Mr. T’s identity revealed?
https://x.com/b1g_ryan/status/1725569078520119379?s=46&t=zWP_jhKwEyS4iClKYT0_gg
Tim Smith is the booster for Michigan. He’s done as a booster and I think Michigan already removed his name from the site
November 17th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
Halfway expected it to be Ted Tmartin
November 17th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^
Guys it's obviously Tom Brady
November 17th, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^
I pity the fool that does not give Laurence Tureaud a word on this
November 17th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
Funny how it's the OSU guys who seem to know all the information eh?
November 17th, 2023 at 1:38 PM ^
Except for knowing how to stop Michigan’s run game in the 4th Q, I’d say, yeah. They know all the information.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:55 PM ^
You win the internet today. LOL
November 17th, 2023 at 2:07 PM ^
Well, in fairness to them, it was ONLY five plays.....
November 17th, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^
winner
November 17th, 2023 at 1:38 PM ^
Their investigators had a headstart. (Not sure if all the way to third base.)
November 17th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
At this point, they know more about our team than our team does. We love and support our team, but their lives revolve around their team. Are we really surprised that they would’ve hired a private investigator? They would do anything to take the momentum back in the rivalry.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:24 PM ^
If you ever lurk OSU forums, you'll see their lives completely revolve around something called "TTUN"
November 17th, 2023 at 1:32 PM ^
I’ll just say it, I pity that fool.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:34 PM ^
Someone had to do this.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:35 PM ^
Thank you for that. Needed the laugh today
November 17th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^
There’s a part of me that is sad Uncle T was not Mr. T
November 17th, 2023 at 1:33 PM ^
I was guessing Toby Flenderson.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:36 PM ^
I’ll say it again today. Michigan has no insiders. This program is surrounded grifters who have no useful connections when push comes to shove. Almost everything they’ve tucked behind their paywalls has been misinformation they were fed by their “sources” or fan fiction they wrote when their digging came up empty.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^
I trust Sam Webb and no one else.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^
I lost a fair bit of respect for Sam when he went on his personal jihad against Ryan Day. In the first place, it isn't particularly relevant where the information came from; he should be concerned with whether Michigan was breaking any rules, and if so, what the impact was and what the potential punishments might be. But more importantly, there simply isn't direct evidence proving that Ryan Day had any part in this. He told so many people, using highly emotional and inflammatory language, that Ryan Day personally hired a PI firm, suggested that the firm used illegal means to search Michigan's computers, and was orchestrating the release of information to make Michigan look bad, when there was never any proof for any of that. It's now looking like most of that was completely delusional on his part, and that the initial report to the NCAA probably came from U.S. Integrity, a firm that the NCAA pays to look for anything related to gambling (point shaving, etc.). As to why U.S. Integrity might have wanted to take a look: from the time Harbaugh was hired until the end of the Covid season, Michigan was about .470 Against the spread (ATS). Since then, Michigan is around .740 ATS. Hall of Fame level coaches can sustain maybe .530 or .540. So while it's true that Michigan might have just made an absolutely monstrously huge jump in quality, and bookmakers haven't caught up yet and continue to set the lines too low, it's also possible that something fishy is going on, and that's what U.S. Integrity gets paid by the NCAA to look into. Note that they may well have found zero evidence that anything related to gambling was going on-- we don't know one way or the other-- if they did find evidence of what could potentially be an against-the-rules operation that was helping Michigan, they certainly would have reported that.
To the extent that all this is just fans being depressingly (albeit predictably) tribal and yapping at each other on message boards, Sam's reporting doesn't matter. But I genuinely believe that his position and reputation, along with his strident, aggrieved tone, could very well have led someone to take action against Day or his family. The worst-case scenario would be some whacko with a gun, but a more reasonable scenario would be something like a hacker stealing the identify of some of his relatives, which is a crime with a sickening, painful, prolonged recovery process for the victim. Sam was just one short step shy of standing on top of a horse-drawn wagon with a torch in one hand and a pitchfork in the other, yelling to the villagers that Ryan Day is a witch that has cursed the town, and that he needs to be burned at the stake in order for the drought to end.
But up until this incident, I agree that he has been among the most accurate "Insiders" that I know of. He always puts a pro-Michigan spin on things, but that's normal and expected of any fan site, and he seemed to have a good feel for where the line was between "spin" and "lying".
November 17th, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^
Of all the ridiculous pearl clutching in this, your "worst case scenario" (debatable, btw) is superlative. Well done!
November 17th, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^
You must be a buckeye. Only the buckeyes go on and on about US Integrity.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:30 PM ^
Look at his previous comments. Clearly a Buckeye.
That and his accepting uncritically the claims of OSU propagandists is telling.
Andrew is a schmuck.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^
On one of the previous threads he said that Stalions was seen on the sidelines talking with coordinators (more than once). So he doesn’t understand the rules, and apparently is a windbag too.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:13 PM ^
This is the first I’ve heard of an initial report with US Integrity. Can you point me in the direction of evidence or proof of this?
November 17th, 2023 at 2:32 PM ^
US Integrity was mentioned in the Petitti letter as someone that he consulted with early on about how to handle the information the NCAA gave him that Michigan might be cheating. Various message boards have been doing Q-Anon level analysis of the letter and have convinced themselves that USI is the original firm that did the investigation and that Pettiti put their name in to warn Michigan that if they didn't knock it off, their illegal gambling ring would be exposed for all to see.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:36 PM ^
If there were concerns over illegal gambling the FBI would be involved, not some random agency. No evidence whatsoever that the FBI is sniffing around.
Looks like weak Buckeye attempt at deflecting accusations of Day hiring a firm to investigate Michigan.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:48 PM ^
Not to mention there wouldn’t be a Vegas line on Michigan’s games until the investigation was complete.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
Yes, absolutely. If you read the letter to get the context of the name drop, it's when Petitti is laying out the timeline of the Big Ten's involvement and why they felt like they had to take action. USI appears to have told them that the best way to avoid having a gambling scandal was to let it be known that the Big Ten warned MSU and that Michigan was under NCAA investigation.
That Pettiti's first thought was "how will information asymmetry affect gamblers" and not anything to do with player safety or competitive fairness is interesting, but probably not terribly relevant beyond providing more evidence that he's the wrong guy for the job.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:15 PM ^
When you have a worst to first year, you are going to beat the spread a lot. I made money betting Michigan because that first year after covid because the improvement was obvious to people paying close attention.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:25 PM ^
But I genuinely believe that his position and reputation, along with his strident, aggrieved tone, could very well have led someone to take action against Day or his family. The worst-case scenario would be some whacko with a gun, but a more reasonable scenario would be something like a hacker stealing the identify of some of his relatives, which is a crime with a sickening, painful, prolonged recovery process for the victim. Sam was just one short step shy of standing on top of a horse-drawn wagon with a torch in one hand and a pitchfork in the other, yelling to the villagers that Ryan Day is a witch that has cursed the town, and that he needs to be burned at the stake in order for the drought to end.
Just a tad overwrought, eh Andrew? But I would have no problem if we reached a point where all parties agreed to tone it down. But fuck that if what we really achieve is unilateral disarmament. I'm done playing Charlie Brown to everyone else's Lucy. You want us to be civil? Then please advise East Lansing and Columbus that decency on our part requires reciprocity.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:27 PM ^
Where is the proof that the NCAA hired this agency?( which oddly does what federal agencies are assigned to do.)
We still don’t know how they gained access to the hard drive nor how it is that OSU sites keep getting bits of information before anyone else. How is it that OSU insiders know what is happening with investigations pertaining to Michigan?
You are repeating without thought the narrative OSU has put out there.
Ryan Day may or may not be connected to this firm, but someone at OSU almost certainly is as we are seeing with these leaks.
November 17th, 2023 at 3:16 PM ^
Sam may have a bone to pick with Ryan Day after he made a disparaging comment about Sam’s show in 2021 after The Game.
November 17th, 2023 at 9:49 PM ^
lol, all the conspiracies about Michigan and gambling relies on Michigan beating the spread. I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. Can't control if they win or lose but they can control how much they win by? Alright.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:41 PM ^
I'll add John U as well.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^
How the hell are the national reporters and buckeye people all getting better and more accurate info than the so called Michigan insiders?
Totally agree..all grifters and bullshit artists. Oh they will get one right here or there but they have been dead wrong on 95 % of this fiasco
November 17th, 2023 at 1:59 PM ^
I do think a lot of Buckeye insiders are wrong on stuff (some of the conspiracy theories around Weiss and other coaches have been wildly off), but if there's someone at the NCAA feeding a couple of them info then insiders aren't going to know about that. Hell, Thamel and co. knew about the suspension before the University apparently did. That's not something an insider is going to have access to.
I agree that basically all the message boards are good for player-level info (e.g. injuries, vibes, etc.) but not much else.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:24 PM ^
They are for sure off-all have to do is look a few posts above where someone is repeating a buckeye "rumor" of betting
November 17th, 2023 at 1:49 PM ^
Bingo we have a winner!
November 17th, 2023 at 1:57 PM ^
I bet you Chris Partridge news hit UM suddenly. No way Ono would have said all that if he knew this. I have been pretty pissed with UM admin until this news broke. So, no surprise insiders didn't know either. But I generally just listen to Sam or JUB.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:02 PM ^
Yeah I’ve been sorta thinking that if one of the insiders nails this whole thing then I’ll sign up for their site. But since they haven’t, and most of the info is from this sit anyway it seems there is no point
November 17th, 2023 at 1:36 PM ^
Getting ready to face my friends at rival schools. Better keep winning
November 17th, 2023 at 1:44 PM ^
We beat them on the field...and really..MSU, Ohio, or Penn State is going to preach to us about ethics?
November 17th, 2023 at 2:19 PM ^
They'll certainly try, considering you can take a college course on ethics from one Urban T. Meyer (the 'T' stands for 'Fuck Urban Meyer').
November 17th, 2023 at 1:36 PM ^
I don't know how anyone has the energy to care anymore, but bravo
November 17th, 2023 at 1:45 PM ^
At this point, all I care about are the players and winning the games. I’m not saying everyone on the coaching staff and administration are bad people but I can’t get behind the adults who continue to bury their heads in the sand and then complain they have something in their eye.
These are very much self-inflicted wounds and if it ends up hurting the team, we’ll likely have our own mob to worry about.
November 17th, 2023 at 1:36 PM ^
Wow, surprise, surprise, Bucknuts all over this.
Well, guess what Bucknuts: UM is going to play your team in about 8 days. And they're going to score and score and score until the game is done.
November 17th, 2023 at 2:24 PM ^
Does he have enough gold chains? I think he needs more gold chains.