PSU sign stealers were watching us today
This may not be thread worthy but did anyone else notice that anytime we would look over and audible on offense, the entire PSU defense would look at their bench and get a new signal? It was THE EXACT same sequence of events that Connor did for us. Their guys in different color shirts would watch our sideline audible, then signal to their defense once they saw our signs.
Whether they were right or not I’m not sure. But I hope some video comes out of them doing that because that’s literally one of the pieces of “evidence” the B10 has against us is CS standing by coaches, watching the opposite sideline, and signaling.
I also noticed our team on defense almost never looked to our sideline when PSU offense audibled. Hopefully someone other than CS is working on signs (the “legal” way) for OSU cuz that could be a disadvantage for us.
Either way I’m so proud of the team and the great win today! GO BLUE! BET!
November 11th, 2023 at 6:39 PM ^
ESPN headline next to our score just said
”Michigan 30 pt+ streak snapped, gave up the most points all this season (15)”
Is Joey Galloway working the ticker headlines now? These guys arent even subtle now.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
Screw ESPN, Fuck off OSU and OSU sycophants, Screw Thamel, Screw Pettiti, Fuck off Big Ten whiners, To Hell with Notre Dame
Beat Maryland
November 11th, 2023 at 7:09 PM ^
you know, even though i think next week will be an emotional letdown after all the adversity of the last few weeks; i kind of feel sorry for what Michigan is going to do to Maryland.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:25 PM ^
I don’t. Terps volunteered to be there. Rational decision on their part. Crush their souls.
November 11th, 2023 at 11:07 PM ^
No - no let down next week
that is for win1,000
November 11th, 2023 at 11:09 PM ^
Can’t forget the Fighting Irish.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:44 PM ^
TBF, that is kind of an awesome headline to have in Week 10.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:45 PM ^
Odd things happen to blowout records when you play top 10 teams on the road.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:50 PM ^
Without your head coach.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:51 PM ^
3rd Qtr season shutout still in tact!
November 11th, 2023 at 7:09 PM ^
But not for Penn State 🤣
November 11th, 2023 at 7:44 PM ^
Can't fucking win...
Michigan hasn't played anyone...
Play a top ten team, on the road, without your head coach, mounting odds against you, win 24-15
Pissh, you can't even score 30 points?? You suck....
November 11th, 2023 at 8:57 PM ^
“Jesus Christ Cannot Swim!”
~Ancient Roman Empire Newspaper, probably
November 12th, 2023 at 7:11 AM ^
Underrated comment. +1
November 11th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^
It’s only illegal if Michigan does it.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:41 PM ^
Our signs were pretty easy. Hold up a sign that says "We're going to run. Deal with it". It didn't help them.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:58 PM ^
Ha ha ha..exactly. Here. Steal this 30 run plays in a row. It is like they were making a point. Stealing signs, which is legal, and executing them appropriately are two different things.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:23 PM ^
And yet we scored touchdowns on 2 of those runs. Domination!
November 12th, 2023 at 2:04 AM ^
2nd half inside my head, I kept hearing The Beatles, 'Here Comes fhe RUN'...and it was alright, just as the song said! Can't imagine a better boa constrictor than to line it up and run the damn ball. About the only thing better would have been Sherrone yelling to JJ, 'RUN', for all to hear.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:42 PM ^
literally one of the pieces of “evidence” the B10 has against us is CS standing by coaches, watching the opposite sideline, and signaling
This is not true. The CS "evidence" is ticket purchases to football games, which is enough evidence to convince the B1G that buying tickets is a violation of its sportsmanship rules (100k+ PSU fans doing so notwithstanding).
November 11th, 2023 at 6:45 PM ^
I said ONE of the pieces of “evidence”. Our response letter to them talked about this.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:00 PM ^
B1G is full of shit even though they mentioned that he was next to the coach. What if he was generous and bought tickets for people. This is what is called "circumstantial bullshit" per every law and order episode I have seen.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:10 PM ^
As Petitti made clear in his letter to Manuel, this isn't a court of law or even an episode of Law and Order. It's his conference and evidence is whatever he says it is:
Neither the Conference Handbook nor the Sportsmanship Policy defines “evidence” or requires that the Commissioner rely on any specific form of evidence in order to make a determination. And the Policy certainly does not require that any such evidence meet the legal standards for admissibility at trial, as the University contends in its response. To the contrary, Section 10.2.1 of Policy expressly provides that, in determining whether an offensive action occurred, the Commissioner may consider “any evidence that he or she deems relevant,” and “may accept any information provided by any source.”
November 11th, 2023 at 7:30 PM ^
Wow, this is my first time seeing this. What an absolute load of horseshit
November 11th, 2023 at 7:48 PM ^
I don't think it's horse shit. I think it's totally true and not even that unreasonable. It's not a court of law. When the bylaws were written, people probably didn't figure the conference would railroad one of its own teams.
Besides, is there anyone who really believes that CS wasn't buying tickets and having people videotape the sidelines? We all understand this happened.
Was it technically a violation of the NCAA rules? We haven't conceded that point.
But the Big Ten isn't saying it violated the NCAA rule, they're saying it violated the Big Ten sportsmanship policy (yet somehow what OSU/Rutgers/Purdue did does not violate the policy, go figure).
And they're saying that despite it being under NCAA investigation, they can still add on a penalty right now without waiting for the NCAA to finish its investigation (we argued otherwise).
And they're saying that Harbaugh is not a person but a collective entity.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:56 PM ^
And this is exactly why we have to leave the conference. The commissioner has shown he will punish us because the 13 other conference members are petty, envious, and dishonest.
If we submit evidence that teams colluded against us last season, he’s going to tell us to pound sand because the other 13 schools sign his check. We have no recourse to a court of law or basic principles of fairness. The conference laws give the commissioner authority to screw us over and that’s what he’s doing.
It’s time to leave (after winning the BTCG).
November 11th, 2023 at 8:02 PM ^
Definitely open to leaving the B1G but not at all costs. It has to be a good situation. I'd say we're definitely exploring it at this point.
As for our recourse, we'll see if we win our lawsuit. I'm not quite sure what we win, though, since we can't go back in time and have Harbaugh coach these games.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:35 PM ^
Sorry, I disagree. Do you stay with an abusive spouse because they make 1MM a year? Yea I’m not saying go be dirt poor or something, but I’d be fine if our payout was less. Whatever - some things are worth more than money.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:22 PM ^
Can we be like the WWE and take the Big Ten Championship onto the SEC Network the next night?
November 11th, 2023 at 11:08 PM ^
The Borg? Isn’t that against Sportsmanship rules?
November 11th, 2023 at 8:05 PM ^
Truly unbelievable and UM seriously needs to consider other options if he’s trying to be like this. I fully believe due process will play out and he’ll be removed for abuse of power but got dang this is infuriating. And everyone else is cheering loudly for it. Have I lost MY mind?
November 11th, 2023 at 9:27 PM ^
He’s just a figurehead doing the bidding of OSU and others. He’s not the problem. It’s the other schools, OSU included. I can’t say what Delaney and Warren would do in this situation, but given that we have a commissioner who will not stand up for us and a bunch of others colluding against us, I would not want to stay in the big ten even if TP were out. Need to leave.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:51 PM ^
They absolutely cited in their letter of proof of our illegal activity that CS was on the sidelines talking to coaches.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:55 PM ^
And, I don't think they provided evidence that he bought the tickets.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:12 PM ^
My bad, I looked, and that was among the evidence. There was so little evidence, I assumed that wasn't part of it.
Also, mgoblog went down for the first time today, and I thought, "oh no, what happened now"
November 11th, 2023 at 7:18 PM ^
Christopher Day tripped a trigger. He's been snooping around here trying to find out what evidence they need to destroy and it's set up so when his IP is detected the blog goes down.
That's what unnamed sources tell me, anyway.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:07 PM ^
Yea, apparently Venmo - which, if he had public turned on, he’s dumber than we thought (IF he did anything, we still can’t tell except someone’s word).
November 11th, 2023 at 7:05 PM ^
If he was on the side line how could he also have been at the other stadiums?
November 11th, 2023 at 7:52 PM ^
Grumbler, read the B1G’s letter announcing the illegal (as in contract law, certainly not criminal) suspension. They very explicitly called out UM’s bench during games as part of the reasoning for the suspension. Exactly what the OP is comparing.
that and ticket purchases, which is most definitely not against any rule.
oh, and player safety where the letter says players are in danger if Michigan steals signs, but not if other teams do it.
November 12th, 2023 at 3:16 PM ^
I don't understand all the comments about what Stalions was saying to Minter on the sidelines. It could have been anything. Perhaps he was asking about dinner plans or how close he was parked to the stadium. My best guess is he was asking if Minter's vacuum cleaner needed repairing.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:43 PM ^
Not that it could have been very hard.
"SIGN: Run right!"
"SIGN: Run left!"
"SIGN: Run right ... no, left again!"
November 11th, 2023 at 6:45 PM ^
What? Sign stealing is legal.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:52 PM ^
I fucking hate your avatar. Take a +1 ya bastard!
November 11th, 2023 at 6:55 PM ^
I tried to kill it.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:59 PM ^
I am a peaceful, animal loving person. I tried to make it fly away.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:36 PM ^
I try not to kill bugs except for mosquitoes who are blood sucking assholes.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:57 PM ^
Damn. Fooled me too. I tried to kill your avatar!
November 11th, 2023 at 6:46 PM ^
Ummmm, this is what every team on earth does. Offense audibles, defense goes to one of their checks.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:54 PM ^
This. To spell out what's implied here, the defense can't signal in a new play until after it's clear the offense has completed its signal, for a couple of reasons. One is that you don't want defenders to start show the new D prematurely. Second is the D coordinator may need to make a judgment about whether the O really did change its play, or is re-signaling the same play in an effort to dummy the defense out of a look it doesn't like. I'm sure there are other possibilities too. In any event, the fact that a person near the coordinator is watching the other team signal and then maybe change position does not necessarily show that signals have decoded; there are other possibilities.
November 11th, 2023 at 6:57 PM ^
yeah i was going to reply the same. thats just modern football, checking boards and hand signals (and often decoys) from the line for each position group. its done every game, both sides of ball