Michigan's newest two NBA draft picks beating some Buckeyes [Campredon]

NBA Draft Recap: Franz and Livers picked Comment Count

Alex.Drain August 3rd, 2021 at 11:19 AM

Less than a week after Michigan dominated the NHL Draft, the NBA Draft rolled around and presented the Wolverines with another opportunity to show out. Though the basketball team isn't oozing the pro talent of the hockey team (because what other college team of any sport does?), it was a solid showing for Juwan Howard's team. Franz Wagner was picked early in the first round, while Isaiah Livers went in the mid-second round, making Michigan one of just two B1G teams to have multiple NBA draft pick this year. That'll help sell the program to recruits. 

How do Wagner and Livers fit with their new teams? And what about Michigan players who didn't get drafted? Let's run through each and examine the futures of our departing Wolverines, as well as take stock of how other familiar names and rival programs fared at the NBA Draft: 

[AFTER THE JUMP: a few dudes got drafted, a few dudes didn't] 

 

Franz is sprinting to Orlando [Campredon]

Franz Wagner, 1st round, 8th overall - Orlando Magic

Franz was Michigan's first lottery pick since Stauskas back in 2014 and he became the 9th first rounder that Michigan has produced in the Beilein/Howard era, joining Burke, THJ, Stauskas, McGary, LeVert, DJ Wilson, Moe Wagner, and Jordan Poole. NBA scouts bought into what they saw from Franz this season, with the immense wingspan making many believe he can be a switchable defender in the best league in the world. His dominant defense for Michigan this past season and projectable size led the prospect evaluation, but his ability as a glue guy on offense also intrigued NBA scouts. Though Franz only shot 34.3% from three this past season, the higher free throw percentage enticed as a window into his still high shooting upside, and of course all Michigan fans know how smooth the stroke is. His basketball IQ and ability to play within a system that will have a primary ball-handler also intrigued the NBA community, and the combination of high upside on defense and tools on offense made him an easy lottery pick. 

I suppose it's worth discussing how Franz is the case of someone who really did help their draft stock by coming back to school. He was not considered a top tier prospect a year ago, and certainly no one had the lottery even in their mind if Wagner had declared for the draft in 2020. Instead, he returned to Michigan and improved considerably as a defender, particularly in his agility, and the improved shooting stroke caught the eye of NBA minds. Now, a year later, here we are and Franz went inside the top 10 picks, a pretty cool finish to his saga. Returning to college doesn't always have benefits for prospects. Some don't have all that much to gain from coming back and are just stuck in how the NBA evaluates them. For them, coming back simply delays the inevitable draft slot. But Franz had more to show if he could improve defensively and with his shooting. He bet on himself, improved in both areas, and now he's a high draft pick. 

As for the Magic, the team made it out of the draft with quite a haul, as they actually had two picks inside the top eight. At pick #5 they took Gonzaga standout PG Jalen Suggs, and then with pick #8 (which they owned from Chicago in the Nikola Vucevic trade), they tabbed Franz. The 2021 Magic were a really bad team, finishing with a record of 21-51, so Franz will join a rebuilding project in Orlando (to be fair, the Magic are much like the Buffalo Sabres in the tier of teams who have basically been in a perpetual rebuild for nearly a decade). The core of the Magic is a bit murky, with their last three first round picks (Cole Anthony, Chuma Okeke, and Mo Bamba) combining to average just 27.8 points per game this season. Jonathan Isaac, their 2017 first rounder, was starting to play a bit better in 2020 before an ACL injury caused him to miss the entirety of this season.

All of this is a way of saying that the Magic are not close to competing for much of anything and so if Franz can play well for Orlando, he could be a part of the nucleus of the new era in franchise history. Interestingly, he may not be the only Michigan product on the Magic: Iggy Brazdeikis played 8 games for the team last season, scoring 11 points per game, all at the tail-end of the season. The team initially signed him to a ten day contract, then re-upped him for a deal lasting for the remainder of the season. He's a free agent this summer, so who knows if Orlando brings him back, but they liked him enough to play him 29 minutes per night in the last couple weeks of the season, so we'll see. 

 

Prepare to photoshop this photo with a Pistons jersey [Campredon]

Isaiah Livers, 2nd round, 42nd overall - Detroit Pistons 

Michigan's other draft pick was Isaiah Livers, who went 42nd overall to the in-state Detroit Pistons. For those wondering whether John Beilein's involvement with the Pistons as their new Senior Player Development Advisor played a role in the team picking one of his former players, GM Troy Weaver indicated that the answer is "not really". In the post-draft press conference, Weaver said that the team had done plenty of scouting on Livers before Beilein was hired and already had him pretty high on their draft board. For the Pistons, what makes Livers appeal to them is also his greatest strength as a prospect: his shooting ability. I always like to say that if you can shoot three pointers at a high clip, there will always be room for you in the NBA. No one can attest to that better than another former Wolverine, Duncan Robinson, who is now a $90 M man

As an NBA prospect, DRob wasn't all that different from Livers, even down to the fact that both are 6'7". Both had shooting listed as their greatest strength, while concerns around athleticism-related defensive problems was their greatest weakness (the defensive concerns were far worse for DRob, hence why he wasn't drafted at all). NBA guys see Livers as a possible bench option if he can continue being a 40+% three point shooter, as he was for each of his final three seasons at Michigan. He's not going to be a primary scoring option and probably won't be much of a ball-handler at all in the NBA, but if he can keep draining three pointers on catch-and-shoot looks all over the court, there will probably be room for him on a bench, even if he'll struggle to guard higher end athletes. 

The Pistons drafted Livers specifically because they're looking to add shooting to the mix, and Weaver said as much in his press conference. That may also be why they tabbed Iowa's Luka Garza with their next second rounder (more on that later). With two young primary ball-handlers as franchise cornerstones in 2020 draft pick Killian Hayes and 2021 #1 overall pick Cade Cunningham, the team is looking to surround those playmakers with shooters, and Livers could be one of those options. The Pistons will be a young team next year mostly playing with house money as they see how much of an impact Cunningham can make in year one. It's hard to know how much Livers will get to play, if he's in the NBA at all (G-League could be an option), but given that he's already 23, one of the appeals of him as a prospect is that he's pretty NBA-ready. Or, as NBA-ready as he'll probably ever be. Rehabbing from his foot injury will be a primary focus for him, though, and it was a knock on his scouting report during the pre-draft process. If all goes well, he could play a few minutes per night as a wing shooting option on an exciting young team not far from where he played his college ball, but that's far from guaranteed. 

 

Mike Smith is now on an NBA Summer League contract [Campredon]

Chaundee Brown and Mike Smith get UDFA tryouts 

As expected, Mike Smith was not drafted, and Chaundee Brown also did not get picked in the second round. However, both received tryout offers that will give them a shot (albeit a slim one) at having a real North American pro basketball career. Smith was signed by the Milwaukee Bucks to play on their Summer League team, which takes place in Las Vegas from August 8-17. The Summer League is for young players/recently drafted guys and would be the first step for someone like Smith or Brown to begin to try and fight their way into the G-League. Brown's contract with the Los Angeles Lakers, an Exhibit 10 deal, is a bit more favorable, as it guarantees an invitation to training camp and has a much clearer pathway to the G-League. That's indicative of Brown being seen as a better pro prospect than Smith given his taller height and better athleticism. 

Not to rain on the parade, but it's not terribly likely either will stick in North American pro basketball long-term. They could, but the more likely option is that they both wind up in Europe or Australia, if they choose to continue playing outside of the US. That said, trying to forecast this stuff is not easy. I don't think anybody in the summer of 2018 thought that three years later Duncan Robinson would be one of the top free agents in the NBA but here we are. 

 

Both Hawkeyes in this photo were 2nd round picks [Campredon]

Other familiar names get picked

Michigan wasn't the only B1G team to see some players get picked. Ayo Dosunmu, consensus 1st team All-B1G guard, was picked 38th by the home state Chicago Bulls, the only player on 2021 B1G Champion Illinois to get drafted. Iowa saw two players get picked by NBA squads in the second round, with SG Joe Wieskamp going 41st to the Spurs and C Luka Garza going 52nd to the Pistons. It will definitely be quite a sight if Livers and Garza were to ever share the floor for the Pistons in the NBA. Nebraska's Dalano Banton went 46th to the Toronto Raptors, while Maryland's Aaron Wiggins went 55th to the OKC Tunder. OSU's Duane Washington Jr. went undrafted but signed a contract with the Indiana Pacers, while MSU's Aaron Henry slipped from a second round prospect to being undrafted, despite John Hollinger's best efforts to remind people he was on the board. Henry has signed with the Philadelphia 76ers. 

Outside of the conference, some other names from the past were tabbed. Florida State, who Michigan downed in the Sweet 16, saw three players get drafted, including Scottie Barnes surprisingly going #4 overall to the Raptors. Moses Moody and Jaden Springer, who you may remember Matt D talking about in recruiting updates past, went 14th and 28th, respectively. Speaking of ex-recruiting prospects, Josh Christopher went 24th to the Houston Rockets following a rather uninspiring collegiate career at Arizona State. The pro talent was still too much for the NBA to pass up. Isaiah Todd, who chose the G-League Ignite over coming to Michigan, went 31st overall to the reigning NBA Champion Milwaukee Bucks. If nothing else, it shows that the talent Juwan Howard is recruiting really is appealing to the NBA. 

Comments

Naked Bootlegger

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:35 AM ^

I'm so excited for Wagner and Livers.   May their NBA careers be long and fruitful.

Side note:  It's funny how quickly I forgot about both Josh Cristopher and Isaiah Todd.   Coach Howard picked up the pieces nicely after losing out on those two high profile recruits.

 

njvictor

August 3rd, 2021 at 2:44 PM ^

It's interesting to think about the alternate reality where Christopher and Todd were on the team in terms of the draft. I think Christopher likely goes higher in the draft than he did because Juwan reels him in a bit, gets him better shots, and he's a more efficient player. However, I think Todd probably falls in the draft or comes back for his sophomore year

AC1997

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:46 AM ^

Great recap Alex - nice content!  I think it might be nice to occasionally check in on our NBA alums this season since it will be fun to track Franz & Livers while also being a big make-or-break year for so many other guys (DJ, Moe, Iggy, etc.).  

A few thoughts on your post:

  • Great point about Franz improving his draft stock.  Hopefully Hunter can do the same this year.  I think examples like this are good to point out when they happen, especially as we enter the NIL era.  I think fringe picks might see a better path staying where they can make a little money with the hope of improving their first NBA contract.  
  • On the opposite end....Aaron Henry's stock falling opens some eyes.  I know he was a flawed prospect but not exactly a merit badge for Izzo's player development.
  • Disagree a bit with Livers being "as NBA ready as he'll get" since you just referenced Duncan as a comp.  Duncan improved a lot in the G-league before he became a rotation player and if I'm Livers I would be soaking up all the tips he can from him.
  • You mentioned Iggy's time last year on the Magic - he's also on their summer league roster.  You didn't mention that Moe was also on their team last year and while he's a free agent, they might consider bringing him back.
  • Ayo isn't a forward....he's a guard.  I know those designations don't really matter much and they get confusing in college but a guy who brings the ball up, who facilitates offense, who defends 2s, and who is 6'5" is a guard.  :) 
  • You're sadly probably right about Brown and Smith.....though I do think Brown is the type of guy who lasts in the G-league and puts up tons of shots waiting for that call up.  Maybe he makes friends with LeBron and gets his endorsement for an end-of-bench spot.  The Lakers will have to find warm bodies who are dirt cheap to fill up their bench.

OwenGoBlue

August 3rd, 2021 at 12:18 PM ^

Rooting for Chaundee but he’s going to face an uphill battle for a roster spot on the Lakers. Best chance to make a team will likely be elsewhere.  

Lakers just brought in Ariza, Bazemore and Ellington. They also signed Ayayi and Reaves to two-way deals so those players were prioritized over Chaundee. As usual they will be a destination for vets and buyout guys all year. 

Maison Bleue

August 3rd, 2021 at 2:01 PM ^

On the opposite end....Aaron Henry's stock falling opens some eyes.  I know he was a flawed prospect but not exactly a merit badge for Izzo's player development.

Internet rumors suggest some "red flags" popped up RE Aaron Henry. Which, is yet another indictment on Izzo's reputation. Although Henry was MSU's best player last year, he is still an undersized forward that shot <30% from three during the season.

I remain dumbfounded why 5* talent would want to play for a guy that 1. Has a rep for not developing that talent/getting that talent to stay longer than they should and 2. is a tiny, self-absorbed asshole, that yells at you when he doesn't get his way.

taistreetsmyhero

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:47 AM ^

Was hoping to see Franz go to the Pelicans, but with Lonzo leaving, they don't seem to be going anywhere. Biggest problem is Orlando won't ever be on national TV so I won't get to see Franz play much.

But, I am excited to watch the Pistons for the first time in years.

EastCoast Esq.

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:49 AM ^

"Interestingly, he may not be the only Michigan product on the Magic".....and then you mention IGGY!!???

HOW did you forget about the fact that Mo Wagner, Franz's BROTHER, is also on the Magic????

AC1997

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:59 AM ^

I'm pretty sure Moe is a free agent so it isn't a sure thing that he's back on the Magic....or even in the league for that matter.  I'm guessing he'll get signed as a third center by some team for one more ride....but his inability to play defense or avoid fouling is hanging over that next contract.

RAH

August 3rd, 2021 at 6:51 PM ^

I have to defend your original comment. Since the post said, "...he may not be the only Michigan product on the Magic" he is only mentioning possibilities. Although it is not likely, it seems that the possibility that he could be playing with his brother is the most noteworthy.

Teeba

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:53 AM ^

The surprise of the draft was Banton getting picked at all. He’s from Toronto, so maybe the Raptors get to write off his contract as a charitable deduction.

He started 22 of 27 games for Nebraska and made 24.7% of his 3s on 3 attempts per game. He was only a 41% shooter overall. He has wingspan and height. That’s it. This guy was drafted and Chaundee wasn’t. That’s unbelievable.

AC1997

August 3rd, 2021 at 11:57 AM ^

I agree with you 100%.....but you have to remember that the NBA targets athleticism, length, and potential more than just about anything else.  Banton is 6-9 and young.  Chaundee is 6-5 and old.  Teams think they can turn that youth, length, and athleticism into something productive.....and they know that most draft picks after about #20 don't really pan out anyway so there's low risk to them.

Hell, the same Raptors team picked Scottie "I can't shoot and don't bother trying" Barnes at #4 for much of the same reasons.  They passed over Suggs (despite dumping Lowry) my guess in part because Suggs doesn't have elite athleticism or length and is considered a little closer to his ceiling.  

AC1997

August 3rd, 2021 at 2:45 PM ^

Yeah, that's my bad there.  I knew he had only played one year at Nebraska and that there was some hype around him coming back next year.  Didn't realize he was a sit-out transfer who played a year at Western Kentucky.  Ooops....

I already thought it was a bad pick despite the idea of "length and athleticism" now I think it is a horrible pick.  He's like a poor man's Scottie Barnes on the same team .... and I'm on record thinking Barnes has huge bust potential.  

ak47

August 3rd, 2021 at 12:29 PM ^

Not that it matters but Todd is going to the wizards due to a trade, not the bucks.

I think you are a little too down on Brown's chances of sticking around in the G league. The lakers are in a really weird spot roster wise and have a real need for a guy that looks like a potential ceiling for Brown which is a guy who can shoot off the bench and guard multiple positions. It puts a lot of pressure on performing quickly but Brown could play his way into the G league and eventual 2 way contract this year and it wouldn't be surprising 

kehnonymous

August 3rd, 2021 at 1:24 PM ^

The Lakers will give Chaundee a look, and they could definitely use some youth and athleticism, but they're in win NOW mode so they're not going to prioritize giving Chaundee minutes to prove himself.  He'll have to dominate the G league or wherever they stash him to where they simply can't keep him there, but otherwise they'll let him marinate for a year or so and see what develops.

MGlobules

August 3rd, 2021 at 1:02 PM ^

Good stuff. Was hungering for some analysis of both Franz and Isaiah's prospects, now that they are safely in the fold. One thing I'd have liked to see you weigh in on: Are these good teams for the players to land on, in terms of sticking and developing their games? Obviously, the Warriors SOUNDED great for Franz. . . but maybe he's a cheap flight from home when he's hungering for some spaetzle, anyway. 

May try to get a glimpse of Franz at a Magic game when we go to my wife's family in Orlando one of these days. 

SanDiegoWolverine

August 3rd, 2021 at 1:48 PM ^

I appreciate the write write up as basketball is my first love. One request though. It seems there's a few pretty good questions on the board. I think engaging with thoughtful questions is a huge bonus and may give you ideas for future posts.

mwolverine1

August 3rd, 2021 at 2:00 PM ^

https://twitter.com/umichbball/status/1422613873446641664?s=20

Teske is also in the Orlando system as a member of the Lakeland G-League affiliate team. I'm very interested to see how Franz fits in in Orlando. The Magic have prioritized length in recent years which creates an interesting conundrum. Do Franz's attributes fail to stick out next to Dwayne Bacon, Jonathan Isaac, and Chuma Okeke? Or does the extra length on the floor have a multiplicative effect, perhaps creating a jungle of arms to contend with. Either way, Franz will likely get a chance to contribute early and show what he can do.

Also, I'll note the Pistons announced today that Livers won't be participating in summer league (presumably due to injury) so we will have to wait a little longer to see him in action. 

AlbanyBlue

August 3rd, 2021 at 2:10 PM ^

I love that Livers was picked up by the Pistons, and I hope he sticks.

But damn, that really underscores what "could have been" for Michigan in 2020-21 without his injury. Such bad luck :(

And thanks for the excellent writeup!

The Deer Hunter

August 3rd, 2021 at 3:11 PM ^

I like this write up, very well done. 

Just as much, I like Sparty and the Buck Nuts were shut the hell out. 

Also...LOL Toronto w/ Barnes @ 4?. Someone needs fired there. 

MaizeGoBlue

August 4th, 2021 at 9:21 AM ^

the ones not drafted or picked up should be allowed to return to college that is one of the stupid NCAA rules that I hope goes away upon the NCAA demise which hopefrully will be soon

CaliforniaNobody

August 4th, 2021 at 9:43 AM ^

Isaiah Todd really chose poorly taking the G league route. Obviously there's examples in this draft of it working as well, but if you're gonna show out in the G league you'll show out in college. But it's not guaranteed to work the other way around. 

Glennsta

August 6th, 2021 at 7:31 AM ^

I just hope the Pistons are committed to giving Livers a fair shot. I'd really like the guy to stick with Detroit.

He's not doing the summer league because he's still rehabbing the foot. When he does get available (@ October), others are going to be ahead of him and there's already going to be a rotation. I hope he comes out hot.