at least eliminate an excuse.

JH is a great guy - I believe in him. I love him. I did not have the patience to directly tolerate the RichRod/Hoke years - but since JH has been back I've been totally all in since day 1.

He has set us up great - do what you gotta do, bud. Go on and work your legacy elsewhere if that's what you need to do. Pick a successor from this bunch - Mike Hart, Sherrone Moore - whoever you like for the job.

But, if you do stay, is it too much to ask that you seriously address the time management and grass vs. turf issues?

The Geek

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:45 PM ^

We need a committed Coach Harbaugh in Ann Arbor. This deja vu bullshit is now a cliche and I hope he leaves just so we can move on and hire someone who wants to coach at Michigan. 

It sucks that he doesn’t want to coach for his alma mater and be satisfied slapping OSU every year. 

goblue8888

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:45 PM ^

Fwiw the broncos version of Sam webb, Mike klis, has said sean Payton and harbaugh are option 1a and 1a for broncos. Also said money is no object for the broncos(richest owners in the nfl by like 5x) and that the Stanford connections are verrrrry strong. 

wetnoodle

January 3rd, 2023 at 8:21 PM ^

Maybe Hackett just sucked as a coach.  They have a good defense..good skill players and Wheatley is the RB coach currently actually

Plus the ownership has unlimited cash...I read, on Yahoo?? (or someplace) that Denver can get out of Wilsons contract after 2023 season with not as much burn..or something to that effect

JBLPSYCHED

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:53 PM ^

In the wake of reasonably credible (albeit unnamed) sources saying that Harbaugh is listening for opportunities, my inkle is that he's gone. In the meantime I'm choosing to naively take him at his word that he's actually staying and I'll remain optimistic until he declares otherwise.

To those who say that Moore or someone else on the current staff could seamlessly take over and keep the engine running, I say not so fast. They are unproven at the HC level and the Michigan job comes with inordinate pressure. Next year may go well because the current roster is in good shape but recruiting is a constant battle.

Personally I don't hold it against Harbaugh that he's looking around, that's his right and most of us professionals believe that we owe it to ourselves to consider our options rather than being completely closed to them. But IMHO Michigan football will be much stronger if Harbaugh stays compared with if we hire someone else because he leaves.

MJ14

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:55 PM ^

I can only guess some of this is Harbaugh’s agent driving up the contract offer from Michigan. Just talked to a staff member after they left today. Still recruiting the same as always and Harbaugh is telling guys he’ll be coaching Michigan. Again, I really don’t think Harbaugh is the kind to go back on his word to his staff, team, and recruits. Jim’s son liking posts is just a cherry on top for me. He’s getting a kick out of the “insiders”

M-Dog

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:56 PM ^

It takes 30 seconds to make a statement that he is staying.  So make it.

When you are in his position, you can expect to have to make these kinds of statements after the last game of the season is played.  So put it on your calendar and make the statement. 

It's part of the job, annoying or not.  There are a lot of annoying things that are part of the job that you just suck it up and do.  This is one of the easiest.

Harbaugh is not naive.  If he lets this keep dragging out, it is going to hurt recruiting and retention badly.  If he does want to stay, he is starting to sabotage himself.

Given all of that, if he won't make a statement in the next day or two, it's because he is leaving.

 

Hotel Putingrad

January 3rd, 2023 at 5:59 PM ^

I think he thought he'd be able to avoid these questions until January 10, when he intended for his season to be over, and when Black Monday would've already passed, leaving a clearer view of his options.

Still, I think the agent part is key. If Harbaugh gets his desired salary or some other as yet unknown contingency as part of his new deal, then everything settles down quickly. Jim Harbaugh is a proud man. He did what he felt was the right thing for the program by taking a pay cut and giving away his bonuses. There's something he wants for himself now in return. It's Warde's job to figure out what it is, and his agent's job to make it happen.

That being said, the program is in good shape for Moore, much better shape than what even Freeman inherited in South Bend.

Gohokego

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:09 PM ^

Maybe when he talks about college football. 2 of the last 3 losses had blatant overturns of td's in 1 score games? Maybe he's done with that shit. For someone who is as competitive to be burned multiple times by replay can change your mind on where you are?

Logan88

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:48 PM ^

I didn't follow Jim's NFL career at all, so I will ask:

Did Harbaugh get screwed over as much in the NFL by officials as he has at UM? If the answer is "no", then I completely agree that his frustration with the college game may just be the lousy officiating that he has had to endure while at UM (e.g. 2016 OSU,  2021 MSU, 2022 TCU) which have come in some VERY high profile games.

1145SoFo

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:12 PM ^

His assurances were necessary to do his job—

I wish people would stop vilifying Harbaugh over his comments - especially with the team's performance the past few years. He's a famous alum who's job requires public trust, passion and belief all the while interfacing with the media regularly. If he did believe his comments when he said them, it's not out of the ordinary nor unforgiveable if his feelings change.

If he has been intentionally lying or never convinced of his own convictions, well this simply sounds like the majority of Americans trying to advance & enjoy their careers.

Coach Harbaugh was brought here to restore UM Football and it appears he has. Even if you were fully convinced we would win championships under Jim, well, he got fairly close to that too.

steeltownblue

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:28 PM ^

I'm very grateful for what he has done, especially the past couple of years. I think he leaves the program in good shape. But, I'm ready to see him go. Whether this is an agent's contract negotiation strategy (eh, seems unlikely to me, but what do I know) or his inability to get the NFL out of his system, the football program needs some stability. Ironically, the only way for it to get stability is for Harbaugh to leave. Having this "will he/won't he"dance every year is just too demoralizing and likely disruptive, especially if it takes until after the superb owl to resolve. His departure might even help with recruiting -- having a former head coach in the NFL is not a universally bad thing. 

So, go please. Thank you for making Michigan a destination for football again and for all you did. 

Blue Highlander

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:30 PM ^

The funny thing about this stuff is that it’s never really about the money.  Give me $2 mil, and I am living comfortably forever.  What can you do with $50 mil that you can’t do with $20?

It’s about ego and perceived worth - “I must be better because I make more money” or some variation on the theme.

I’d like to think that with enough money to be comfortable, I’d focus on stuff like having the best team/teammates, and other intangibles that really make life worth living.  This would be doubly true if I were a star athlete - a guy can dream!

bronxblue

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:31 PM ^

I don't think, realistically, there's an internal candidate they'd promote.  They can get an established guy and I assume they'd do so.

I also say this with due respect for the reporters and connected people but all last year we heard about this team and that source and it mostly turned into half truths and speculation.  And even the premise of the Athletic article assumes a lot - that Harbaugh interviewed for a job, that they offered, and then that he accepted.  And yeah, if he interviews at a place and they offer of course he'd take it; he's not interviewing just to stroke his ego.  

Harbaugh is going to leave, and it may be this year.  But he's not the type of guy to cloak and dagger his way through it, and so if he said he's not going to the NFL and is telling recruits the same I'm inclined to believe his public actions over a bunch of private conversations that he's apparently having with a dozen different people who then talk to reporters in Charlotte and Denver.

jmblue

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^

I think he's genuinely conflicted.  It's not an either/or between Michigan and the NFL: he likes both of them, a lot.  I think he felt misled by the Vikings last year and when he said he was 100% committed to Michigan, he genuinely meant it - at the time.  But as great as it's been leading his alma mater to the CFP, he also still has that Super Bowl itch to scratch.  And at age 59, he may feel a sense of urgency.  But he also feels a need to honor his word, and not go back on the promises he's made here.

So we end up in a situation where insiders can argue, with justification, that he could either stay or go.

At any rate, boy, I sure wish the Niners would have pulled out that Super Bowl 10 years ago.  Harbaugh would have climbed the NFL mountain, and all that would be left would be doing the same at Michigan.

BKBlue94

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^

Seems like the solution would to be to stay one more year. Play it out with McCarthy, Edwards and co. for one more shot at a National Championship.

Know that's not ideal for recruiting, but if he lines up a great 2024 class, that at least gives a chance for the next guy not to have to start from scratch on recruiting that year. Also gives Moore or Hart or whoever may be an internal candidate one more year of experience 

jmblue

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:10 PM ^

Yeah, next year's roster would seem like a good reason for him to stay.   After all the work he's put in, it would be the chance to coach a fully-weaponized Michigan team, with an upperclass JJ,  probably the best QB he's had since Luck.  It seems like he really has a bond with JJ ("He's like I was, but better"), too.  Leaving now for the pros could leave him a twinge of regret about not making one more run with the '23 Wolverines. 

BOLEACH7

January 3rd, 2023 at 6:45 PM ^

First off he has every right to leave … but what I don’t appreciate is him lying last year saying it was a one off and he was done with the NFL … and wtf has changed so much in college football in one year that he is so horrified with it now ? … and he knew all about NIL last year and Michigans reluctance to pay for play millions … so stop with the bullshit lies … say you’ve wanted out and we thank you for your coaching time here , especially the last two unforgettable years !!!! 

AlbanyBlue

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:26 PM ^

With all this smoke, it's pretty clear that I need to modify my position on Harbaugh-to-NFL. He clearly has some kind of interest.

That said, I'd like him to stay one more year, keeping stuff together, and making another run with JJ and Donovan. But, it appears that if he has interest (and he seemingly does), then he's going to jump at the right offer now.

Now is the key phrase -- if he's going to go, I say go, and go soon. Hemming and hawing and delaying like last year hurts the program.

It wouldn't be the worst off-season to leave -- if JJ and others stay, then we'll have a boatload of talent for the new guy to work with.

HollywoodHokeHogan

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:36 PM ^

I think Harbaugh is a great coach but if the Broncos pay him as much as Belichek …that’s fucking dumb on their part.  Denver will be better next year in part because they almost could not possibly be worse given their roster; but you’re only paying 20M for SuperBowls and Harbaugh has been to one of those in his whole career.  He hasn’t coached in the NFL for almost a decade.  He’s nearly 60.  If they wanna make him the highest paid coach in the NFL, go ahead.