Per Chris Balas - Kansas Rumored to Have Offered 2 Year $4M NIL Deal to Hunter Dickinson

Submitted by Maizinator on April 20th, 2023 at 4:55 PM

Balas posted the rumor to the ON3 message board so no story link provided.   

If true, that's certainly a large sum of money offered.  It was further commented that it would be unlikely for Michigan to compete with it.

Hunter is apparently still visiting Kentucky, so who knows what they offer there.

Interesting times.

MadGatter

April 20th, 2023 at 7:52 PM ^

I have no doubt that Kansas is going to lob a fat stack at him. I just don't trust Chris Balas based on his previous reporting and my perceived value of Hunter compared to the rest of cbb. 

Like that one kid from Miami (Nigel Pack) was rumored to get 800k go there and he was a damn good player before he transferred. Id wager Hunter would be in the similar ballpark

CityOfKlompton

April 20th, 2023 at 6:55 PM ^

I'm just saying that none of us really have any credible insight I to what players are getting via NIL. It's an incredibly murky "marketplace" that is severely lacking in transparency.

Making any claims about what players definitely are or aren't making is about as accurate as forecasting who'll win the Heisman and national championship in the year 2052.

massblue

April 20th, 2023 at 7:37 PM ^

My institution has a few modest NIL programs.  While I am no longer on the athletic committee, my understanding is that the reported figures are normally the best-case scenarios. For example, one of our players reportedly signed a NIL deal where the payments to him would depend on the number of social followers, appearances around important events (assuming the team makes it to those events), etc.  The deal does not and cannot include any performance incentive.

maddog5

April 20th, 2023 at 8:22 PM ^

Yes, to celebrate it as capitalism is naive as hell, when it's not supposed to be payment--that issue neatly set aside in the excitement--and when most players make zero. It's profoundly unequal, obviously, to the point of absurdity, lacking in transparency or accountability, but a certain kind of fan only seems to want his school to bring lots of money to bear, puffs himself up on the idea that his school is somehow going to whip up on everyone else and feels wounded, as with everything, at the very possibility that it doesn't. When Kansas, "blue blood," reputed to be crooked AF for years, creams everybody. . . Why people like or accept this is a little beyond me. This time, Michigan will be the subject of such ritual humiliation as HD moves on, and some particularly low IQ types will later take all of this as proof that Juwan isn't as strong a coach as Bill Self. None of it stands up to rigorous scrutiny, but it does make everyone more and more comfortable with the idea of players as commodities. . . which in turn makes it easier to scream at them or hate on 'em when they wound us--deeply, deeply, as we've got little else connecting us to anything and this, at this stage of decay, is the American social arena--by not winning each and every game. The idea that kids play the game they love for their school. . . pretty tortured at this stage. It's all kinda creepy.

Pressure's definitely gonna be on Hunter, though; we can look forward to the crap he's going to catch when (if) he fails to live up to expectations; might be hellacious. I'll bet he's doing a little sweating as we speak.   

gbdub

April 20th, 2023 at 10:21 PM ^

Yes it’s indeed very creepy that these athletes finally get a real cut of the literal billions being made off their labor. How horrible.

It’s a shady Wild West right now, but as others have said, the NCAA had a chance to set up a more transparent, equitable system but chose to ride the “exploit free labor to line their pockets” gravy train until the literal Supreme Court had to tell them to cut that shit out. 

bronxblue

April 20th, 2023 at 6:15 PM ^

Yeah, I'm sure the money is high but ever year you hear these numbers thrown out and then when they actually have to talk about the income coming in it's a fraction of it.

I'm sure Dickinson's number is north of $1M per year but $2M would mean there's a whole lotta guys making a lot more.  And while Dickinson is a good college player I can't imagine he'd move the needle that much for KU compared to their usual roster.

scottygonzalez

April 20th, 2023 at 5:20 PM ^

That would be a very interesting point.  As part of their offer from the new school, the new school would be required to pay 25% of their offer to the school the athlete was leaving (on top of the new salary given to the athlete).  Then the old school got a kick-back from losing someone due to a stupid NIL issue.

BroadneckBlue21

April 20th, 2023 at 6:37 PM ^

‘Cuz fans, man. Some of us think players need to be loyal to their college peers and the older guys who yell at them on Twitter and Instagram about sucking. 

Maximizing his own value doesn’t make Hunter a dick. If he goes to Maryland, though, or anywhere in conference, he can eat a big one as far as rooting for him.

He’s lost out on any legacy if he leaves, no matter where he transfers, for me. He’s not a “brat” or a horrible person or wrong for what he’s doing for himself—but my loyalty is to the team. I actually thought he had a chance at making it pro, even if he went in 2nd or undrafted and proved himself.

But his portal move makes me wonder where that dawg in him went.

Tacopants

April 20th, 2023 at 8:02 PM ^

I think that even if it's just $2M over 2 years at age 22 that's life changing money and anyone on this board saying that they wouldn't do it is lying to their age-22 selves. These are the same people who would criticize the move if he were offered $40M or $400M

 

As for where that dawg in him went that's easy, I think he's been advised repeatedly, even by this fanbase, that he has next to 0 chance of sticking on an NBA roster because he lacks and likely cannot develop the athleticism to be worth investing in. If he continues to play basketball and put miles on his body it'll be for relatively low wages overseas. Look at Kofi Cockburn, i bet that guy wishes he had stayed for the NIL derby that's happening now instead of playing in the worst team in the Japan league.

thelomasbrowns

April 20th, 2023 at 5:21 PM ^

Just like Harbaugh had to reset to find guys who love football AND love Michigan, Juwan needs to find guys who are here for the right reasons.

whidbeywolverine

April 20th, 2023 at 5:29 PM ^

Great landing place for HD at KU.  They were missing a post up option on offense after McCormack graduated, so they get Dickinson for two years of one seeds in the NCAAs and a heck of a shot for another Natty.

oh, and the money sounds pretty niiice too!!

BleedThatBlue

April 20th, 2023 at 5:35 PM ^

UK fan as well here. FWIW, Hunter is having a three day visit at UK. They were a fairly big leader for him prior to this news. The idea was that if Oscar kept his name on in the draft, Hunter would come. Conversely, if he comes back, Hunter is out. 

BleedThatBlue

April 20th, 2023 at 10:14 PM ^

Surprisingly, a lot of them are wanting HD over Oscar. Blows my mind. HD would expand the offense, but to your point wouldn’t work with Cals offense. Most of the fans turn away from Oscar during his brilliance. Only thing that delusional base says currently that I somewhat agree with, is Cal needs to go. I’m slowly getting in that boat.