MGoPodcast 14.5: Joel Klatt Already Said This But
1 hour and 55 minutes
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1. Offense vs Iowa
starts at 1:00
An Iowa game but not one of those Iowa games. Better performance on offense than the score indicated. JJ only took one shot downfield and missed it by only by about a yard. Felt like Michigan could just get six yards in the A-gap any time they wanted – Iowa's tackles are a bit light. Blake Corum spent the offseason lifting buses. There are like 12 minutes before they actually start talking about the quarterback play! Soft underneath passes are how you approach this Iowa defense if you can run the ball. Zero interceptions against a defense that intercepts the ball a LOT. JJ has been coached to not get hit but has a lot of opportunities to get extra yardage upfield if he just goes for it. Is the goal still “just get the quarterback to week 12”? Donovan Edwards has now scored a rushing touchdown, receiving touchdown, and passing touchdown against Iowa (editor’s pop quiz: who was the last Michigan player to do this against a single team? Hint: it was in one game, not two). If teams are going to keep putting their defensive backs in the parking lot then Luke Schoonmaker is going to keep being the #1 target. Receivers are still fast. Other teams are afraid of them so they don’t get as many targets.
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2. Defense vs Iowa
starts at 35:50
Normally when you only give up 14 points to a real football team you feel pretty good. Here we feel… fine? A little concerning that the things Iowa got weren’t sporadic. Michigan’s defensive tackles are really good but not world eaters. Need more linebacker support but there’s still no news on Nikhai-Hill Green. Defensive line was up and down. There was pressure but Iowa didn’t let themselves get consumed by it until the desperation drive. Okie sacks Petras with a guy between him and Petras. When Upshaw is on the field it is only for one reason. Seth ALMOST patted his head and rubbed his belly in the Very Visual Podcast. Okie is developing nicely, what were all these other teams doing with him? He’s flashing and tracking to exceed expectations. What Iowa’s offense did in the first four games was unsustainably bad, this was probably them reverting to the mean.
3. Hot Takes, Special Teams, and Game Theory
starts at 59:50
Takes hotter than Iowa fans thinking about Brian Ferentz as the head coach of Iowa football (too hot?). Iowa punted a lot, Iowa fans cheered. Michigan’s special teams didn’t really have an eventful day, especially against Iowa. You want to fire Brian Ferentz?? Yeah well watch this FAKE KNEEL! Maybe Michigan going into a shell had something to do with the backwards pass fumble? Clipping penalty was a bad call. Hold on Benny was the right call.
4. Around the Big Ten With Jamie Mac
starts at 1:22:23
Wisconsin rushes for two yards... Against ILLINOIS. This was recorded before the Paul Chryst news. Wisconsin tends to hire from within the program but Lance Leipold (Kansas head coach) has Wisconsin ties. Minnesota was looking great this season but then got outplayed by Purdue. There is currently a six-way tie for first place in the Big Ten West, who possibly wins this divsion? Everyone has a fatal flaw. It might come down to Minnesota and Illinois (what a time to be alive). Maryland dominates Michigan State more than the score suggests. Michigan State looks bad BUT we all know what their Super Bowl is this year. They did have another goal line stand. They might not make a bowl. Are we getting to "Sean Clifford Falls Apart" season? Penn State Northwestern was ugly - it was a rain game, though. After five weeks we still don't know a lot about Penn State. Nineteen punts in Indiana Nebraska! Nebraska gets their first win over an FBS opponent in ten tries. CJ Stroud looked mortal against Rutgers. Teams are 1-8 after playing Nebraska - the Infection Theory of playing Nebraska (how do you tell if Indiana is negatively effected by playing Nebraska?).
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October 3rd, 2022 at 7:19 AM ^
Pretty funny that you bring up Jeff Hecklinski literally hours before he’s fired by Brady Hoke at SDSU. The guy was ridin’ with Brady since Ball State and still got canned.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:54 AM ^
Not to mention "I wonder how long until 'interim coach Jim Leonhard'" and Wisconsin is like DONE
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:26 PM ^
From an article re: Hecklinski termination:
Under Hecklinski, the Aztec ranked 97th, 104th and now 126th in total offense.
Yikes.
October 3rd, 2022 at 7:41 AM ^
I'll guess Steve Breaston was the one who ran, passed, and caught a TD, but if it were him, I would also guess that I'd recall it more clearly.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:27 AM ^
I’m fairly certain the answer is Vincent Smith in 2011 (Hoke’s first year) vs Minnesota when we shut them out.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:30 AM ^
So, looking it up is cheating, right? But I'd guess the last guy to rush, receive, and pass for a TD in a single game was ... Donovan Edwards. Remember that chef-kiss halfback pass (which, in my memory, was for a TD)?
Otherwise, I'd guess you'd have to go back to Tom Harmon to get all three in one game. Devin pro'lly got some receiving TDs against teams but I can't think of a game where there was a throwback TD for him while playing QB.
EDIT: ah, others got it right and I got it wrong. Edwards had a pass TD and a rush TD in the B1G championship game last year, but not a receiving TD.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:39 AM ^
My guess without looking it up was John Navarre vs Minnesota in the Friday night 2003 comeback at the Metrodome. Looked like a telephone pole running down the sidelines on that reception. Also likely threw one ... rushing TD is the least likely, though there could have been a QB sneak
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:44 PM ^
I was, at first, thinking Greg McMurty in the 80’s (he threw a touchdown bomb to Chris Calloway in 1988 against Indiana, and caught a bunch of TD’s…but I don’t think Bo ran reverses with the wide receivers. That didn’t really become a thing until Gary Moeller.
If you want to go waaaay back, Tom Harmon scored in every way possible against Ohio State in 1940.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:50 PM ^
Vincent Smith vs Minnesota. You have the highlights on your YouTube channel.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:55 PM ^
My guess was Khalid Hill but I now know I was wrong.
October 3rd, 2022 at 7:49 AM ^
I was thinking about this the other day: in the Big Ten West, what's the most noteworthy rivalry? Is it Wisconsin vs. Minnesota? I can't imagine Illinois vs. Northwestern. Maybe Iowa vs. Wisconsin? My mind is drawing a blank.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:16 AM ^
Probably Minnesota/Wisconsin, aka the Battle for Paul Bunyan's Axe. It's the most-played rivalry game in FBS.
Second place is either Iowa/Minnesota (Floyd of Rosedale) or Iowa/Wisconsin (Heartland Trophy -- since 2004).
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:02 AM ^
Iowa vs Offensive Innovation.
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:11 AM ^
Nebraska/Iowa is young but that's been a pretty good series. Long term I think it will mean something most years. To them.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:35 AM ^
The most well known rivalry is probably Minnesota and Wisconsin, but Minnesota and Iowa probably has deeper levels of hate.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:10 AM ^
Minnesota v. Nebraska for the $5 Broken Bits of Chair Trophy.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:42 AM ^
Probably Wisc/Minn, though Nebraska/Iowa is pretty entertaining to pair with leftover turkey
Illinois-Wisconsin could get really good if Bert sticks around
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:07 AM ^
Dangit!!! Posted too late to listen on the drive in... But certainly better later than never, so I'll happily listen on the way home.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:59 AM ^
It's usually in the feed at 2 a.m. (so all of the auto-downloads don't get in the way of the streamers) so if you check your feed Monday morning it should be there.
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:22 AM ^
I leave home around 6 and always check first thing Monday mornings, but it's been hit & miss this season, so far. Three have been ready, the last two not until later in the morning. If you're getting it up there by 2, then the problem is my iPhone updates. Whatever... Thanks for the response, though!
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:22 AM ^
To Seth's point, you can usually find it earlier on streaming platforms. I listen via Amazon music streaming, and the MGoPodcast is reliably there for my 6am commute. Thank you for making Monday morning drives to work bearable!
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:13 AM ^
I know that Vincent Smith had the run-pass-receive trifecta, but I'm pretty sure that was against Minnesota...
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:25 AM ^
From 2011:
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:42 AM ^
So not only in one game, but all in the first half!
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:50 PM ^
Shame on me for not remembering. I went to that game. Also got to go to a birthday tailgate at what is now known as the MGoPatio across the street from the stadium. Fun day.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:22 AM ^
Is it time to get rid of the B1G championship game? Really feels like a formality at this point, but I guess Indianapolis is a fun city, so there is that.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:34 AM ^
I've heard it said that when the B1G absorbs the rest of the meaningful programs in the Pac-12 we'll go back to East-West divisions and move the championship game to Pasadena.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:57 AM ^
Championship games were added to get another “big win” opportunity to make the BCS which is now largely moot…in such a lopsided conference alignment what’s the point of east west? Does it make sense that you get to play for a “championship” when missing 2/3 or 3/4 of the best teams in conference every year?
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:22 PM ^
Moreover, with a 12-team playoff, we're talking about teams playing up to four playoff games. How long do we want to make the season? Conference title games are an easy thing to trim down. (The TV networks won't like that idea though.)
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:24 AM ^
Or just re-align the divisions. The east-west thing was predicated on Wisconsin remaining solid (whoops) and Nebraska "coming back" (quadruple whoops).
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:54 AM ^
Indianapolis is fun? My man! You need to get out more…
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:30 PM ^
No truer words have ever been spoken.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:37 PM ^
Indy is a lot of fun...when your team is in the championship game.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:44 AM ^
Frost and Chryst were fired during your podcast that you then couldn't cover in real time.
There's a pattern here...
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:00 AM ^
We recorded from 11-2.
October 3rd, 2022 at 8:44 AM ^
Donovan Edwards has now scored a rushing touchdown, receiving touchdown, and passing touchdown against Iowa (editor’s pop quiz: who was the last Michigan player to do this against a single team? Hint: it was in one game, not two)
I haven't read the other comments to see if someone already answered, but the answer is Vincent Smith against Minnesota back in like 2011 I think. I believe he's the only UM player - at least in the modern era - to accomplish that feat in a single game.
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:04 AM ^
I thought it was a cold world in the NFL, there have been 5 Head Coaches canned from the college ranks and not a one from the NFL.
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:13 AM ^
its only week 4 in the NFL. Soon.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:00 AM ^
Yeah, gotta wait for bye weeks to start in the NFL.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:59 AM ^
It’s very cold, as in cold hard cash, Chryst gets $16 million for his buyout. That’s not a typo.
October 3rd, 2022 at 9:56 AM ^
Okie is taking a hot dump on your guys preseason expectations of a middling bench warmer. He has the best speed rush by a good margin on the team. I say he should get at least half the snaps against indiana.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:08 AM ^
Those preseason takes were the only reasonable takes you could have. He down transfered from Bama > Houston > UT Martin and he was a rotational player at UT Martin. He came in extremely late and had to learn the system/playbook. The people crowing about how they were right about him are just reveal themselves to be star watchers.
That all being said he does seem to have taken a huge jump and needs more time out there in passing situations but he has not yet shown he can be anything but a situational pass rusher.
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:29 AM ^
This. Okie has been a hugely pleasant surprise - but a surprise nonetheless, for very cogent reasons. Even situational success at this early point for him is a huge win.
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:17 PM ^
I'm not surprised that a DE has taken large leaps in pass rushing, given Ojabo blowing up last season. I am surprised that it is Okie, given the down-transferring mentioned upthread. Kudos to the coaching for doing a great job.
If Okie can just improve his run defense, the DL -- and the defense as a whole -- will improve greatly. Less Harrell snaps, less Upshaw snaps, more Okie snaps would be awesome.
October 3rd, 2022 at 11:01 AM ^
I’ll take a pass rusher any way I can get a pass rusher
October 3rd, 2022 at 12:14 PM ^
A few of us noticed that he was mostly injured during his last year playing and thought he might pop under the right circumstances (notably-our coaching and culture).
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:13 AM ^
Not looking at any other comments before posting my answer to BlueBarron's question; my guess would be Tom Harmon in that Ohio State game where the fans gave him an ovation?
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:17 AM ^
Wisconsin probably should try to go get Leipold who's a former Whitewater guy and is a more proven commodity as a head man by this point, and then you keep Leonhard maybe as a DC / Associate Head Coach to keep him happy in Madison. But maybe Wisconsin feels like they need to give Leonhard his shot as a head man or risk losing him to somewhere else. Definitely would be a roll of the dice there because who knows where the offense goes next. If it craters they'll just be a poor man's 2022 Iowa
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:58 AM ^
But is taking over this flaming pile of wreckage mid-stream really "giving him his shot"? Is there a magical QB in Wisconsin's room that is somehow going to make their offense functional?
October 3rd, 2022 at 10:51 AM ^
Brian,
Just wanted you know to that I appreciated the Michael Tracey Twitter call out.
That's it, I off to delete some holocaust tweets.
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