Who is the most surprising UM bust in the NFL to you?

Submitted by drz1111 on February 27th, 2024 at 9:46 AM

Who are the guys you thought would be great at the next level, but busted? 

I'll start the bidding with Devin Bush.  I guess I knew it was possible that being undersized could be an issue for him, but his speed and tackling and football IQ were so insanely high in college that I never seriously considered that he'd spend his NFL career getting paved by 320lb guards who are also insane athletes.

stephenrjking

February 27th, 2024 at 3:46 PM ^

So, was Henne successful as a UM grad? Absolutely. I absolutely reject assertions that he was a bust in any way. He started for a couple of years, and like many, many others QBs, he did not stick as a top-15 starter. As a second-rounder, he was never expected to be a top 10 guy in the League.

Instead, he forged a loooong career as a backup, which is a *really* good job that requires diligence and preparedness and humility. Being a solid backup QB is an excellent role in the NFL and I'm delighted Michigan has had several guys make it at that level. A good backup QB is not a 16 (now 17) week starter, but he's a guy who can come in, run the offense, and win games for his team when the starter goes down. And Henne won games for a team that won a Super Bowl. 

But... most successful career of any UM graduate? Points 2 and 3 are great... but we're talking about the school and position that produced Tom Brady. 

Hail-Storm

February 27th, 2024 at 10:48 AM ^

I'll jump on the QB train.  I really liked Tom Brady, and defended him to Boston fans when he took over, talking about his 200 4th quarter yards against State in a comeback and his Orange bowl games (I was still way off, thinking he was an Eric Kramer type of QB).

But I really thought Drew Henson was going to be a top QB when he came back to the NFL.  Brady was the better QB when he was a Freshman and Sophmore, but his Junior year was amazing. He threw all over the field in a perfect match of top QBs when he played and won against Drew Breese. 

I think the time off to play baseball was too much, but he looked like he could have been one of the greats.  Instead we just have Brady (THE great)

Qmatic

February 27th, 2024 at 10:51 AM ^

I'm not sure I would trade many careers for the one of Chad Henne. After losing the job in Miami he was able for over a decade to just be "the guy trusted to come in if there is an emergency, but never good enough that the fans will want to bench the starter for." His body took way less hits than most players with that longevity and he is set for life at 40 with a ring on both fingers. Sign me up for that!

PopeLando

February 27th, 2024 at 12:21 PM ^

Whenever Chad Henne’s pro career is mentioned, I am contractually obligated to remind people of Monday Night Football, Dolphins vs Patriots, September 12 2011.

Brady and Henne combined for over 900 passing yards, Henne RUSHED for 60 yards, and led their teams to 1110 combined total yards, 52 first downs, and 3 different hundred yard receivers.

It was a glorious day for offense in a Michigan Shootout. Henne was already “mid career”, people were already asking when Brady was going to retire. Since that day, something like 7 combined Super Bowl rings between those two QBs.

drz1111

February 27th, 2024 at 10:03 AM ^

I guess this inverse of this is who is the most surprising hit who no one thought would amount to much, and you have to stipulate at the start of that conversation that the answer is obviously Tom Brady Q.E.D.,

So non-Tom Brady division, I'd vote for Mike Onwenu, who is basically an average tackle and one of the top 5-10 guards in the NFL, and that's just fucking stunning because he was a good starter at Michigan but I don't think anyone ever thought of him as a star....

DennisFranklinDaMan

February 27th, 2024 at 12:57 PM ^

I'd say Chris Calloway. He was definitely a good receiver at Michigan, but never the primary receiver on the team, and given how many Michigan receivers flamed out in The League, his success there stunned me. By the time he left the Giants he was their third-leading receiver in history and had led the team in receptions four years in a row. 11 year NFL career. 

Qmatic

February 27th, 2024 at 10:55 AM ^

Just imagine Henry on the 2016 DL. Our "weak link" in the two deep was Godin at DT. Had we had Henry our 2-deep would have been:

Wormley-Glasgow-Henry-Charlton

Gary-Hurst-Mone-Winovich

I do have a lot of respect for Henry though. In the summer of 2017 I was at the 12 mile Walmart in Warren (anyone who has been there knows it can be a quite...eccentric place even for Walmart standards). Henry was there with a group of around 20 teenage kids and another 10 younger special needs kids and he was having them fill up shopping carts for school shopping. He wasn't there with any PR, wasn't wearing anything Ravens; just had a Michigan hoodie on and was helping the kids make sure they had everything they needed. I then saw him walk up to the cash register and hand the manager standing there his card. I spoke with him briefly. Real jovial guy.

drjaws

February 27th, 2024 at 10:05 AM ^

Bush tore his ACL week 6 of his second season and never quite looked the same. Had a phenomenal rookie campaign so no sure I’d consider him a bust.

16 games, 109 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 4 fumble recoveries, 2 INTs

Also, depends on what you call a bust in the NFL. Like, never really played? Or wasn’t a star?

Chris Perry maybe? Mike Hart didn’t do much in the NFL. Given his place in UM record books, I’d have expected Marquise Walker to do SOMETHING in the NFL ….

drz1111

February 27th, 2024 at 10:21 AM ^

To me "bust" is all relative.  Like Mike Hart, I never thought he was going to have a career in the NFL, he was just too slow.  Some guys you can tell are great college players who don't have the talent / skills to star in the NFL which is a pretty different game. Denard's like that too.

But there are some guys where you're like, yeah, that's an NFL star right there and then they're not that good and its a total shock.   Jabrill Peppers was headed that way, but he's figured it out and he's a top safety now, which is awesome.  

dragonchild

February 27th, 2024 at 11:59 AM ^

That was his rookie season FFS.  He made over 100 tackles and Defensive PoW (edit: that’s week not year) as a rookie linebacker.

No one here agrees with you.  Which is fine, we all make mistakes.  But doubling down on a mistake is a very bad life habit.

Just take the L and move on.  You're going to get judged ten times as hard for digging in than for just admitting you forgot he got hurt.

drz1111

February 27th, 2024 at 2:58 PM ^

But that's what makes it interesting.  A bunch of homers making excuses for their guy is not interesting; understanding what we were missing that made Bush's skillset not NFL-suitable is way more interesting.   The ACL injury is a flimsy excuse - it's generally not a career altering injury now without other damage (RIP Grant Newsome's leg). 

RobGoBlue

February 27th, 2024 at 10:08 AM ^

No question, Aidan Hutchinson. 

It's funny because I see this dude on the Lions who's built like him, has a lot of his traits, and seems to know Aidan's family. That guy is turning into one of the more well-rounded defensive ends in football.

But all my OSU friends tell me Aidan was a wasted pick, so I'll go with him.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

February 27th, 2024 at 10:11 AM ^

Braylon was super disappointing to me. Alan Branch didn't do much. I think he was okay in NE? but dont recall him doing a ton.

I'll add the flip. Mason Cole is still in the NFL. I would never have thought that.. he was just cut, but he'll get picked up and he did get a good contract last year.

I sometimes hear names of UM guys who I'm shocked have lasted so long or even excelled. Metellus being another.

BlueAggie

February 27th, 2024 at 10:24 AM ^

Branch made like $30MM in his career and won two Super Bowls. I think the scheme he played in depressed his counting stats and made him less likely to make ProBowls, but he had an outstanding career.

Edit: a quick google search on average career earnings by draft pick didn't turn up too much useful data, but playing 11 years as a 2nd round pick puts you comfortably in the top 10% for career longevity.

TeslaRedVictorBlue

February 27th, 2024 at 12:09 PM ^

yeah thats fair. i didnt really think about the word bust... but more.. surprised the didnt excel, so to speak... expectations (personal) vs. outcome.

11 years, short of crappy QBs that recycle forever, is a very good career.

Dunno why he sticks out to me. Just have that shot of him walking away from the dead PSU QB int he background image in my head. haha

There have been others for sure.

FrankMurphy

February 27th, 2024 at 10:13 AM ^

For me it would be Tyrone Wheatley. Don't get me wrong; 5,000 career rushing yards is nothing to scoff at, but he was a mid-first round draft pick. I thought he had a chance to become one of the league's most dominant RBs.

FrankMurphy

February 27th, 2024 at 4:28 PM ^

I don't think he ever suffered the kind of injury that would have had a permanent impact on his speed or explosiveness (like an ACL tear). He pulled his hamstring and had a couple of ankle sprains, I think. IIRC, during his time with the Giants he had some issues with the coaches and in the locker room stemming from a contract holdout that kept him out of training camp. That isolated him from the team a bit. He seems to have been a case of starting an NFL career out on the wrong foot and never really getting back on track.

BursleyHall82

February 27th, 2024 at 10:18 AM ^

Drew Henson. I know he screwed up his career by trying baseball first, but once he committed to football, I still thought he was going to make it.

He's still the most recent person to have played in both the NFL and MLB, so at least he's the answer to a good trivia question.