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On Harbaugh Watch 2023 Comment Count

Seth January 3rd, 2023 at 4:37 PM

The short version is I don't know anything. But I can't focus on UFR, and threw out a Neck Sharpies, and already updated my starts and snaps data for the year, so we might as well talk about it.

What's the evidence that Harbaugh is pursuing NFL jobs?

Credible reporters say so. Bruce Feldman reported "multiple sources close to Jim Harbaugh" believe he would take an NFL coaching job if it was offered. One source used the "done deal" phrasing.

Feldman is a guy we are pretty sure Harbaugh or at least his staff have a strong rapport with.

John U Bacon has a source who says it's serious, and has to do with frustration with college football:

Carolina Panthers beat reporters are pretty sure Harbaugh spoke with their owner.

That is more than enough smoke to take seriously. I do not believe these reporters would lie, or use sources who might lead them astray. Harbaugh is taking NFL calls.

[After THE JUMP: Evidence to the contrary, what does your heart tell you?]

What's the evidence that Harbaugh is staying at Michigan (you know, other than what he said a month ago)?

All circumstantial. The strongest one is that Harbaugh has an agent this time, and the contract he accepted after the 2020 season, which was reworked and extended last year, feels long past due for an upgrade.

Harbaugh's son is liking tweets that mock the media for reporting Harbaugh to NFL rumors.

Friend of Harbaugh Todd Anson has been critical of the media sharing the story, and while not 100% committal, believes Harbaugh would stay true to his word.

Anson also noted that last year it came out that Harbaugh had told recruits he was interesting in the NFL still, whereas this year he was telling them he plans to be at Michigan in 2023.

Kunkel's read on the situation might be a little pipe-dreamy, considering he also reported this:

Of all the reporting on this, the thing I have the hardest time believing is Jim Harbaugh told someone he feared competition.

C'mon Seth, I know you talk to people, or they talk to you. Don't you have any idea what's going to happen?

I'm as curious as anyone, but I also don't think it's worth anyone's time for me to badger people. I'm not a breaking news guy, and if I suddenly fancied myself one I'm hardly likely to become a better one than the extraordinary professionals who cover Michigan.

I thought he promised he was staying.

Here's Jim Harbaugh to Mitch Albom after flying to Minneapolis last year not expecting to be back:

“There was a tugging at me that I was once that close to a Super Bowl and I didn’t get it. Some NFL jobs came open. I was contacted by the (Minnesota) Vikings. For better or for worse, it was something I wanted to explore. I went in thinking, ‘I’m gonna have 100 percent conviction on this, and if they (Minnesota) have 100 percent conviction on this, then it’s something I’m gonna do.” …

“I called Warde (Manuel, the Michigan athletic director) and I asked him if he wanted me to be the head coach. And he said, ‘Yes, 100 percent.’ And I said, OK then. That’s what I want to do.'

“And I told him, ‘Warde, this will not be a reoccurring theme every year. This was a one-time thing.”

Here's Jim Harbaugh to Tom VanHaaren as NFL jobs started to open up last December:

"That time of the year type of speculation, but I think no man knows the future," Harbaugh said. "But I think that people that think we've done a good job and are pleased with the job that we've done here at Michigan, they're going to be very happy to learn that we will be back enthusiastically coaching the Wolverines in 2023. And for those people that don't approve of the job we've done or would rather see somebody else coaching here, I think they'll be most likely disappointed to learn we'll be back coaching the Wolverines and in 2023." …

"It's really biblical, no man knows the future. I can't make vows of what's going to happen or what's not going to happen," Harbaugh said. "If you don't mind, I ask you a question. I mean, there's tremendous coaches right here in our league: Ryan Day, Greg Schiano, Bret Bielema, Jeff Brohm. I could go on and on, P.J. Fleck.

"I think, the job that they've done, they deserve to be asked the same question."

The headline we all took from this conversation was "Will be enthusiastically coaching the Wolverines in 2023." That was enough to skip "I can't make vows" and "no man knows the future." It is a completely fair reading of this statement. It is also completely fair to read "This will not be a reoccurring theme every year. This was a one-time thing," as a promise not to slam the football program into a roadblock while he interviews for outs a second time.

What jobs are being discussed?

For the moment, the Broncos, the Panthers, and maybe the Colts. That is also the entire list of open NFL jobs at the moment, but more will open up after the Super Bowl.

Colin Cowherd reported that as of yesterday afternoon the Broncos offer is for $20 million/year for Harbaugh, which is more than twice what the average NFL coach makes, and twice what the richest NCAA coaches make. Cowherd also said Sean Payton is the #1 choice (in the whole market), and would be offered "mid-20s" IE a lot more.

People remember Harbaugh on the Colts. Harbaugh is in the Ring of Honor (and Marlin Jackson is not, which feels weird). But NFL people think that situation—with a meddlesome owner and a GM with a strong fence around his territory—is too like the 49ers.

Has Jim Harbaugh slammed the football program into a roadblock while he interviews for outs a second time?

Yes. He also can remove it at any time.

Is this going to hurt the program?

It is unless there are stronger assurances given. Since 24 hours of reporting have already elapsed without Harbaugh shooting the speculation down, it's quite clear now that last year wasn't a "one-time thing." Anyone who took Harbaugh's recommitment to Michigan last year at his word now has to doubt it. If we go through the entire NFL carousel again and get the same recommitment, nobody's going to trust it.

There is a way to end the speculation: work out out a new contract with Michigan that has the kind of buyout that secures both sides to each other. Right now that buyout is $3 million, which is nothing to an NFL team. Michigan has an equally paltry buyout if they wanted to end the relationship, which seemed wise at the time. Two years later, things are bit different.

What does Michigan do if he leaves?

I can't begin to answer that now. If they go internal, Moore is the obvious choice, but none of these guys has ever been a college head coach.

What do you think is happening?

There are two scenarios that fit the information before us.

SCENARIO 1: HARBAUGH WANTS BACK IN THE NFL

After 2020, and the subsequent contract negotiations with Michigan, it is entirely plausible that Harbaugh decided he's going to take the next NFL ladder that comes his way. There wasn't going to be one in January 2021, and in January 2022 he met with the Vikings expecting to have the job and came away empty. His assurances were necessary to do his job—after that he couldn't say "Yeah, I'm going to the next NFL team that takes me"—but pointedly did not come with a contract renegotiation that would have made those assurances more than words. As soon as the 2022 season was over, Harbaugh let his people know he's interested in NFL jobs again, and has been fielding calls. If/when one offers what he's looking for (probably a level of personnel control) he's gone.

SCENARIO 2: HARBAUGH IS RENEGOTIATING WITH AN AGENT

As I understand it, this is the first time Harbaugh's using an agent—the 2015 deal was done with Hackett at an airport bar and included things like what color the yellow has to be. The 2020 deal was just Manuel and Harbaugh. Agents know to do things like put it out there that James Franklin's name has been linked to the USC and LSU openings. If Michigan's negotiating a contract with Harbaugh's agent right now, that agent is telling Harbaugh don't deny anything. If NFL teams call to discuss their positions, and it gets reported that those teams called, and that puts pressure on Michigan to give Harbaugh whatever he desires, that's an agent's job well done. If fans have a conniption fit in the meantime, that's their problem, so long as this gets done before it damages recruiting.

Given Harbaugh left himself an out in his statement in December, and the tenor of reporting on this, and the absurdity of the numbers being thrown out there for NFL coaching jobs, I would guess it's 60% the top one.

What do you think will happen?

One aspect of this that might be playing a role is the market for football talent and the market for coaching talent are suddenly coming from the same pool. Yes, this was already true to a degree—when Alabama paid a guy named Tosh over $1 million/year it wasn't because Tosh was keeping all of it. But the way NIL is working out is donors are being diverted to collectives that in turn pay the players a salary. Those are the same donors who've often been called upon to soak up big coaching contracts (and buyouts). Michigan hasn't had any big asks lately, but nobody in college is in a position to throw insane money at the coach right now with so many new hands to feed.

Another aspect is that Harbaugh is 58 and being a college football coach is much harder, if more secure, than being an NFL coach. The older he gets the harder that gets, so long-term security is no longer top of mind. If Harbaugh's ever going to win a Super Bowl, his window to start building that team is the next five years. If he's ever going to have the leverage to demand the kind of control and trust he wants to do that, it's now. Michigan may be a favorite to win the Big Ten and return to the Playoff in 2023, but that's an extraordinarily hard thing to do even if you're good enough.

Harbaugh might also feel that he's leaving Michigan in a good place (2nd base at the very least). Ideally, were it his intention to go back to the NFL, he'd have lined up a successor on staff and spent a year pointing to that guy. Also ideally Michigan would be preparing for a national championship right now instead of huddled around waiting for coach to tell us if he wants to be here. If it turns out he does, this time I'm going to need a second source.

Comments

Blarvey

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:38 PM ^

Best of luck to Coach Harbaugh. I thought he was underachieving into 2018-2020 with no wins against OSU but he made some big changes (not always easy to do) and took the team to the next level. That is a huge credit to him, the players, and the new staff. I can't blame him for wanting to leave now for another shot at the league.

HChiti76

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:50 PM ^

The Athletic and JUB are reliable. And these “sources close to JH” wouldn’t be talking to them if JH didn’t want them to. Also, it would take two seconds to shut this all down, if JH wanted to. This is all indicative of JH leaving for the NFL. 
 
As Seth stated, I guess it’s possible that this could be following the advice of an agent to gain more leverage with U-M, but I don’t buy that for a number of reasons. First, JH & U-M just agreed upon a new extension in 2022 with pay raises, etc. JH is not under the 2020 pay cut contract. Second, he negotiated that 2022 contract without an agent, like he has done with all his previous U-M contracts. The hiring of an agent now most likely is for negotiating an NFL contract. Third, the timing of JH/agent leaking all this NFL talk to the media (and yes, allowing “sources close to you” to speak to the media is exactly this) is meant to maximize JH’s leverage and opportunities in obtaining an NFL job, one week before the rest of the coaching positions open up. 
 

For these reasons, it is clear to me JH is on his way to the NFL. 

Which is ok by me. He’s done a tremendous job rescuing this program. He will finish with back to back top 3 teams. To put that in proper perspective, in the previous 72 (!) football seasons, from 1949-2020, our beloved Michigan Wolverines football team has finished as a top 3 team only FOUR times. Under Bo in 1974, 1976, & 1985, and, of course, 1997, under Carr. Now, he’s done it the last two years. 
 

Thank you, Coach Harbaugh! Good luck in the NFL. Let’s find the right replacement. (I like Moore, FWIW) Hopefully, someone who is a little less peculiar and brings much less drama. GO BLUE!!

DC_BLUE

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:53 PM ^

Agree with others - I think harbaugh would have left if we won a national championship which he thought he would this year so he started talking, now he is in contract negotiations to see what he can get so no surprise he has not shut the door - I also think we will be fine if he leaves, Moore and others seems to be on the rise and will get HC offers elsewhere if not forthcoming here, would rather they stay 

Jkidd49

January 3rd, 2023 at 7:56 PM ^

Sorry, love all the content by this site but letting JH use "no man knows the future" to get out of anything he commits to (assuming he leaves) is bullshit and UM fans and supports deserve better than the kind of obfuscation reserved for the slimmest of politicians. 

Blau

January 3rd, 2023 at 8:07 PM ^

Agreed. It’s pretty much the equivalent of crossing your fingers behind your back. Now I don’t think he would actually use that as an excuse but it’s plausible I guess. If he does, I’m not sure how anyone in any of his professional circles can take him seriously. 

The FannMan

January 3rd, 2023 at 8:36 PM ^

To me the unasked question is: What should Warde do?  To me, he needs to put his best offer on the table and it needs to better than Tucker’s.  Then schedule a presser for Thursday and tell Jim it will either be to announce his new contract or to announce that Jim will not be Michigan’s coach. Just waiting for weeks while recruits and current players twist on the wind (with the portal calling) is not an option. 

bo_lives

January 3rd, 2023 at 9:09 PM ^

It’s not a question of what they should or should not do, it’s just what is going to happen. Warde is a passive actor who just takes the path of least resistance. And it’s clear at this point that Harbaugh and the AD don’t have a warm relationship. At the same time, nobody around the program seems all too particularly worried. So Harbaugh will court the NFL until he gets an offer, and like he said last year, he will take it if it comes. 

ih8losing

January 3rd, 2023 at 9:09 PM ^

Misery just loves company and there’s always more than one piece of bad news (JH rumors to NFL on top of losing in the CFP) right when the program seems to build some momentum for a long run. This is why it feels like we’re never going to win it all and why the loss to TCU hurt so much. Faaack 

hope Jim sticks around but this being a yearly topic will just continue to make it easy to recruit negatively against Michigan. Ugh

m83econ

January 3rd, 2023 at 9:42 PM ^

Pursuing an NFL or listening to interest from NFL teams?  I've seen reports that Harbaugh would accept the right job if offered, but he won't go through the interview process.  How does that work given the Rooney rule?

Aristotle

January 3rd, 2023 at 10:02 PM ^

"For the moment, the Broncos, the Panthers, and maybe the Colts. That is also the entire list of open NFL jobs at the moment, but more will open up after the Super Bowl."

 

 

More will open up next Monday assuming the league resumes play this weekend after the health incident in Cincinnati. Arizona, Houston, and possibly Cleveland may be in play.

CaliforniaNobody

January 3rd, 2023 at 10:37 PM ^

Sigh, disappointing. If he does move on I'll be really conflicted as it'd mean he full on lied on multiple occasions, as much as I love the guy. And Moore is absolutely who I'd want. 

BornInA2

January 3rd, 2023 at 11:09 PM ^

“And I told him, ‘Warde, this will not be a reoccurring theme every year. This was a one-time thing.”

That quote, IMO, is the one quote that rules them all. It also seems to have been a lie, as here we are again.

Even if it's a tasteless, unaccountable game that his agent is playing (despite ample info otherwise), it still makes his statement last year a lie.

Jury is still out with me at the moment, but leaning hard to "GTFO, Jim. We're tired of this."

bo_lives

January 3rd, 2023 at 11:25 PM ^

Yes, let’s tell the architect of the best 2-year stretch of Michigan football in 50, maybe 75 years, to GTFO. When the prodigal son returns you to the promised land it’s definitely time to send him packing.

Maybe the idiots around here stanning for Warde Manuel can convince him to fill in as coach, since I’m told it’s actually Warde who is responsible for Michigan’s success these last two years.

For the record, I do know a personal friend of Harbaugh’s who has said for the last 2 years that Harbaugh is still peeved about the 2020 pay cut and doesn’t think Warde appreciates him. It would appear most people around here share that sentiment.

MJ14

January 3rd, 2023 at 11:43 PM ^

That’s all I’ve got folks. Standing down on the JJH rumor situation for now. Even dispelling the rumor until someone has actual facts feeds the Twitter spasm & creates clicks for dastardly writers. Promise you Feldman & Auerbach do not have “two sources” here.

— Todd J. Anson (@TJA4Michigan) January 3, 2023

You get “Free Clicks” at our UM program’s expense for spreading unsubstantiated garage like this, so forgive me for calling BS on you. #NothingBurger. Nicole, you know better- check your sources closer. https://t.co/JQVyf8baik

— Todd J. Anson (@TJA4Michigan) January 2, 2023

MJ14

January 3rd, 2023 at 11:49 PM ^

Seth I’m surprised you didn’t post the first tweet by Anson there. Straight up calling Feldman out for BS and telling them to name the source. Henson seems to agree with Anson. Not sure how I feel about Henson, but usually he’s one to throw out ifs, buts, possibilities, and maybes so for him to say 95% sure means he’s standing behind it. 

Anyways everything Anson is saying falls right in line with what I’ve heard directly from a staff member. 

bo_lives

January 4th, 2023 at 12:00 AM ^

So the multiple people from the Panthers community are just lying too, along with the Michigan folks? Even if they were, why wouldn’t Harbaugh come out and deny the rumors? Last year people also tried to downplay the evidence, even as Harbaugh’s plane was landing in Minneapolis. Then Harbaugh came right out and said he would have taken the Vikings job if offered. I also have a source close to Harbaugh who has been saying for weeks that Harbaugh has been leaning toward the NFL. I thought it was ridiculous but I’ve done a 180. I would be shocked (but obviously thrilled) if Harbaugh stays.

MJ14

January 4th, 2023 at 8:47 AM ^

Who’s your source then? Jim had a lunch with Irsay as a courtesy to him, never planned to take the Colts job. More of a social lunch. And yes he did talk to the Panthers owner, but as reported it wasn’t an interview. I don’t see any problem with Jim talking to the owner, professional courtesy is still a thing. Also if your guy has been saying for weeks that Harbaugh wanted to go to the NFL, I can definitely say your guy knows nothing. 

bo_lives

January 3rd, 2023 at 11:52 PM ^

Great lengthy write up from Seth as usual, but what shocks me most is the relative apathy of it all. I was incredulous last year, this year I’m at a loss for words. And yet other people on this board are blaming Harbaugh and making serious arguments claiming Warde fucking Manuel is partly responsible for the sudden success of the last 2 years.

Being in my mid 30s I didn’t think I was old for this board, but it’s as if nobody remembers anything before 2015. Coaching searches are fucking hard, and if you miss you will spend a decade in the wilderness before getting back on your feet. I like Sherron Moore, but he is young and Warde is just rolling the dice if that’s the backup plan.

outsidethebox

January 4th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^

Michigan football is in a very good, strong position. Today the roster is very solid and, most importantly, there is an elite set of assistant coaches on staff. 

DiploMan

January 4th, 2023 at 3:00 PM ^

There is no way for me to read through every one of the 1000s of comments already posted on this topic in the past few days, but in the unlikely event that no one has said this already:  I think it is long past time that the Michigan fanbase gets used to the fact that perennial NFL speculation is a feature – not a bug – in Harbaugh’s professional persona.  The guy was a successful NFL coach in the past, so it defies reason to think there would ever be a 0% chance he might decide to return there.  There is nothing he could do or say that will stop the NFL beat “journalists” from tweeting about what they heard from “sources” who are “close” to Jim Harbaugh.  Harbaugh himself made a statement just last month that already nobody believes (and the only unequivocal statement he has made is that he won’t make unequivocal statements).  Contracts can get re-negotiated; buyouts can get bought out.  He could get a block M tattooed on his forehead and it wouldn’t surprise anyone to see him wearing it proudly on an NFL sideline the next fall.

Lastly, consider the evidence we already have:  the last two off-seasons, with peak NFL speculation, were followed by the two best seasons in the last 24 years.  It’s a feature, not a bug – enjoy it!