Rich Eisen asked an NFL Network guy what the NFL thought of sign-gate

Submitted by TCW on April 16th, 2024 at 8:04 AM

Rich Eisen had Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network on and asked him what the NFL thought of the whole story.  "Nobody in the NFL cares."  "I've watched them play, and I've watched them physically beat the snot out of everybody up front."  "I don't think there's some piece of information that's the reason why Aiden Hutchinson just put the Ohio State tackle on his backside.  I don't see the connection there."  "They have a bunch of NFL players, they're big, they're strong, they're physical, and they beat people up."  

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/v30gfDyg6cY?si=7hox5L9K4OM7BYEf

I posted this yesterday at the end of the thread that asked whether sign-gate would impact the draft stock of Michigan's players, but I don't think many people saw it, so I wanted to re-post in a separate thread.

Fishbulb

April 16th, 2024 at 8:19 AM ^

“It’s easy for short-armed, padded his stats against scrub teams, and future draft bust Aiden Hutchinson to dominate a guy when he knows what play is coming.” —RCMB, 11W

brad

April 16th, 2024 at 8:20 AM ^

It's level headed reason-talkers like this who can help the otherwise hopeless masses at eleven warriors (RCMB is not salvageable) get past the pointless sign stealing topic, but will they listen?  Doubtful.

Perkis-Size Me

April 16th, 2024 at 8:30 AM ^

Of course they're not going to listen. They haven't by now so what indication is there at all that they ever will? MSU and OSU fans will take Sign-Gate to the grave that this will be the biggest scandal in college sports history, and there is nothing you, I or anyone can do to dissuade them from that. To them, Sign-Gate is all they have left to cling to that can keep them away from the reality that Michigan actually won it all. It's a coping mechanism and nothing more, particularly for OSU fans who have been coddled for two decades and never knew anything but winning. To them, there had to be SOME OTHER REASON Michigan won these past few years. They couldn't possibly have been better than OSU because they'd never seen it before. 

To them, cheating was the only way Michigan could've gotten the better of them. Saying that to themselves makes them feel better and allows them to keep living in the 2000 - 2019 world they came from where Michigan couldn't stop getting in its own way. 

Everyone else has seemed to accept reality and moved on with their life. If they want to cling to "ARGH CONNER STALLIONS VAST NETWORK CHEATERS CHEATERS CHEATERS" for dear life and hope that somehow anything comes out of it, then that is their cross to bear. 

No one except them cares anymore. 

mGrowOld

April 16th, 2024 at 8:49 AM ^

In fairness to the delusional idiots at 11 Warriors & RCMB having the B1G commissioner suspend Harbaugh immediately after the mean girls teleconference with no due cause and then describe the situation as the worst scandal in the history of the conference didnt help matters any.

In the words of the late, great David Bowie, he was "putting out the fire with gasoline"

Romeo50

April 16th, 2024 at 9:24 AM ^

Love the mean girls reference. Poignant.
It seems Tony is at odds with the NCAA commissioner who actually watched a game or two. 
I am still in awe of Sherrone not bending to Manny’s aggression and going all hulk, smash, 32 straight times. Strange how the clock moves right along during that. 
Did Jim cheat his way to a Super Bowl too? Did he whip Pete Carrol using Stanford nerds? Must’ve been cheating in both instances. 

dragonchild

April 16th, 2024 at 10:33 AM ^

It's tempting to dismiss them but there are serious psychological problems in anyone who takes sports so seriously that they resort to delusion as a coping mechanism.

I mean, I can get pretty worked up about sports, but I make distinctions between when Michigan punches itself in the face, gets beat by a clearly superior team, or gets robbed.  I get upset when they lose, but in the end, I move on.

But when someone feels unhinged, mouth-frothing rage over some 20-year-olds they've never met wearing shirts of one color beating 20-year-olds they've never met wearing shirts of a different color in a competition. . . that's frighteningly poor impulse control, and that's not a nice thing to be around in many situations.  Like, what if one of these wackos (of which there are thousands) is coaching your kid's team?  Or any kids' team?

DrAwkward

April 16th, 2024 at 8:29 AM ^

There's really only one way to convince the smooth brain 11W fans who still believe the idiotic sign-gate narrative: beat them again and again and again. And again.

mGo Go Gadget Play

April 16th, 2024 at 8:31 AM ^

It won't impact the draft stock of players. It won't directly impact any games. No more suspensions are coming that will directly impact the games.

Here's what lives on: 

  1. Narratives. For as long as we remember that Jim McElwain has a special relationship with seafood, people will bring SignGate up in message boards and broadcasts.
  2. Legacy. There will be an idiot 1% who will always claim the championship is tarnished, but they will get quieter quickly. Anyone whining that OBJ giving Justin Jefferson a $2000 handshake tarnishes LSU's 2019 Natty is doing so quietly, with no one else listening. Also, lots of sports documentaries coming up. 
  3. Headspace. Any narrative that gets loud enough could potentially impact a player or coach. Our team has shown remarkable resilience; long may that continue.
  4. Hiring. Everyone's getting vetted, which is probably net positive, but it takes time, which can have bad effects.
  5. Chris Partridge will likely never coach in college again. I hope he crushes it as the Seahawks OLB coach and uses that as a springboard to even bigger things.

WestQuad

April 16th, 2024 at 8:49 AM ^

I didn't know that Partridge landed with the Seahawks (or perhaps forgot.)  Good for him.  He didn't really overlap with McDonald, so it is good to see that he was taken care of.  

I'm curious why you don't think he'll ever coach in college again.  My understanding is that he was coaching players on how to answer questions in the investigation.  This may be naive, but the reports sounded more like he was giving them media training than actually trying to cover anything up. His actions seemed very minor, but the timing and optics were really bad.  Michigan was getting ready to go to war with the B1G and his "helpfulness" knee-capped the whole effort.  Hopefully he sticks in the NFL, but in 3 years no one will remember or care about his transgressions.

lhglrkwg

April 16th, 2024 at 9:01 AM ^

Of course none of them care. The idea that the NFL would somehow uphold NCAA sanctions was pure internet conspiracy fever dream. No one in the NFL cares what Stallions did

Romeo50

April 16th, 2024 at 9:14 AM ^

Whew! I need a cigarette. I don’t even smoke.

 I hope no buckeyes or Sparties were listening. Might dry up their spittle and frothing.

jmblue

April 16th, 2024 at 12:08 PM ^

I feel that this is still missing the larger point, which is that sign-stealing isn’t against the rules.

The alleged infraction relates to in-person scouting, which exists as a rule for financial reasons and not due to any perceived competitive advantage. 

ixcuincle

April 16th, 2024 at 12:13 PM ^

nobody cares about sign gate or the burger issue (of which Michigan was just penalized--so unfairly!) 

I'm still laughing at the media saying that nobody would hire Harbaugh because the sign-gate was such a big issue. Way to overinflate it 

Ihatebux

April 16th, 2024 at 12:37 PM ^

I don't think anybody other than Buckeyes and Sparties care about signgate.   Even Bama and Washington fans know their teams just got their butts kicked.