This is your team on Coach Prime

Submitted by Ezekiels Creatures on March 26th, 2023 at 2:33 PM

 

Deion Sanders is bringing wholesale change to Colorado:

 

https://twitter.com/CUBuffsFootball/status/1637559817513635841

 

He's making players earn jersey numbers:

 

https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1637843145055510528

 

His explanation why:

 

https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1638263973551169537

 

Reaction from players to Coach Prime:

 

https://twitter.com/CUBuffsFootball/status/1639360012643360777

 

Jackson St took an immediate jump up in wins in 3 years (actually 2 with 2020 having no games) with him as Head Coach, including going undefeated in the regular season in 2022. This is Colorado's schedule. How many wins you think they'll have?

 

https://twitter.com/PineNutPesto/status/1640058384128045057

 

Colorado went 1-11 in 2022, with all 11 loses being blow outs. How good is the Coach Prime effect? They can go 6-6 and get into Bowl Game?

 

 

Hotel Putingrad

March 26th, 2023 at 2:41 PM ^

I have no idea. Not terribly familiar with their revamped roster, but that schedule looks rough for them.

 

Still, I'll be watching that Nebraska game for sure to see how both new regimes look.

Michfan777

March 26th, 2023 at 2:50 PM ^

The most overhyped coaching hire of all time. He will make them better in the short term from the talent infusion his hype brings, but they’ll be 5-7 or 6-6 or so next season at best - which would be a nice jump. However, I think they don’t get much better than that in the seasons ahead, although USC/UCLA leaving will help.

I also think he leaves the team at the first sign of success to go to a bigger name school. If Norvell can’t keep the momentum from 2022 and they see regression in 2023, FSU will almost assuredly try and get Sanders.

Even then if FSU is good and not on the coaching market, I could see Sanders bolting for a good tier 2 or tier 1 coaching job. Mississippi State might even be in play if Arnett (The bandaid replacement for Leach) sucks this next season or two.

LDNfan

March 26th, 2023 at 3:50 PM ^

It doesn't...some just want him to fail because he's stepping outside the lines and drawing attention. That attention btw is attracting talent to a place that has a lot of disadvantages.  

It's not all that different from the attention JH drew/created when he came to AA (sleep overs, tree climbing, signing of the stars, satellite camps, etc). It was maximising the moment. Same for Prime.

 

rockydude

March 26th, 2023 at 4:21 PM ^

There’s plenty of people who have thought he’s a huge douche since the day he showed up to the Falcons. And he probably hasn’t done a lot to win them over. He’s just not everyone’s cup of tea. Nothing wrong with liking him, nothing wrong with disliking him. 

I'mTheStig

March 26th, 2023 at 5:10 PM ^

That attention btw is attracting talent to a place that has a lot of disadvantages.  

It's laughable that there are folks think CU has disadvantages.

Good academics.

Beautiful campus.

Lots to do.

Easiest winters where snow actually falls.

Lots of pretty girls from SoCal and Phoenix.

It should be an 18 year old's wet dream.

Rather it's criminal previous coaches couldn't leverage that in recruiting.  

Kevin13

March 26th, 2023 at 4:48 PM ^

To me the jury is still out on him as a coach. Yes he turned around Jackson State but year 2 and 3 he had a huge talent advantage over all the other teams he coached against. It will be interesting to see if he can coach with equal talent against better coaches also. Time will tell 

I'mTheStig

March 26th, 2023 at 5:14 PM ^

he had a huge talent advantage over all the other teams he coached against.

So you're saying Prime knows how to recruit.

Isn't that part of the game?

FFS these posts are getting laughable.

JSU was 4-8 and 5-5 the two seasons before Sanders got there. Sanders then went 4-3 and 11-2 WITHOUT his classes.

But yeah, turning a loser around, and over a pandemic, with the same players clearly equals Prime was born on third base and is a questionable coach.

core42

March 26th, 2023 at 3:02 PM ^

He will make them better but I don't know HOW MUCH better but 1-11 last year makes it an almost certainty.

I thought the Amazon documentary of last year's JSU season was good & gives some insight into how he handles a team.  Despite being the flashy, audacious PrimeTime from his youth he is a pretty old school type of coach  

BroadneckBlue21

March 26th, 2023 at 3:12 PM ^

As the kids these days say, his children are nepo babies. Sure, I bet he pushes them—but they still are getting easier opportunities due to being his kids.

Love Prime, one of my favorite players growing up, and I am happy he’s taking some weird off of Harbaugh. I hope he restores Colorado except when/if they play us. 

Don

March 26th, 2023 at 3:14 PM ^

Dan Hawkins arrived in Boulder with a more impressive coaching resume than Sanders and talked “this ain’t intramurals brother” tough stuff and still flopped on his face. The “no jersey numbers till you earn it” sounds like posturing PR gimmickry to me, but the proof will be in how they play. 

A Lot of Milk

March 26th, 2023 at 3:25 PM ^

Totally different environment today, though. With transfer portal, NIL, and free transfer rule, it doesn't take 5+ years to rebuild a dumpster fire. Not to mention, Hawkins trying to build a program in a conference with a GOOD Oklahoma team, a GOOD Texas (!) team, and a GOOD Nebraska (!!!!!) is a challenge. For Christ's sake, even Kansas and Missouri won 12 games in the same season in this era. This was a legit conference.

Expectations should be like 5 to 7 wins this season, while Washington and USC are making playoff pushes. But after this year, the conference opens up tremendously. USC and UCLA are gone, Washington will lose their Penix (is DeBoer staying put?), and unless you're a giant Dan Lanning fan, it doesn't seem like there will be an elite program left out west. 

A Lot of Milk

March 26th, 2023 at 3:17 PM ^

The only opinion I have on this is that no Pac 12 team is making the playoffs, again. 2024 is the year, though! (They SHOULD be able to eke out one of the 12 spots)

XM - Mt 1822

March 26th, 2023 at 3:21 PM ^

he'll get the player buy-in, which can be critically important.  but at some point he has to have the scheme and i don't think he's shown anywhere near the chops for that.  i don't wish him ill but i do think there is, as we say, 'more hat than cattle'.  

EDIT:  i see that powhound and i might be the same person.  poor guy. 

njvictor

March 26th, 2023 at 3:40 PM ^

At this point, Colorado is all artificial hype. Jackson St was good because Deion recruited a few 5 stars, a few 4 stars, and some 3 stars that were just better than the rest of the FCS. Colorado will be lucky to win 5 games this year with that schedule. It's going to be predictable and funny in a few years when all of the good PAC-12 teams inevitably leave the conference and people are tricked into think that Deion has found success in a newly barren PAC-12

DoubleB

March 26th, 2023 at 3:52 PM ^

The very definition of a "nothing to lose" hire. Has there been a worse Power 5 program over the past 20 years? 

He could easily flame out. He could go 7-6 and leave after a year. Which would put Colorado right back where they were 4 months ago.

My guess is he gets them to functionality (4-6 wins) and then who knows.

 

San Diego Mick

March 26th, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^

Nice to see in this era of entitlements where so many kids these days expect to be awarded or given things without really earning it, I  know that comment is going to ruffle a lot of feathers,  if it does, then you're the problem. 

Looking at that schedule, they might be able to win 4 to 6 games, if he ends up being a good coach.

I'mTheStig

March 26th, 2023 at 5:28 PM ^

I  know that comment is going to ruffle a lot of feathers

It already is.

Look at all the shit talking in here: questionable coach, had better players than his opponents at JSU, he's just hype, etc.

It's just not Sanders -- look at all walks of life and how the echo chamber can turn on its idols.  You see it in entertainment, in politics, in business, everywhere.

Echo chamber:  Coach prime comming.

Sanders:  God and you have to earn stuff.

Echo chamber:  He said WHAT?  Fuck that guy.  He's a bum and all hype.

Flying Dutchman

March 26th, 2023 at 4:03 PM ^

I would be really, really impressed if they get to 5-7 next year.  3 or 4 wins is realistic.  
 

I agree with the comment that he bolts at the first sign of success.   
 

It will be really interesting when Staee figures out how to run off Tuck and them brings in Prime. 

Blue Vet

March 26th, 2023 at 5:16 PM ^

The 3d motivator: I always wonder about the efficacy of trying to send a positive message with negative words.

Approximately he said "You'll have bad moments but only you can decide if you'll have a bad day." 

turtleboy

March 26th, 2023 at 7:15 PM ^

I think they'll go 6-6, in a couple years. It's going to take some time. Took both Chip and Harbaugh a couple seasons to turn around UCLA and Stanford.